Smoking Guns: The Official Story Tellers

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  1. Primus Epic

    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    You need to learn how to use your brain for critical thinking and develop a better sense of wise discernment. I'd pick a "Conspiracy Theorist" eyewitness first hand statement over a Popular Mechanics rendition of a National Geographic science fiction novel not even fit for television.

    Back to the issue...

    The Hole Does Not Fit the Aircraft:
    [video=youtube;Jc1ql4TfCZw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc1ql4TfCZw[/video]

    Why don't you simply get off the Denial Train to Nowhere:
    [video=youtube;beIbbnt9LHk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beIbbnt9LHk[/video]


    Stop ignoring these technical questions and start putting forth rebuttal statements that answer them.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They have all been answered before but that is not what you are interested in. The kooky ideas you present have their own life and all in the head of conspiracy theorists.
     
  3. Primus Epic

    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    You have to completely asleep. The NTSB was pulled OFF the lead investigative role for 911 and replaced by the USAF, FBI and the Pentagon. Where have you been and why do you desire to be in the dark on these matters all the time?

    September 11th, 2001, marked not only a first in American Commercial Aviation Accident History, but it also marked a first in U.S. Commercial Aviation Accident Investigation History. The FBI stood in the way of NTSB investigators by re-directing their efforts from the very start of the 911 investigation. How do we know? These people are not NTSB Investigators:

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    Pay very close attention to what you are being told in this video and pay more attention to what you actually see people doing. A wall of human beings are walking the grounds picking up pieces of material in front of the Pentagon. That is most certainly not NTSB protocol. If this were a true NTSB Investigation, the entire area would have been taped-off and no one allowed inside the tape so as not to contaminate the site. The last thing the NTSB wants is for people who are not part of the investigation to carry away EVIDENCE!

    [video=youtube;SbJ2oA3KSxY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbJ2oA3KSxY[/video]

    Let me repeat that: "The FBI is in charge of the investigation here...;" "There could be people still alive in there..."

    So, while there still might be people inside the Pentagon needing as much assistance as they can get, the FBI is trolling the perimeter doing "clean up" AFTER pulling the NTSB off the lead investigative role, which is precisely what the NTSB's charter is all about. The NTSB has the expertise in this area, not the FBI.

    No one should have been allowed to put their grubby little hands on ANYTHING that might have been considered evidence from that which struck the Pentagon. This is so amazingly clear that nobody can witness this and come to any other conclusion that does not include a cold blooded and highly calculated inside-job cover-up after the fact.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Silly, of course the NTSB investigated it. Just because the FBI was in charge, which makes sense, does not mean the NTSB did not investigate anything.

    http://www.911myths.com/images/8/84/Team8_Box15_HijackedAirplanes_Folder3_NTSB-Reports-On-UA93.pdf
     
  5. Primus Epic

    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    They've all been answered before merely because you say so and not because you've posted anything here that demonstrates it. Got it.


    The inability for you to see the forest for the trees is not compelling evidence of your insight into these matters. No matter what gets put forth in this thread, you Official Storytellers keep ignoring it, proclaiming "Victory!," and then walking off into the sunset as if you've actually rebutted something on the merits.

    Look at the face of the Pentagon immediately after impact and show me a hole of any size capable of swallowing a Boeing 757, nose to tail and wingtip to wingtip. Anybody looking at the face of the building minutes after impact who cannot see that there is no hole anywhere remotely close to supporting the diameter, height and width of a Boeing 757, must be a card carrying member of the Kooky Society.

    Here it is again:
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    There is NO hole commensurate with a Boeing 757's diameter, height, or width. You can BARELY drive an Suburban SUV through the darn hole seen in the pre-collapse photos. Anyone with a modicum of sincerity can look at this photo and conclude that no Boeing 757 could have possibly created this kind of damage.

    - - - Updated - - -

    100-0000. Captured w/trackback.
     
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    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    What's silly is the notion that the NTSB would allow contamination of its own investigation. What's more silly is the bizarre notion that somehow the NTSB would send out men in suits to pick up debris moments after a commercial heavy crash, without properly identifying and/or marking said debris. What's even more silly is the idea that the NTSB would suggest to the FBI that it form a human vacuum cleaner to pick-up any debris found while people are still potentially trapped outside the building.

    The NTSB Tags, Bags and Catalogs physical evidence at a crash site and they do it with dexterity and careful attention. They don't rush through a site, running and tripping over "some" debris, while focusing on picking up "larger" debris.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, so nothing ever gets picked up. Gotcha.
     
  8. Primus Epic

    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    Not by the FBI or Dull Suit types at an NTSB site where that which is being "picked up" has not been tagged, bagged and/or cataloged for lab analysis and reference.

    Have you not figured it out yet. What does Sierra Alpha Delta mean to you? How about Sierra Oscar Golf. What does this represent and why is it important here:

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    Still haven't figured it out? How about here:

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    Any clues? How about Oscar November Sierra O11 - can you identify that?

    The internal tide is turning like it or not. Sooner or later there will be a breach for honor and dignity. The system is obsolete and needs to be replaced. There is a league that believes in honor above all else. Honor shall be extant sooner than later and The People will come to know their truer identity.

    Now, back to the question: How on earth did Dick Cheney's boy know what nobody else was supposed to know about the "alleged" Flight 77?

    This ain't going away. It will only get bigger until those responsible are brought to justice under the laws of the United States of America. O11 says, count on it.
     
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    It has already gone away, you are just inflating your sense of importance.
     
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    I'm exposing your lack of understanding about the subject matter. Get the prose straight.

    Now, back to the question: How on earth did Dick Cheney's boy know what nobody else was supposed to know about the "alleged" Flight 77?

    If Dick Cheney, knew about an airborne vehicle that had nothing to do with Flight 93, and had in-bound telemetry on that same vehicle, then that proves beyond a shadow of any doubt that 911 was an inside job. This is why you have ran and hid from this central question throughout this entire thread - offering nonsequitur replies as internal and personal warrants against guilt.

    [video=youtube;cUmr9dFbf2c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUmr9dFbf2c[/video]

    It's called a Fraud'ian Slip.
     
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    [video=youtube;_rRqeJcuK-A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRqeJcuK-A[/video]

    It's called an Inside Job to Cover Losses and Make More Money in Oil PSA Contracts.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Oh bull(*)(*)(*)(*)......we didn't 'lose' half the debt of the country,use your brain,he misspoke...
     
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    Except... did you hear that comment he made at 0:50?:

    "It is..... I was going to say terrifying..."

    There we were, just one (1) day from real terror and the Defense Secretary can't come up with any word other than "terrifying" to describe the $2.5 Trillion the Pentagon lost, where its potential paper trail was then utterly destroyed the very next day by (wait for it....wait for it....) you guessed it: A Terror Attack.

    There ain't that much coincidence in all of Power Ball Lottery. Of course, 911 was clearly a "terrifying" inside job and Fraud'ian Slips were clearly being made before the event took place. Or, maybe that was not a Fraud'ian Slip after all. Maybe the Secretary was just being arrogant in his prediction of what would happen the very next day. Maybe they really did believe in a "New Pearl Harbor."

    This country should banish Neocons from ever entering the White House again, unless they ride in on a Tour Bus. There should be a sign posted above the entrance to the White House that reads: No Neocons! Big bold letters and stuff like that.

    Unreal. Rumsfeld, actually called it on September 10th, 2001 - right in front of all our eyes and we just slept straight through it. That takes cojones and a clearly sociopathic mindset.

    Done and done.
     
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    It wasn't even lost, just not accounted for. This is just another one of your cockamamie conspiracy theories.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    2.5 trillion is YEARS worth of the defense department budget,gomer.....
     
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    I wonder if prime thinks they 'lost' 2.5 trillion inn 9 months?
     
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    Even if it was 2.5 Trillion since 1776
    The taxpayers have a right to accountability
    because its OUR $$$!

    The money probably figures into the plot in some way
    however, I tend to stick to bits that have a solid foundation in science,
    ( rather than political "science" )
    that is WHY is there even any question at all as to was WTC7 Controlled Demolition?
    Get a grip people!
     
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    WTC7 was not a controlled demolition. No question about it.
     
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    can you PROVE that no explosives were involved in the destruction of WTC7?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    NO residue was found

    And where's your proof?....whinig that it looked like one,doesn't cut it.
     
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    do tell, WHO checked ground zero for traces of explosives?

    What other explanation is there for buildings that "self-destruct" and pulverize themselves,
    destroy 100% of the office contents, destroy all of the light fixtures, all of the sinks, plumbing fixtures,
    ..... what was left in the rubble?

    WTC7 fell at the acceleration of gravity for 2.25 sec, and just exactly how is that done without explosives?
     
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    WHO needed to? it was evident what happened....and whats so amazing abour porcelain being pulverized in the collapse?
     
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    What is so amazing is the fact that not only "porcelain" was pulverized, but whole offices disappeared
    in the rubble, pulverized beyond recognition, that is copy machines, & computers, desks, chairs, lights,
    not to mention the Restaurant at the top of the world, heavy stoves, iron cookware, where did it all go?
    + there is a jet engine missing in the rubble, how do you LOOSE a jet engine in the rubble?

    also please tell me that you get it, that is the 2.25 sec of free fall of WTC7 (?)
     

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