SIG Sauer leaves bidding - Germany’s next Army Rifle cannot be American

Well its the fate evry winner has. People who are jealous will always throw dirt.

 

Will any of these guns be any better, more ergonomic, more reliable, more accurate, that the standard AR/M-4/M-16 rifle? I doubt it.

Will any of these guns have a higher "hit probability?" I doubt it.

 

Any german gun is better than yours. There is a reason why we export more weapons than you do. The quality of german weapons is outstanding.

 

Yes I know what it means and the context in which it was used. Our country was attacked in 1812 by the British army. The purpose was to defeat the U.S. and force it back into subservience to the crown. The white house was even burned to the ground. The war ended with the defeat of the British army in Louisiana by an American army led by Andrew Jackson who went on to become president.

In the 1860's we had brutal and bloody civil war. There were more Americans killed in it that war than in any other conflict in which we were involved. We've had war in our country.

Get off your high horse and try to bring your arrogance under control.

 

The british did not erase the cities, cut of children heads and shot them with catapults at your soldiers. You dont know such a war. We do.

That you mention laughable conflicts like your war for independence with our war against the mongol invasion or the 30 year war just shows how ignorant you are.

Tell me an instance when the british army killed evry single person in a city like what happened to the city of Magdeburg. I give you a hint, the city of Magdeburg alone had more death than your civil war in your entire ****ing nation. 1/3 of the german people died during the 30 year war in the 16th century.

 

I've only had my old HK 91 for decades and it's never malfunctioned except with a bad surplus magazine. My HK USP has only failed to fire with a bad round once. But my two guns are not enough to judge all German guns.

 

@Sobo
I don't really see Greece as doing what Germans have asked, I think the reverse is more true.
Despite Germans public will to the opposite, they lent Greece more money. Printed euro bonds to bail out Greece against German will and so on.

I don't think they do as you say or follow your lead. I think they take, your money, give you the finger, and then you give them more.
And why? Because you seek to lead, and with no stick available to you, all you can do is set example and hand out carrot after carrot to unwilling donkey after unwilling donkey.

And this spirit, the new German spirit, leads me to admire your country greatly, while your spirit the old German spirit, I feel sympathy for but ultimately, it's your doom. Self destructive.
Dumb. Real dumb.

 

Greece sold us all their airports and harbors. Greece cut their pensioners by 40% in 3 years. Greece cut its entire welfare system down. You dont know what hardships Greece had to endure. Did you visit Greece recently? That country is on the absolute floor. They lost evrything. When greece did not want to follow anymore in 2015, Germany cut it off, their people were starving imfront closed banks. It took 2 weekw until greece fullfilled evry german demand.

 

I haven't visited Greece recently, but then I have visited Greece before anyone would lend to them.
They had nothing then either.

Grats on your purchases. They will nationalise them back when you stop paying. Nothing you can do about that. Nothing at all.

 

They cant. We own their military. Entire greece has become a german hobby. Their leftist prime minister is forced by the german financial minister to implement capitalist liberal politics and its enforced by german officers.

 

Many Germanic peoples entered western Europe and Roman protection to get away from Attila. The Roman Flavius Aetius requested an alliance with Theodoric to fight Attila. Their combined army defeated him. Unfortunately, after the body of Theodoric was discovered, Aetius talked Thorismund out of attacking Attila's camp. That came back to bite the Romans the following year. The point being it wasn't just Germanic armies who defeated Attila.

 

Going by my own gun collection...
The poor quality and design of American weapons is surpassed only by the poor quality and design of German weapons.

Russian FTW.

 

Incorrect. They own their military. And they own all the military hardware you made for them, but they haven't yet paid for also.
Guess what, they aren't going to pay for it either.

What are you going to do about it?
Nothing.
Pay them more tribute.

 

Is this the tribute we pay them while starving their pensioners? Their mothers and fathers





While their finance minister is dressed like a beggar when he comes to Brussels to say they accept all German demands



I find it amusing you talk about money we paid. I guess you have not realized the scheme yet.

Germany paid not a single cent. We give guarantees. And we get payments from Greece for that. Germany has not paid a single cent. Greece sinks down more and more into poverty and in our grip.

Meanwhile this austerity functions as double edged sword. The more greece sinks into ****, the more instable is the world economy. Since Germany is the economic powerhouse, investors flee to Germany, which creates the funny situation that we have state bonds with negative interest rates. German debt gets smaller and smaller, Our nation doesnt pay interests anymore because investors pay us money so we accept it.

One of the main reasons we are the only industrial powerhouse that makes no debt but runs on a gigantic budget surplus.

The last thing Germany wants is a stable and prosperous greece and austerity makes sure they never will recover. Its far more profitable for us to hold them in their slave state.

As for Greece, their arch enemy is Turkey. A country we sell alot of tanks and submarines to. Keep both sides busy.

Germany is very good in playing this game. We are the nation that sold Saddam his poison gas and we sold his enemy Iran gas masks.

So with all respect, the Greeks lost their chance to stand up when we kicked their grandmothers on the ground and spit on them to make a point.

 

It's entirely relevant. They're going to take you down with them.

 

Guess we are lucky then that we are the most popular nation on the planet

http://fortune.com/2016/01/20/germany-best-country-usnews/

 

All the while writing on that German made computer on the German invented internet. Wait, there are no German made/designed PC's or a German made internet.

 

Had I my druthers they'd have had to buy all their military from the US exclusively and perpetually from 1945

And that would be in addition to the Morgenthau Plan. I realize Versailles was a little harsh but NOTHING justifies Naziism. Read Hitler's Willing Executioners, they got off WAAY too easy

 

The computer was invented by a German. His name was Konrad Zuse.

Almost evrything we use today was invented by Germany. Be it the car, jet engine or X-Rays.

Beside that, my country is an industrial one. We do build stuff. Thats why we have such powerful exports while your president cries about those evil Germans and Chinese who steal all your jobs. Pathetic.

 

Cry me a river. You should read a cooking book.

 

The best rifle on the planet is still the AK. The '47 is terribly innaccurate, but a 1/10th production cost compared to the AR more than makes up for it in 'big picture' terms. The '74 and variants are for more accurate yet just as cheap. While the AR is also cheaper to produce than it used to be, its still a 'racecar' compared to the 'pickup truck' AK both in performance terms and cost.

On an individual level, the AR wins in maximum overall effective potential, but on a large (regional or national) scale, the AK is still the best option in terms of cost/effect.

The AK was based on German design and perfected to maximum efficiency of cost/effect by Russia.

 

Canada is more popular than Germany on many surveys.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings-index

Germany is very popular, however.

 

Yeah everybody wants a German computer. Then there is the PC, Apple, I-pads and cell phones. Got it.

 

And Americans perfected everything Germany invented.

Germany invented hamburger and Americans put it between a bun.

 

All those things are made in China. Guess you are a big fan of Xin Jinping.