Should Old Traditions Be Forgot - - For PC?

Me too. In a civilized society, we (the society) should not tolerate the belittling of people for simply being who or what they are. And yes, I extend that to people who have put themselves in the public eye. You can disagree with their actions or words, but personal attacks are beneath a civil society.

 

Primarily atheists opposed the Christmas displays in Palisades park and were successful in court, for good reason. The statue of Saint Monica is a religious symbol in a public park so I expect some day it will be removed like crosses have been taken out of other public lands. The Christmas displays meant that any other religious group could put up unattended symbols and Santa Monica did not want to go through that. Even the official flag of Los Angeles county removed the cross but allowed an image of mission San Gabriel. I wonder how Christians would react to Hindu/ Muslim/ Confucius, etc statues in American public parks?

 

This is a Christian country. Removing Christmas displays from public parks is just another sign of the triumph of the establishment of a new religion, secular humanism, before which everyone must bow.

Islam forbids the depiction of human beings in art, so the idea of a "Muslim statue" is an oxymoron.

 

How about
His Nation / State was Virginia to which he felt more loyalty than the Federal gov't
It was most common before The War Between The States and although Lee personally
did not agree with his State leaving the Union, he felt loyalty to his State of Virginia.
Before the war, we were "these United States of America". After the war, "these" became "the". The United States of America.


Robert E. Lee was an honorable man.
His statues should not have been removed however a place should have
been provided for an alternative view.
His stature says something about the times and the people who commissioned its' creation & placement.
It is history and should not be erased.
Those statues represented an style of art not created today.


Moi

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And Judaism doesn't have much imagery either. But Monica is a somewhat obscure saint since she was the mother of another saint/ theologian [Augustine]. Non-Catholics may not be interested. San Francisco does have a large statue of St Francis near the Wharf so maybe atheists are just being tolerant.

 

Lee was never imprisoned, fined, tried in any way, convicted of anything, and it took some time, but his citizenship rights were fully restored:

https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/piece-lee

So as a matter of irrefutable legal fact, Lee was indeed "given a pass" by the only authority that matters in this case, the United States government. R.E. Lee is not nearly the flawless hero-martyr depicted in lots of history that is unduly favorable to him, but dismissing him as just a traitor reveals awareness the depth of a mud puddle.

 

Public School Christmas shows.

I am Jewish. I was raised assimilationist with no religion and bacon too.
I certainly knew Jewish kids at public school in the fifties and sixties who
were observant.
But, I cannot remember any problem with the annual Christmas Show
and every class got on stage and sang some appropriate song.

Why can't we get along the same.​

There is a majority culture in A culture based on "Christian values".
And I see no religious angle to Santa Claus or the Christmas Tree.
was founded on FREEDOM including religious tolerance.
But, the values of Christianity were certainly involved.
Values not shared by Islam.
FDR created the Judeo Christian system of values. Not just Christian.

Today too many seem to be searching for something, anything to be offended by.
America was better, stronger before when we did share more common values
no matter the religious origin.
Statues of saints is not about honoring killers.

The correct answer is "No".
Should Old Traditions Be Forgot - - - For PC. - No!



Moi
Truth, Justice and the American Way.
Written by a Jewish guy.

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23AndMe had me near totally Ashkenazi and some unassigned European.
Now they tell me I am 0.1% Siberian. Yakhut.
I don't know how that got into the wood pile.
They use a genetic standard of circa 1500 AD before international travel
to assign "nationalities".

 

Yep, you're right. History is written by the winners.

 

Because it attempts to kill free speech.

 

Somehow you never see the various grievance/identity fanatics howling to have Geronimo monuments, statues and memorabilia torn down and destroyed based on his waging war on the U.S. And his side of that conflict didn't even have hundreds of thousands of citizens wanting to remember and memorialize their heritage and fallen family members afterward.

That's of course different, though

Have posted it before, will post it again, if all monuments of persons, flags, paintings, etc. of anyone or any country with a history of abusing slavery were removed, literally every single monument in the world would need to be destroyed.

 

Times have changed .
It's a different world now- decreasing population of previous majority can't assure assumption of certain values.
History isn't being erased because of the removal of statues.

 

I like it. Superman is Jewish in the same way.

 

It's a different world now because of the far left trying to make the previous majority into a minority and trying to overturn and destroy those previously shared values. Removal of statues absolutely is an attempt to rewrite history to suit the feelings of the far left.

 

History is being erased.
The statue.
Those who funded the statue is history too.

 

Just because something is old, doesn't automatically mean it's good or should be kept.

 

The reason you want to conserve things is not because "they're old", but because they're far, far superior to the people who want to change them.

 

Isn't that an assumption?

 

What has Trump has said to gay people that’s so terrible? Did he tell them right before he was elected they’re not allowed to marry like 2 other prominent candidates?

 

so its ok to 'erase' all things bad, got it... time to do away with every prisoner by execution, tear down the prisons because they represent bad behaviour... destroy all presidents and their monuments because they pardoned bad hombres'... destroy all cars because they're reminders of death and pollution...

progs/libs are truly mindless while being absolutely clueless about life...

 

No.





It's an observation.

 

Nice rage fantasy. I concur that "mindless" and "clueless" are two adjectives that readily come to mind.