Significant earthquake rattles North Jersey and NYC region

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  1. Canell

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    Surprise-surprise. What do you know, that's a rare event for the East Coast of America.
    Stay safe everyone.
     
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    Climate change? I've often wondered about that. Everything seems to be connected.

    https://science.nasa.gov/earth/clim...ect-earthquakes-or-are-the-connections-shaky/

    “We’ve seen that relatively small stress changes due to climate-like forcings can effect microseismicity,” he said. “A lot of small fractures in Earth’s crust are unstable. We see also that tides can cause faint Earth tremors known as microseisms. But the real problem is taking our knowledge of microseismicity and scaling it up to apply it to a big quake, or a quake of any size that people could feel, really.” Climate-related stress changes might or might not promote an earthquake to occur, but we have no way of knowing by how much.
     
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    Next they will scare us with forest fires are worse due to global warming and won't tell us that forest fires burned unnoticed for thousands of years because people didn't build there.
     
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    Here in the Mountain West, we know about wildfires. They are part of the everyday lives of ALL who live here. And yes, we are dealing with more intense wildfires than ever. Unlike the US East Coast and the Southeast, where temperatures haven't risen as much. Climate change has extended the wildfire season to be longer; and the hotter, dryer temperatures have made the wildfires more intense and harder to extinguish.

    https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-us-and-global-temperature
    • Some parts of the United States have experienced more warming than others (see Figure 3). The North, the West, and Alaska have seen temperatures increase the most, while some parts of the Southeast have experienced little change.
     
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    An article from the EPA? Really? Do you know where they get those temperatures from? The city!
     
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    I would urge you to consult the NOAA website, where they talk about the methods used for "Global Average Temperatures". Your statement is inaccurate.
     
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    As mentioned with the NASA link earlier, there is no way to know definitively, but with all the other crazy Climate-Change-Induced events, there is probably a connection.
     
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    Yeh. The 1783 much more powerful earthquake in the same vicinity was probably connected to crazy AGW as well.

    Do you think the above average sea level rise around New York and New Jersey could play a part in instability? Any idea why sea levels would be rising faster in these areas?

    Or are we just going to act like ancient civilizations that believed without evidence thunder was from the gods?
     
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    Are you telling me that you don’t believe that God is punishing us for destroying His planet?
     
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    Actually I was telling you there is more evidence for anthropogenic activities NOT related to CO2 driven AGW causing earthquakes than evidence for AGW itself causing earthquakes.

    Underground CO2 storage is documented to cause earthquakes. Geothermal power production and hydroelectric is documented to cause earthquakes. Depletion of aquifers is known to cause earthquakes.

    But you only know about a thing that isn’t even documented to be true and only care about that thing.

    Why would I believe a god is punishing us? Is increased longevity, less deaths from natural disasters, less deaths from suboptimal temperatures, and increased food production potential “punishment”? Not to me….
     
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