Smart Guns: Now Here for those Demanding Gun Safety

All hearsay or is there some definite information attached to this? Mind you I thought this fitted the whole debate

 

I believe the Politcal Cartoonist for whatever Tribune he works for should demand that his newspaper office be armed exculusively with the defective Smartgun he has drawn. (See my first post).

I know you rather have a politically correct gun that won't go bang every time it needs to fired, but wiser people, like in the NRA, don't want to see honest people killed using a defective and unsafe product.

 

again with the cartoon examples......the dying gasp of a social lib. Where's the Rodney Dangerfield one-liners?
"fitted"??? really

 

Really? Thats what you are down to now? Silly cartoons? Rather than actually read and educate yourself about the issue you chose to spend your time digging up a childish cartoon?

In 15 minutes on the internet you could have verified everything I wrote, and more, but you choose to bury your head in the sand.

 

What a dumb gun. There are so many ways it could fail to fire. The wrist watch needs to be close to the gun. On the news yesterday, I saw someone firing it at a range and he moved his arm with the wrist watch away, and it wouldn't fire! What if your arm is being held by an intruder?? What if you shoot with one arm / hand?? Unbelievably stupid, dumb proposal.

What if you are in the shower and need to get out, then you have to put the stupid watch on first and then grab the gun and then possibly enter your pin. Never mind, you're already dead.

 

I looked at one my gun dealer had on display. These guns are junk. He wont sell them and only had the one to show folks how bogus they are. A heavy sleeved jacket can interfere with the signal.
His claim is that they jam easily and you cannot break them down all the way to clean all of the mechanisms. It needs to be taken into the shop for that..............

 

You are correct and I think it should be illegal for (in fact make a law against) teenage gang members being armed with the intent to use the firearm in a criminal act.

 

I didn't realize these were available on the market-imagine that this is selling like hotcakes to all the politicians calling for and promoting this technology? The police are a trusting lot, wonder why they haven't placed this space age technology in service. Maybe because they have to be able to count on their weapon working 100% of the time? I would never buy a life insurance policy that could be rendered null and void if lacking in fresh batteries or susceptible to outside influences.

 

Yes it should. But it would be difficult to identify which teen is a gang member on sight so really teens should not carry guns

 

It is already illegal in most if not all states for anyone under 21 to own a handgun or carry a concealed firearm.

It is illegal under federal law for anyone under 21 to buy a handgun from an FFL.

It is illegal under federal law for non-FFL people to transfer a handgun to anyone under 18.

The "intent to commit a crime" is a already a crime if the step taken (acquire or carry a firearm) is significant and substantial in a course of action intended to culminate in a crime (murder) even if that course of action is not completed.

So both of you are out of touch, your desires to criminalize certain behaviour was implemented long ago.

And as you can see, it doesn't work to stop these criminals. These people don't care about the law.

 

Here is the TX law that decides who is eligible to get a CHL in TX. I don't think many teen gang members will qualify. Before being issued a CHL a state and federal background check is performed with fingerprints, signed and notarized affidavits, and passport photos. They also have to prove competency at the firing range.

Texas Government Code - Section 411.172. Eligibility

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§ 411.172. ELIGIBILITY. (a) A person is eligible for a
license to carry a concealed handgun if the person:
(1) is a legal resident of this state for the six-month
period preceding the date of application under this subchapter or
is otherwise eligible for a license under Section 411.173(a);
(2) is at least 21 years of age;
(3) has not been convicted of a felony;
(4) is not charged with the commission of a Class A or
Class B misdemeanor or an offense under Section 42.01, Penal Code,
or of a felony under an information or indictment;
(5) is not a fugitive from justice for a felony or a
Class A or Class B misdemeanor;
(6) is not a chemically dependent person;
(7) is not incapable of exercising sound judgment with
respect to the proper use and storage of a handgun;
( has not, in the five years preceding the date of
application, been convicted of a Class A or Class B misdemeanor or
an offense under Section 42.01, Penal Code;
(9) is fully qualified under applicable federal and
state law to purchase a handgun;
(10) has not been finally determined to be delinquent
in making a child support payment administered or collected by the
attorney general;
(11) has not been finally determined to be delinquent
in the payment of a tax or other money collected by the comptroller,
the tax collector of a political subdivision of the state, or any
agency or subdivision of the state;
(12) has not been finally determined to be in default
on a loan made under Chapter 57, Education Code;
(13) is not currently restricted under a court
protective order or subject to a restraining order affecting the
spousal relationship, other than a restraining order solely
affecting property interests;
(14) has not, in the 10 years preceding the date of
application, been adjudicated as having engaged in delinquent
conduct violating a penal law of the grade of felony; and
(15) has not made any material misrepresentation, or
failed to disclose any material fact, in an application submitted
pursuant to Section 411.174 or in a request for application
submitted pursuant to Section 411.175.
(b) For the purposes of this section, an offense under the
laws of this state, another state, or the United States is:
(1) a felony if the offense, at the time of a person's
application for a license to carry a concealed handgun:
(A) is designated by a law of this state as a
felony;
(B) contains all the elements of an offense
designated by a law of this state as a felony; or
(C) is punishable by confinement for one year or
more in a penitentiary; and
(2) a Class A misdemeanor if the offense is not a
felony and confinement in a jail other than a state jail felony
facility is affixed as a possible punishment.
(c) An individual who has been convicted two times within
the 10-year period preceding the date on which the person applies
for a license of an offense of the grade of Class B misdemeanor or
greater that involves the use of alcohol or a controlled substance
as a statutory element of the offense is a chemically dependent
person for purposes of this section and is not qualified to receive
a license under this subchapter. This subsection does not preclude
the disqualification of an individual for being a chemically
dependent person if other evidence exists to show that the person is
a chemically dependent person.
(d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(7), a person is incapable
of exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and
storage of a handgun if the person:
(1) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician as
suffering from a psychiatric disorder or condition that causes or
is likely to cause substantial impairment in judgment, mood,
perception, impulse control, or intellectual ability;
(2) suffers from a psychiatric disorder or condition
described by Subdivision (1) that:
(A) is in remission but is reasonably likely to
redevelop at a future time; or
(B) requires continuous medical treatment to
avoid redevelopment;
(3) has been diagnosed by a licensed physician or
declared by a court to be incompetent to manage the person's own
affairs; or
(4) has entered in a criminal proceeding a plea of not
guilty by reason of insanity.
(e) The following constitutes evidence that a person has a
psychiatric disorder or condition described by Subsection (d)(1):
(1) involuntary psychiatric hospitalization in the
preceding five-year period;
(2) psychiatric hospitalization in the preceding
two-year period;
(3) inpatient or residential substance abuse
treatment in the preceding five-year period;
(4) diagnosis in the preceding five-year period by a
licensed physician that the person is dependent on alcohol, a
controlled substance, or a similar substance; or
(5) diagnosis at any time by a licensed physician that
the person suffers or has suffered from a psychiatric disorder or
condition consisting of or relating to:
(A) schizophrenia or delusional disorder;
(B) bipolar disorder;
(C) chronic dementia, whether caused by illness,
brain defect, or brain injury;
(D) dissociative identity disorder;
(E) intermittent explosive disorder; or
(F) antisocial personality disorder.
(f) Notwithstanding Subsection (d), a person who has
previously been diagnosed as suffering from a psychiatric disorder
or condition described by Subsection (d) or listed in Subsection
(e) is not because of that disorder or condition incapable of
exercising sound judgment with respect to the proper use and
storage of a handgun if the person provides the department with a
certificate from a licensed physician whose primary practice is in
the field of psychiatry stating that the psychiatric disorder or
condition is in remission and is not reasonably likely to develop at
a future time.
(g) Notwithstanding Subsection (a)(2), a person who is at
least 18 years of age but not yet 21 years of age is eligible for a
license to carry a concealed handgun if the person:
(1) is a member or veteran of the United States armed
forces, including a member or veteran of the reserves or national
guard;
(2) was discharged under honorable conditions, if
discharged from the United States armed forces, reserves, or
national guard; and
(3) meets the other eligibility requirements of
Subsection (a) except for the minimum age required by federal law to
purchase a handgun.
(h) The issuance of a license to carry a concealed handgun
to a person eligible under Subsection (g) does not affect the
person's ability to purchase a handgun or ammunition under federal
law.

 

Jersey...Vote Weinberg out.

NJ Lawmakers Promise to Ease Gun Restrictions... If NRA Gives Ground:

On May 9 New Jersey state senator Loretta Weinberg (D-37) told MSNBC that she and fellow lawmakers would "reverse" a 2002 law limiting gun sales to smart guns "only if the National Rifle Association (NRA) vows not to try to stop the...manufacture or sale of smart guns."

Breitbart News reported that the 2002 is designed to go into effect three years after a "viable" smart gun is available on the retail market. Once in effect, the law states that "no other type of handgun shall be sold or offered for sale by any registered or licensed firearm dealer in this state."

Smart gun proponents have seized on the Armatix iP1 as the "viable" smart gun to trigger the law, although the gun is only chambered in .22 long rifle, costs $1,800 a gun, and is already being targeted by tech companies who are working on ways to jam the gun electronically, so that it will not fire.

Gun rights proponents in New Jersey have opposed the marketing of the gun because they do not want to be forced to buy it and be further forced to depend on it to defend their lives or property.

However, NJ.com reports that state senator Weinberg--the same senator who sponsored the magazine ban that also bans many .22 rifles--says she and her colleagues will change the law if the NRA will simply allow the Armatix iP1 or another smart gun to reach the market place.

Weinberg will hold the gun rights of New Jersey citizens hostage until then.

Source

 

This gun will be a disaster if it is the only gun on the market. Thieves will come up with some kind of jammer to make their "occupation" more safe. You couldn't pay me to move to NJ.

 

Does New Jersey have recall? If they did, they need to get this pig out of there