Sigmund Ivarsson's Petra Project for Israel, Jordan and The Palestinians.

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  1. WillReadmore

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    Your Jordon thing seems based on two basic principles that I do not believe can be justified.

    First is the notion that nations are for sale. I know of no case where an offer like that of Jordon was accepted by a country anywhere.

    Next is the idea that you can't talk to President Abbas. That can not be supported. Let's remember that the IDF works closely with Abbas and states that Abbas is their primary partner in peace. The IDF has allowed Abbas more force in keeping control of violence in West Bank. But, the fact remains that Abbas can not operate in significant portions of West Bank where his people are having their land, property, water rights, etc. stolen. What SHOULD be impressive is that there is so little violence in West Bank. And, as for Gaza, Israel prevents Abbas from operating there, insisting on leaving Gaza to Hamas - an organization that Abbas has proven he can control if given the opportunity.

    And, let's stay away from this idea of finding evil historic individuals. Every nation including our own has had members of government who have committed inexcusable acts of self aggrandizement, etc.

    If you have a charge against the current leadership, then state it.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I admit that President Abbas is
    a far better leader than President Arafat.

    Thank you for this comment..... your ideas are quite encouraging........ but on the practical level I do believe if the two nations of Israel and Jordan can come to an agreement that is win - win - win - win win....... then once they put that agreement together.......

    President Abbas would then have something specific to go to his people with......
     
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    I believe that the near death experience of the then fifteen year old Israeli is setting the stage for the Petra Project.



    (I commented):

    I have been studying near death experience accounts since 1990. I believe that Natan recounted all that he saw as accurately as any human could do so. But.... prayers can alter the events for the better. Physicists write about Multiverse Theory..... it means that Ezekiel 37 can occur again and again and again and new time lines can be spun off. Each one can be better.... as we pray and repent at a greater level.

    I completely agree with what Natan said that something as seemingly small as wearing Tzitzit can be very important. I am a Christian who looks at the words of Rabbi Yeshua differently than most do.

    "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." ... This sound a lot like what Natan said......

    Two years that are extremely important for the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple and the beginning of the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 are 2070.... and 2030 for us Christians. If we support you in what you must do...... many troubles can be avoided. Millions, perhaps even billions of lives will be saved if Christian and some Muslims support the rebuilding of the Third Temple by 2030.... rather than the forty year delay.
     
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    One thing that Sigmund has in his favor is that he seems to be interested in environmental restoration.


    SigmundIvarsson wrote:
    I am glad to see that you are interested in the "restoration" of the environment.... since the environment is certainly
    one important part of "all things."

    Matthew 17:11
    "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things."
    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/theschoolofthespirit/the-petra-project-simplified-t3408.html#p91631
     
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    I am impressed that Sigmund advocates the Ernest L. Martin theory of the Gihon Spring for the Holy of Holies......

     
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    Maybe Israel is calculating if just not for potential archeological losses, what is the probability of finding remnants of a flaming chariot underneath what an earthquake caused or as geological science of volcanos in Israel is applicable to certain areas for building a tunnel. That ought to restore that wood burns when in contact with lava.
     
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    Speaking of fiery chariots.......


     
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    Can't see any fiery chariot, but could be another UFO/unidentified Fuhrer's object courtesy of the supreme swastika up Uranus court functioning in it's own space time continuum trafficking in drugs so SCOTUS national religion of US masochist/fascists can continue lynching enforcement for maintaining it's pseudo religious political business of "man is God" flying over Israel like those Arabian flying carpets of old.
     
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    I suppose that is one possibility........
    another one might be the un-fallen Watchers.......
    the ones to did not fall because of the grand daughters of Cain and Luluwa..... perhaps they are guarding the Temple Mount from the type of damage that might have been intended on January 25, 2011......


    Daniel 4:17 - "This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men."


    Some aliens are still with the good guys......... relatively speaking.

     
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    Too many immaculate conceptions & fabricated misnomers which are alien as pseudo science seems to perpetrate on the mind of man & if man doesn't accept; there's always lynching enforcement of the national religion business pyramid scheme.
     
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    The nation of Jordan has many good reasons to be very interested in Sigmund's Petra Project.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/facing-even-hotter-drier-climate-jordan-testing-desert-182025250.html

    Facing an even hotter, drier climate, Jordan testing desert agriculture
     

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