So, is flamebaiting not flamebaiting anymore?

This has been the case in just about every thread about Trayvon Martin, but, this one is the worst I've had the displeasure of reading through...

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/240900-trayvon-trademarked.html

Have the rules about flamebaiting changed?

Are they no longer enforced?

Are there certain posters who are allowed to post like this?

This is not me wanting to silence a differing opinion...

This is me seeing posts that do not intend to create debate, but, only intend to incite a negative response, and, I thought that was a no-go...

I'm posting this because I know the mods don't see everything, and, I hope that by posting this here, it will be noticed, and something can be done about the ignorant (*)(*)(*)(*) that is going on...

Thanks...

 

I don't understand how the rule is being applied anymore either. It just seems like a crap shoot anymore.

 

It wouldn't be a big deal if the blatant stuff weren't just out there, and left to pollute the forum...

 

Well yeah.. I mean, it becomes a toss up to whether you simply send in a complaint about it "hoping" it gets picked up by the mods in a reasonable amount of time or if it's just better to respond and put them in their place which has a negative affect on you the responder to an outright rule violation that you know more often then not won't get cleared up any time soon.

It's frustrating to say the least.

 

I don't know, either. Seems to be getting pretty nasty upstairs and mods aren't doing much. I've been trying very hard lately to be polite, which isn't my typical style (although full-blown insults and trolling isn't, either), but it's not been easy.

The argument always is that such things are very subjective, which, ok, I can see that, but at the same time, many of the things that might be questionable flamebait are obviously off-topic, but that rule seems to get totally forgotten in such cases.

 

How predictable... liberals wanting to silence opinions they don't agree with by playing victim.

 

Shut the (*)(*)(*)(*) up...

As usual, no useful response...

I'm just talking about outright flamebaiting...

If you have a differing opinion, fine...

Express it in an effective manner...

The (*)(*)(*)(*) in that thread is outright flamebait...

All you are capable of doing is calling people liberals when they disagree with you...

Because you have nothing useful to say...

 

I guess you missed Hat's thread about banning the word "racist".

How predictable.

 

I guess the standards have lowered. I was once infracted for telling another member to "shut your face" after he baited me by joking about long how it had been since I made a reply, implying that I knew I was wrong.

I'm not exactly sure how the post directly above this isn't trolling/baiting.

Perhaps the mods have taken the position that if it hasn't been reported, it doesn't need editing. I could support such a method.

 

From my own personal experiences …

Going Off-Topic is a more serious infraction and gets you Banned for disregarding THE RULES!

Posting a Thread with this in the Headline isn’t a serious infraction and doesn’t get you banned … No Limit NI&&A

So this should tell you everything you need to know simply based on the Visual Evidence alone.

 

Ironic you should say that...

Linky.

 

Not trolling...

Just good advice...

It was a logical response to the typical "rabblerabble libruls" stupidity...

 

Yeah, that had nothing to do with what I said.

 

Posts like that wouldn't exist if sheeple wasn't too quick to condemn the Latino guy for being a White racist that hated 12-year-old black kids like so many on the left originally believed after seeing the initial news reports on the topic. Most leftists are still condemning Zimmerman without knowing all the facts and dismissing Trayvon's thuggish, violent and criminal past.

People on the right don't take too kindly to hypocrisy.

 

Yet many of you engage in hypocrisy yourselves...

Most folks just want to see justice served, that's all...

And, unfortunately, that has led to the CE section of the forum devolving into a cesspool of racist, bigoted bull(*)(*)(*)(*)...

 

I wouldn't disagree with this actually. But I know who started it all and it wasn't the right.

"Racism and bigoted bull(*)(*)(*)(*)" is coming just as much from you leftists as it is from the right.

 

First off, I'm not a leftist...

But, I'm well aware of the MO, and, if I don't agree with someone on this forum, I'm either gonna be a lib, a con, a righty, a lefty, any of that nonsense...

And, to be honest, I haven't seen as many so called libs promoting the racial aspect of this as I've seen so called cons talking about how if Martin hadn't been acting like a violent Black thug, then, this wouldn't have happened...

Both sides have spun this wheel, true, but, I think one side in particular is putting more effort into it...

 

Then you have rose-tinted specs on.

 

It's not racist or racism no matter how close it sounds to being racist or racism... it's "racial awareness"...

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...oman-raped-murdered-her-home-black-youth.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...-racist-attack-15-year-old-girl-leg-cast.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...i-state-univ-student-murdered-last-night.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...a-police-arrest-6-accused-beating-nc-man.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...violence-victim-waiting-phone-call-potus.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...es-home-brutally-assaults-them-wife-dead.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/240770-another-racist-hate-crime.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/240986-13-year-old-boy-rapes-90-year-old-woman.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ld-black-trial-double-murder-white-brits.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...commit-crime-tries-murder-store-security.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...cer-player-brutally-beats-white-opponent.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...o-tried-break-up-underage-drinking-party.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...st-6-blacks-accused-beating-nc-white-man.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ack-leaders-will-speaking-out-about-soon.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/241527-why-isnt-president-barack-obama-denouncing.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...yvon-martin-incident-declare-martial-law.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...-complacence-incompetence-lack-diversity.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...eaten-stripped-wandering-into-black-hood.html

The mods could clean up current events quite a bit by having a section devoted to threads about crimes that are posted solely for racially-motivated reasons.

 

Nope...

All the threads hunting down every crime committed by a Black person following the introduction of this Martin fiasco have been started by the usual suspects...

And there's tons of them...

^^^See above...

toddwv pointed out exactly what I'm getting at...

 

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Of course the offensive post you referred to should have been deleted with appropriate warnings and penalties, and never allowed to foul up the forum with its flagrant disregard for the rules. That it was allowed to stand for so long proves that the moderators either were too busy to notice it, or they agreed with it, or the person didn't report it. It NEVER should have been allowed to remain.

I have found that the manipulation of posts here do sometimes interfere with the right of some posters to practice their freedom of speech, especially when the mods reading them have a definitive political outlook. The mods, disregarding their own political affiliations, should be able to successfully ferret out flagrant racism, trolling, flamebaiting in place of courteous debate.

Mods accomplish this in first sticking together, then deciding on what posts are ripe for discussion, then how that diuscussion is handled. It is important that moderators check any post that gets replies within seconds of posting, and the quality/quantity of replies.

But there is never any excuse, reason, or necessity to bring down this forum by posting blatant racist articles from dubious links...followed by the obvious cultists' racist replies. It is like a moth to a light for racists.

 

I think some people miss the point of forums, there's no such thing as the freedom of speech on a privately run forum.

The mods do not need to tolerate crap like this. However they like many other forums I've run or frequented probably feel like people should be allowed to express themselves, and to a point I agree. But many of these posts, and some have come from both sides are racist and flame bait.

There's also a raft of idiotic one liners from both sides along the lines of "Well you're a "insert political slander here" so your opinion doesn't matter" type of crap that needs to be stopped. That's not meaningful debate, that is just simple childish stuff that I expect from my kids, not from grown adults.

This forum is quickly devolving into a name calling contest, and I'm pretty disappointed.

 

So-called "flamebating" was always a weapon of leftists to silence those who do not agree with.It would be good if this practically punishment for "wrong" thoughts will be not applied.

E.g. I posted here a thread about persecution of whites in South Africa probably two years ago, almost immediately this thread was deleted by one former too partisan "mod" with reason:flamebating. Interesting that every bashing of whites was for this "mod" nothing others as "freedom of speech".

All those who dared to start threads about the true situation of whites in South Africa were either infracted or baned by this "mod". Reason the same: Flamebating. Also, do you dream about a new opportunity for too partisan leftist mods to ban freethinkers again?

 

Ostap, let me disagree with you.
Its not necessarily the subject matter, but a matter of an OP leading to a respectful discussion.

 

Shangrila,

"Flamebating-Rule" almost always silenced all those who had "wrong" thoughts, therefore I prefer the First Amendments instead of it.