Skyrocketing Massive Vax Induced Heart Injuries!

Hilarious. Basically this user doesn't accept ANY evidence because it disagrees with their claim. It's all made up apparently.....for reasons. A ludicrous number of people involved accordingly.

And since the numbers haven't been shown to be anything significant compared to normal, no need anyway. Let's wait for him to answer this:
"Show where your lying-ass website source (dedicated to antivaxx movement!) has performed even a scrap of causation or correlation with natural occurrences!"

 

That’s the job of the FDA and CDC.


“In the past, if a child received a vaccination and was injured, the parents could sue the company that made it. When that right was taken away, the incentive for manufacturers to improve their products and maintain safety disappeared. VAERS was supposed to monitor for safety signals. A safety signal is an indication that there might be a problem with a specific vaccine. Once you receive the safety signal, you drill down and investigate what might be causing the problem.

— What the Nurses Saw: An Investigation Into Systemic Medical Murders That Took Place in Hospitals During the COVID Panic and the Nurses Who Fought Back ... Their Patients (Medical System Corruption) by Ken McCarthy
https://a.co/64kOtVL

 

They have to be investigated by law.

 

Uhuh, so not the clowns who run your lying-ass website, who HAVEN'T done it!

Spamming that book in numerous posts!

 

The authors of the Wikipedia piece chose the citations to make their argument.

 

Which law, cite it.

 

It’s a good summary of the issues seen first hand by health care professionals.

 

Knee-jerk dismissal is the tool of every conspiracy theorist. I wonder if there is a website out there called Batshitheard.org?

 

I just did. The 1986 Vaccine Injury Act.

 

Says who? You just conceded these liars haven't correlated or cross-checked a damn thing!

 

What is the motivation for being pro vax and anti vax.

 

The absolutely have.

 

Evasion again! Cite how it ties in with a reporting system that doesn't require any injury for the report!

 

They have done zero correlation or causation.

"Show where your lying-ass website source (dedicated to antivaxx movement!) has performed even a scrap of causation or correlation with natural occurrences!"

 

They haven't. They take the VAERS data and make is more accessible. What is your proof that OpenVAERS.com is a "lying-ass website source" dedicated to the antivaxx movement.

https://openvaers.com/

 

Don't rule out wiki until you've consulted any footnotes. It can be a good source, depending upon the authors.

 

I personally would not trust it on politicized issues. On historical references it’s a good source but again you have to be careful.

 

Sometimes the footnotes are excellent sources. I remember getting an interesting source on the Jewish and Muslim population history of Palestine from the 1500s to the creation of Israel.

 

Be careful? Of course. We should be skeptical of all sources on just about any topic.

 

An interesting read. She's making a buck off of anti-vax propaganda, if the story is to be believed.

 

Not in the detail you're talking about.

 

COMEDY GOLD

I stated the obvious. They haven't done a damn thing!

He says they have. No link showing where.

I restated the obvious. They haven't done a damn thing!

Flip-flopping along, now they haven't!

False. They deliberately distort it without checking a damn thing as you finally just admitted!

Already given to you. I don't care whether you like the source or not. We've seen your evasion and dismissal of anything that contradicts the batshit.

 

Anti-Vaxxers Misuse Federal Data to Falsely Claim COVID Vaccines Are Dangerous (vice.com)
"Before one can even search through VAERS data, it’s necessary to click past a number of disclaimers, including one that reads: “Reports may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information,” and another that says, plainly, “The number of reports alone cannot be interpreted or used to reach conclusions about the existence, severity, frequency, or rates of problems associated with vaccines.

But there is now a webpage called the OpenVAERS Project, which “allows browsing and searching of the reports without the need to compose an advanced search,” through the official VAERS website. The OpenVAERS Project has a dedicated page to the COVID-19 vaccines.

According to a Facebook post from February 2020, OpenVAERS appears to be the project of a website called The Arkivist, which describes itself as a source for "uncensored voices and medical freedom news." By creating a site that allows users to easily search through and highlight these reports, its designers bypass the explanations that this is a passive reporting system, as well as other details that OpenVAERS apparently considers unimportant."

The OpenVAERS Project is “misinformation 101,” Koltai said. “It's decontextualization. I literally show examples like that in classes that I teach. You take a bit of information and you remove all the other context from it. That's common with almost any misinformation you can see.”

The types of “injuries" and adverse effects attributed to vaccines in the VAERS database are often a tip-off that not all the information is solid. There can also be a misunderstanding of what constitutes an “adverse event” in VAERS. Koltai said she’s seen statistics floating around that 80% of people are having an adverse reaction to a vaccine, "according to VAERS."

But those reactions could include anything from unconfirmed reports of minor side effects, like arm soreness, to events that likely are not caused by the vaccine. Adverse events in the database for the COVID vaccines currently include a traffic accident, a gunshot wound, illiteracy, a decreased “frustration tolerance,” and, counterintuitively, a negative chlamydia test. "

For the people who know what they’re doing, VAERS serves an important function. Scientists, public health experts, and the government often use it to try to find out if a vaccine is having an unexpected or undesirable side effect. But even there, VAERS is the beginning, not the end.

 

I have no idea what you are talking about anymore. The VAERS system was set up to report adverse reactions to vaccination. The FDA and CDC are responsible for investigating each of those adverse reactions.

 

Hit piece.