So Should We Round Up Christians?

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  1. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    And yet the Bible has both of these books in them.

    And Jesus's purpose is to deliver the message of God.

    So...one half of the holy book is flawed and the other half is sacred? And Christians place more value in the messenger than they do in God himself?

    So...how do we know that the Chroniclers of the NT didn't make the same mistakes as the chroniclers of the OT?
     
  2. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can think anyway you wish sir. It makes no difference to us. We don't have to try and explain God's ways. You maybe right in your belief that there is no God. If you are you have lost nothing.
     
  3. ManifestDestiny

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    Matthew 5:17
    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

    He did not come to get rid of the OT, he came to fulfill it. He says :roll:
     
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    Were you taught that before he was born to Mary.... Jesus and God were the same?
     
  5. TheImmortal

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    Jesus Christ is the Word of God. Of course he can't be incorrect. What are you talking about?

    Christianity is not a political doctrine. It is not a doctrine of nations. Christianity is an individual doctrine. As individuals we are supposed to treat our enemies certain ways. But that's not written for the policy of a country. Especially not one that explicitly declares that it's not Christian.
     
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    So the Old Testament is FALSE.....it is NOT an accurate depiction of God???
     
  7. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    That's correct the portion of the OT that was correct. The 10 commandments. Which is why Jesus quotes them time and again.
     
  8. Gorn Captain

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    So Jesus was NOT a part of the Trinity? He was a separate individual being with his own will?
     
  9. TheImmortal

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    That's correct. God is misrepresented time and again in the OT. Read Matthew 5 and you can see it for yourself.

    That doesn't mean there aren't pieces that are correct but they must be judged upon the doctrine of Jesus Christ.
     
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    Not this liberal
     
  11. Gorn Captain

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    Sadly, that's true, Marine. You will NEVER examine your beliefs critically.
     
  12. Marine1

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    Did Jesus exist before the virgin birth? Or was that God's way of coming before us? I don't have the answer and it really makes no difference to me. As I said before, you can believe there is no God. If you are right, you have lost nothing have you? What have I lost in believing?
     
  13. TheImmortal

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    The bible is written two different ways. We have Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and we have the rest of the bible. The rest of the bible is written from the perspective of a man that God has spoken to and this man interprets what God has told him and attempts to relate that information to other people. But that's not how Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are written. They're written like a biography. The biography of Jesus Christ. Or at least part of his life. They were not writing their own opinions, they were writing down the doctrines, teachings and examples set forth by Jesus Christ.

    This is why you see contradictions in time, places, dates, and orders of events... but there are zero contradictions within the doctrines, teachings and examples set forth by Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
     
  14. TheImmortal

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    That is correct. Hence why in the Garden Jesus asks God... "If it is your will please let this cup pass from me, but not my will, your will be done."

    He makes a clear differentiation between Jesus' will (letting the cup pass from him) and Gods' will which he acknowledges is different.
     
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    considering Christians in the USA are much more violent than Muslims, I'd say yes.

    the number of Christians who engage in violence, rape, murder, far exceeds the number of Muslims
     
  16. Max Rockatansky

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    There are 1.6 Billion Muslims. Are you saying over 1.6 Billion Christians engage in violence, rape and murder?
     
  17. CJtheModerate

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    That makes you more consistent than most.

    Since Christians are 75% of the population, this is not surprising.
     
  18. Ronstar

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    sarcasm, my friend
     
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    ..doesn't work well in text form.
     
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    If they are going to be rounding up Muslims, then the same standards should apply to Christians as well; it ought to be a two-way street to be fair. I must admit, I've yet to hear of anyone calling for the roundup of Muslims, but it wouldn't surprise me if there has been a call for that.
     
  21. Brewskier

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    There are over 70 times more Christians in the country than Muslims. Is that the point you are making?
     
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    We have many people who call themselves Christians but are anything but. Hitler called himself a Christian, but can anyone tell me any of these people were following the words of Christ?
     
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    Yeah, let's start rounding 'em up. Along with the Muslims. Let's find an island and run a high fence down the center and put those hateful Christians on one side and those nasty Muslims on the other. Maybe even arm them so they can kill each other off in the name of their Gods. What a wonderful world it would be. Then we'll let things cool down some before we start on those Jews and Hindus. Look out Buddhists. Blond haired, blue eyed people are suspect. Definitely Blacks and folks of Oriental persuasion. Before you know it, it will just be you and me.....and I got my eye on you.
     
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    the percentage of American Christians committing crimes is surely higher than American Muslims.
     
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    So the Old Testament is false....except where it's true?

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    Do you give the same "pass" to Muslims?

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    Curious you say that....if so? Why do the Right keep claiming that that tiny fraction of Muslims are going to "force Sharia Law" on people who outnumber them 70:1????

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    And again....showing you leave your supposed cherished beliefs....unexamined???
     

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