Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as Moshiach ben Ephrayim?

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Should Israel crown Donald J. Trump as their constitutional monarch?

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  3. Well...... he would probably do that too for one shekel per year and he will do a lot for them...

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  4. Yes... recovering from the economic aspects of COVID 19 makes doing this worthwhile...

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  5. No.... Rabbi Alon Anava would be better.....

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  6. No... there is somebody else!

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  7. other... please explain in a reply....

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read "Mila 18" by Leon Uris back when I was about seventeen so
    I tend to look at The Nuremburg Codes a little differently than somebody
    who has not read that book of Historical Fiction that is based on the Warsaw Ghetto uprising
    of 1943......

    https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about/combat-resistance/warsaw-ghetto.html






    Nuremberg Code - Ethics of experimentation



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    I really do not care one little bit what you have read.

    The point here is that YOU are spewing pure hate and you have no excuse.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Were you aware that Lucky Luciano may have had an even greater role?

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/operation-husky-lucky-luciano

    And one reason that Meyer Lansky rose so high in the mob despite being Jewish rather than Italian was that he was a numbers/memory genius. One of his favorite recreations was adding up impossibly large columns of numbers with no paper and pencil to help. He kept all the important (and incriminating) records of mob finances in his head.
     
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    Thank you immensely for this article..... no... I knew very little about this....
    so I put this link where I can find it again quickly.

    Meyer Lansky and stopping German SS spies in America????

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-ss-spies-in-america.593762/#post-1073041620
     
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    You are REALLY in need of coming around to reality.

    We take HUGE amounts of action without explicit consent of the affected persons.

    For example, the US government allows the spraying of insecticides against mosquitoes from aircraft and the addition of larvicides to water including in populated areas.

    All these actions are essentially experimental.

    https://www.epa.gov/mosquitocontrol/joint-statement-mosquito-control-united-states
     
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    That is an interesting comment.....
    IF you are correct that I am spewing "HATE".. THEN there is a tendency that this could be my own self hate
    manifesting toward somebody else..........????????

    My last name Tate is a name associated with the English aristocracy to some degree at least......
    most commoners don't end up with collections of art so.....

    since my mom's ancestors were from southern Ireland......
    perhaps some variation of self hatred may be a part of what is wrong with me???????




    Were there white slaves from Ireland?


    I was listening to the Irish songs of Rebellion by the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem since I was five years old so.......





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    I've suggested you stop the hate - not redirect it to yourself.
     
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    I had a really, really, really, really, really weird experience back around late 1990 or late in 1991.....
    it was somewhere between November to late December..... that much I am pretty sure of.....

    ..... it was a little bit like an out of the body experience....
    or perhaps an open vision...... I really don't know for sure what it was.......

    I met a met a being who looked like the proverbial Pan and he asked me.....
    "What Doest thou here Elijah?" ..... I looked to the right and saw darkness.... I looked left and saw darkness.........
    then I clued that he meant me.........

    and I have been on something of a guilt trip ever since......???????


    Could the prophet Elijah have altered history if he had NOT........






     
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    I think that it is very, very interesting that Prophet Kim Clement called President Trump "DAVID" on quite a number of occasions!


    https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/ezek/37?lang=eng

    19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

    20 ¶ And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

    21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

    22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

    23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.




    24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

    25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.



    If somehow President Donald J. Trump's past lives could be known.... would he be the reincarnation of King David assuming the Gilgul Cycle of Judaism?




    https://altcensored.com/watch?v=14EXuGBLb68


    Rabbi Alon Anava : Is Gilgul Neshamot (Reincarnation of Souls) true?




    Dr. Ian Stevenson’s Reincarnation Research
    BY KEVIN WILLIAMSPOSTED ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2019
     
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    He would be the reincarnation of Lot's wife.
     
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    I have to admit that the evidence both from past life regression under hypnosis as well as the Dr. Ian Stevenson research as well as what near death experiencers saw about reincarnation...... somewhat scared me!

    Your theory does actually have some validity.... but if true it would mean that he is learning and attaining a higher level of consciousness in this lifetime.

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

    For the record.... I think of President Trump as even more like King Nebuchadnezzar than like King Cyrus in many important ways, and I think that his trusting Dr. Tony Fauci ended up setting up the Covid 19 vaccines was something every bit as dangerous as the massive idol set up by King Nebuchadnezzar that Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah refused to bow before.


    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/dan/3?lang=eng

     
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    Yes.. but the seriousness will not be so easy to understand.
    I do get updates from her.....
    now I finally have something to send to her that that could be perceived as having Artistic Value and Educational Value and Diplomatic Value and yes.... potential Economic Value.





    Prophet Robin Bullock is one of the deepest thinkers that I have
    ever listened to in my sixty two years!
     
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    President Putin can be compared to Hitler in many ways..... but he can be led to a genuine fear of HaShem and could repent and could leave a blessing in Ukraine.....
    .... and / or even in Israel?????


    ... "Gird yourselves, and lament, ye priests: howl, ye ministers of the altar: come, lie all night in sackcloth, ye ministers of my God: for the meat offering and the drink offering is withholden from the house of your God." ..... ........... .......... " Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning: And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: for he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil. Who knoweth if he will return and repent, and leave a blessing behind him; even a meat offering and a drink offering unto the LORD your God?" (Joel 1:13, 2:12-14).....

    Will the war in the Ukraine lead to the exposure of Hunter Biden and then....

     
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    ^^^Hunter who??
     
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    I may be wrong... but I have the impression that some very powerful and extremely crafty people are passing a script to P. M. Justin Trudeau and
    Biden........ and those people seem to have control over much of BigMedia.......

    apparently President Ronald Reagan ran into a conflict with similar people back in the nineteen eighties while he campaigned for President.....



    Does what happened to President Ronald Reagan explain events since 2015?





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    3. Maybe??????? That is scary though and puts a whole new spin on modern USA history!!!!
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    Here is the thing Dennis, to believe that Donald Trump is not corrupt to the core, given his life, his businesses, his upbringing, his actions would be just being willfully blind. Is Joe Biden or Trudeau in the same corrupt league with Trump, hell no. Trump has no bottom, no low ceiling. They, Trudeau & Biden, at the very least, care about what people know and think about said corruption.
     
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    Consequences indeed.

    Trump propped up Putin, and still does.

    And, he assaulted Ukraine by using the power of the USA and a hold on our military support of Ukraine to corrupt it's leadership in support of his own election!

    Then, we got the 2020 election, with Trump's full scale assault on our democracy, culminating in Jan 6 insurgency.
     
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    Good points but....
    I believe that President Donald J. Trump has a positive form of PRIDE that drives him to want to play around in the same league with President Lincoln and J.F.K.
    ....... and this pride of his could turn out to make him America's Greatest President even beyond Lincoln, J.F.K and President Reagan........
    the opportunity is his........
    but yes he will face many difficult choices and he will have to confront his own darkness within himself.......
    ... Since 1990 I have been shown a lot about my own darkness within myself and I do not feel superior to any fallen human or fallen angel or fallen Watcher or fallen King of the Watchers such as "Azazel".... whoever Azazel actually is???????


    Putin... like the Apostle Paul has off the scale potential to become a force for good if he will sincerely repent and change his ways......
    although things look terrible at this moment... this whole mess can be turned around dramatically........ and fast......

    Closer ties between Russia, the USA and Canada.




    www.sordrescue.com/

    https://sordrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/10-19-16_full_circle.pdf



     
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    You're right about Trump being proud. He's constantly bragging on himself in outrageous exaggerations.

    But, there is NO comparison between Trump and those you claim as being worthy of emulating.

    Trump is a narcissistic racist, as claimed even by high US officials in his own administration - people in his own party that he himself chose.

    Plus, his long support for Putin as Putin worked for Trump's election and the fact that TWO of those in charge of Trump's election were unregistered foreign agents should be seriously concerning to every American - and every Canadian, too.
     
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    Pride or false pride?
    Regardless, pride is one of the seven deadly sins.
     
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    You are mistaken. Trump is vain, not proud. There is a difference.

    Trump wants to be remembered for doing good while actually serving only himself.

    But the true danger in him is not that he is evil. Our society can cope with criminals. They can be trusted to act in ways that will benefit themselves even if they harm others. Trump is dangerous because he is stupid. Stupid people make decisions that harm others without benefit to themselves. As such, they are unpredictable.

    He is a moral and intellectual failure. Given that he cheated on all of his wives, I think he has proven he is an emotional failure as well.
     
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    Three years from now we will know whether or not this guy Mark Taylor received a valid message or not.

    I think that he was given this from an excellent source.

    https://sordrescue.com/

    https://sordrescue.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/04-28-11_commander_in_chief.pdf

    This guy has a new prediction... I had not read this one before.

    We are living in a fascinating time period indeed!
     
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    You are of course free to believe what you will, but the Good Book warns about false prophets.
    When a man tells me he has spoken with God, I look for the men with the butterfly nets. If they're not around, I keep my hand on my wallet.Either way, if God wanted me to get a message, He could deliver it to me Himself. He needs no intermediary. I don't mean to sound arrogant or self-important, I see God at work in the world every day and am moved.

    God does not need anyone to proselytize or prophesize. All spiritual paths lead to Him. There is no escape from Him. He will redeem all.
     
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    Pay attention: Mark Taylor has products he is trying to sell. He sounds like a man who has lost his grip on reality. He has a prayer for protection from radar, for instance. The theme of his movie comes from dominion theology, the idea that the world must become Christian for the Second Coming to occur. It was produced in part by the theatrical dept. of Liberty University (founded by Jerry Fallwell). It is viewed by many critics, Christians, and even Liberty Univ. students as political propaganda. It depicts Christian Nationalism. If I had to guess, this man is either trying to defraud the public, push a political agenda, is stark staring mad or some combination of the forgoing.

    He is affiliated with the Biblical Law Center, which for some reason is linked under 501c3 information on SORD's website without any further info. The guy running the show there is Greg A. Dixon. Rev. Dixon apparently inherited his pulpit from his father. That church apparently owed the IRS $6M US in back taxes and Social security payments for its employees. The Dixon and his right wing militia cronies held out from November 2000 to February 2001, defying federal marshals who tried to seize the building. Christ Himself said to render unto Caesar that which was Caesar's. It seems to me that while he may preach about holiness, his actions indicate otherwise. My sources for this paragraph were the SORD website and Greg J. Dixon's obituary in the Indystar newspaper.

    Edits for clarity.
     
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    On the other hand IF Biden is soon indicted or impeached....
    and if arrest after arrest after arrest of the people who went to Epstein Island takes place.....
    then Mr. Mark Taylor deserves credit for predicting events that I could never have predicted in spite of the fact that I do read and listen to a lot of information related to all of these events.....




    I do agree with you that Eventual Universal Salvation is being worked out here on this earth......
    but Messiah Yeshua - Jesus regards some humans as a part of His Bride... which is His Army.... His City...... and these people are scheduled to be elevated in power whereas those who used lies to dominate others for centuries and millennia are in a lot of trouble at this time............. they are scared for good reason....

    https://near-death.com/christian-andreason-nde/

    But.... the Bride of Messiah Yeshua Jesus is terribly messed up... that is what Rick Joyner was shown back in 1994 or 1995.....


    https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/414170858



    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html


     
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