This is what I think too. The story by the British that he's living somewhere incongnito in Britain is a bunch of hogwash. If he was, wouldn't he at least try to let his mother know he's alive and well. One has to worry about his daughter. Could she be dead too, or is she held prisoner so as not to reveal the truth? “Well, Skripal is not among the living,” Victoria said. She came to this conclusion because the ex-spy has not informed his relatives about his state of health for a year. An earlier edition of The Sunday Times, citing an intelligence source, reported that the former GRU officer, Sergey Skripal, who had been poisoned by a nerve agent in British Salisbury, was feeling worse. “As for the reports about the Skripals living in the south of England, changing their appearance, giving Julia Skripal work that requires mastering the Russian language, maintaining contact with friends and so on, they, if you read carefully, turn out to be nothing more than assumptions by people who understand the way the British intelligence services work in such situations. These are conjectures that do not deserve a serious comment,” the Russian embassy also added that during all these months Sergey Skripal’s mother could not communicate with her son or granddaughter. https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/02/skripal-is-dead-says-niece/ \
Gee, must be a quiet week for the Putinistas is this is worth its own thread. Apparently people don't understand the point of witness protection. Communicating with people living under the rule of the government that tried to kill you is sort of the exact opposite of what you'd do. Safe to assume that when they do turn up alive this piece of propaganda will be quickly forgotten, just like so much of the BS propaganda Russia has pumped out about this attempted murder. The propagandists will just move on to the next lie.
He might have carked it? I mean he isn't/wasn't (whichever the case may be lol) a spring chicken for one thing, and for another, in his profession as a double agent/spy/traitor, I daresay he had a lot of enemies who'd 'disappear' him? **** happens when you betray your country, or pretend you're an agent for another one, such as the UK, when it isn't true? Call it 'an occupational hazard'?
I'm pretty sure Skripals are detained forcefully. They are imprisoned by British KGB, they are not allowed to communicate with their relatives, friends, are not allowed to show up in public, to speak free. They live in complete isolation, like prisoners. Instead, sometimes British KGB releases some stupid texts, which obviously are not Russian-speaking origin, any Russian knows that. Actually, the best weapon against "Russian propaganda" would be if Skripals went to press-conference with journalist from all over the world and told what happened to them, told how "evil Russia" poisoned them and tried to kill them. But they don't do it even in these stupid texts spreaded by British KGB in media on their behalf. Very important thing is that not a single British journalist wonders - why? No one asks British government embarassing questions. No one tries to find out what is going on with Skripals for sure. No one tries to find out how are they now, like it doesn't matter. It's incredible situation for the country whose journalism for centuries was a role model for the whole world. Instead, nowadays British media spread some dosed leaks from British secret services about Skripals, that absolutelely clearly shows that they are just servants of British KGB, they are not journalists, they are propagandists. Its' a shame! It's a big shame! Now British "free" media start to prepare the public to the death of Sergey Skripal. They don't need him alive, because alive he highly likely would say not what they - British KGB and British propaganda - would want him to say. Poor Skripal, he's in trap, and has no chance to get out. Brits will kill him to make him keep silence forever, I'm sure.
..... or was Skripal a triple agent? From a piece over at the Saker's site: It is not necessary to decide whether Skripal was a triple agent from the start (that is, a plant sent across in a spy swap, a classic Cold War way of infiltrating the enemy) or whether he became a triple agent when he realized how important this grotesque Steele Dossier had become and how much the Russians would pay him to come back and demolish it. What evidence there is (his phone call in 2012 to his old school friend, Vladimir Timoshkov, whose account of it three weeks after the poisoning gained widespread UK media coverage) suggests he started out as a purely mercenary traitor. Disillusioned by the collapse of the USSR into a gangster capitalist state run by Yeltsin’s mafia cronies, he decided he might as well profit from it by selling the corpse of what had once been his country to the highest bidder. The Russians didn’t seem to think of him as much more than a common criminal (only worth a moderate 13-year sentence, instead of the death penalty he would have got in the USA for betraying 300 agents) or they wouldn’t have let him survive six years in their prison. Perhaps when they exchanged him in the spy swap they gave him a wink and said: “Since you’re just a money-grubbing whore, any time you want to come back with some interesting stuff learned from working for MI6, let us know and we’ll discuss the price.” He soon got to learn that interesting stuff when he was sent to Salisbury, the home town of his MI6 recruiter and handler, Pablo Miller. Miller had recruited him in Spain in 1995 and later handled him from Estonia, when he was posted there as a diplomat. It is a little too much to believe Skripal’s move to Salisbury was a coincidence. The two men became friends again, met regularly in the pub, and there is every reason to think Miller resumed his role as handler. Miller was now working for Christopher Steele, his old boss at MI6, in his private intelligence firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, based in Mayfair. This is one of the private intelligence-gathering outfits run by ex-spies of the kind Litvinenko used to work for. Just as Litvinenko got Lugovoy (his accused assassin) to help him out with due diligence reports on Russian businessmen because of his more up-to-date information, so Miller would have used Skripal in the same way. His help became vital when Steele got the commission from the Democratic Party to dig up Russian dirt on Donald Trump, and they had to invent some GRU set-up of the Donald with prostitutes in a Moscow hotel. Miller, the old Russia hand, would have done a good part of the work on this dossier and would have needed all the authentic detail his Russian agent could provide. Perhaps it was Skripal who came up with the scenario of Trump getting prostitutes to urinate on the bed the Obamas had slept in, which hidden cameras filmed. He must at least have given it his imprimatur as a typical GRU blackmail ploy to turn somebody into an asset. And that obscene fiction, the core of the Steele Dossier, became the basis of the neo-con legend that Trump was a Russian stooge — the insane underpinning of the whole mad Mueller probe into “Russian collusion”. When Sergei the mercenary realized the vast importance this farcical, obscene Steele Dossier had taken on, that it was gospel truth for the whole anti-Trump, anti-Russia war party in Washington, he began to see how much it might be worth to the Russian state to blow it sky-high. If he were to describe on a prime-time Russian talk-show how he invented these obscene details over a beer with Miller and Steele in a pub, it would not only have all of Russia rolling on the floor with laughter. Heads would roll in Washington. The neo-con war party would become a laughing-stock. MI6 would be run out of town. Steele might face FBI perjury charges. The CIA might have its budget cut. Trump would be able to talk to Putin again. And the rewards for Sergei might be considerable. Not only seeing his 90-year old mother again, but perhaps even a swanky villa with a sea-view in Crimea or Sochi instead of that dank, shabby row-house in darkest Salisbury. Was it Sergei who broached this subject to Yulia on one of her visits to Britain, or was she recruited by the GRU to put it to him? My bet is the latter, since after the poisoning her cousin Viktoria claimed Yulia’s new boyfriend and his mother both worked for the Russian secret services (before disappearing from view.) With all of Sergei’s communications monitored by MI6, the only way he had of talking to the GRU was through his daughter, living back in Russia again but able to visit Britain. Through her he must have managed to negotiate a deal for his return. Somehow MI6 got wind of their plans — perhaps Yulia, not a trained spy, was a bit naive or careless about listening devices. Steele became convinced they had made an escape plan for Sergei, to be carried out next time she visited Salisbury. The thing that proves this was a British crime not a Russian one is the fact that Yulia was a prime target. The Russians had no motive to eliminate her, but if they had, they could have done it in Russia with a simple road accident with no questions asked. Only the British had to do it in Britain, since they didn’t have the resources in place to do it in Russia. And if she was not a prime target but collateral damage, why was Sergei not attacked when he was alone? Why wait for her to visit him? The fact they were both targeted the day after she arrived in Britain puts MI6’s signature all over it. She was a danger to MI6 because she knew of Sergei’s plan to return to Russia and trash the Steele Dossier, and she had to be stopped from revealing this to the world when he was killed. Silencing her at the same time was just as important to MI6 as silencing him. https://thesaker.is/the-alternative-skripal-narrative/ Well, it's certainly more plausible than the official 'story'.
What would be the motive though? Regardless of the truth of the poisoning, if he died as a consequence of that (or in a manner that could be spun that way), it would be in the British governments interests to publicise that fact. If the British government wanted to kill him, they could easily do that and cover it with a(nother) faked Russian attack. His simply disappearing only serves to raise exactly these questions and promotes speculation they’d want to avoid if at all possible. Keeping him hidden for his protection is the only rational reason I can think of for that. It seems perfectly plausible for him not to contact family in Russia given legitimate concern of what Russian officials might do to them to extract potential information about his whereabouts. It’s also plausible that he has contacted some close family members but they’re not telling anyone else, include other relatives they may be concerned are in collusion with the Russia authorities or could leak information to the press.
I think he was a quintuplet agent sorry...that was really bad (not bad enough to delete) I think the British put him in danger to start with... he should have retired after his return to Britain... but noooooo.... we need you Skripal... Russia is going to invade... mmm....think I should count all the Russian invasions according to the media... has to be at least close to a 1000 of them... some areas have been invaded multiple times by Russia...quintuplet invasions. Every time the US wants money from Europe they yell "invasion!!!" He could well be dead or dying... how do you even begin to recover from something like this... would take years if at all possible to make a full recovery.
Last I heard the Brits were looking for ways to have him live in the USA. It was leaked by Anonymous some weeks ago that the Skripal affair was connected to the UK Foreign Office funded propaganda British military intelligence unit, Integrity Initiative. Anonymous leaked documents showing that Pablo Miller, Skripal's MI6 handler, friend and Salisbury neighbour attended II meetings. Added to this is the very curious fact that the first responder who "found" the Skripal's slumped unconscious on a bench in the Salisbury park was none other than the British Army's Chief Nursing officer, Col. Alison McCourt.
Saker always gets his facts straight, but his analysis at times can be off - but not this time. He hit it on the button. Why would the British agents want to eliminate Yulia and not just Skripal if the intent was to blame Russia? Also why would her Russian agent boyfriend and mother disappear? Seems they were using Yulia to get Skripal to return. Moral: Don't mess with the MI6 if you want to live.
Since when does Russia need demonizing? It does a pretty good job all on its own. Just ask South Ossetia where Russians move their border a few meters each day. Or ask Ukrainians about Russian "volunteers" in their country with tanks. Or Dutch families trying to get the truth on the downing of a Flight 17 with a Buk missile. Or people in the Balkans who face Russian threats every day. Or airforce or naval personnel who see Russians provoking them with violations of their operations or airspace regularly. Or intelligence groups who watch Russian hackers committing espionage or political manipulation on an industrial scale. Or openly threatening to drown a hundred million people with a nuclear tsunami.
LOL - beyond belief, isn't it!! 'One born every minute' as they say. I blame the Dumbing Down Project.
Actually, Putin himself has admitted as much for most of the things mentioned here. If you read American "propaganda" you will hear and see Putin boasting of underwater nukes - and strangely, Putin hasn't contradicted this. More propaganda involves Australian efforts to get compensation for the downing of Flight 17. Putin was here and did admit a plane came down, and even said he would co-operate in the investigation. Propaganda that he hasn't cooperated haven't been fully denied by Putin. What country is the most free of propaganda? What do you mean by propaganda?
