So Texas is going in the Toilet

Yes, they were stupid early on. But they have things under control now, especially compared to states like TX and FL. Do you have proof NY is responsible for spreading the virus all over the country. If you remember, Washington state was the first epicenter.

 

Ty.

I will compare those projections against real data as the month progresses. The figures seem very agressive, I hope I'm right.

 

Be careful, we can't talk about realities here. Us hayseeds are far too inferior to have an opinion on the elite of the elite. They're super duper intelligent. That's why they didn't sanitize mass transit and put infected people in old folks homes. Then they let the best of the best loot and riot.....you see high IQ leftists are immune from the virus. After they torched Minneapolis, they did the same all around the rest of the country. But toppling statues provides immunity from the china virus as though it seems. That has nothing to do with the spread according to super smart lefties.

 

IMHO it's a no brainer that they contributed to the spread, but it's no big surprise given the logistics we are a mobile society.

I can't say that I blame New Yorkers because frankly if lived in a densely populated area like New York City during a pandemic & I had the financial means, I'm bailing!

 

I live here. We locked down for almost 8 weeks. And yet you still feel entitled enough to comment, negatively, on a process you both didn't live through, or endure yourself. What makes you think you can be authoritative here? It sure seems that if only we had followed your preferences, you certainly feelz that your prescriptions would be more effective. I can tell you given the number of now failed business around here that if folks like you got their way, those numbers would be much higher. And more folks would be out of work, and more businesses would end up failing. Why on earth would you want that? So, essentially, your complaint is then what? not enough folks became bankrupt or otherwise out of work, and the economy didn't suffer enough? What a lovely world you seem to want.

Ill tell you what though. We have folks who are suing Abbot because from their perspective, his actions have directly caused them economic harm, and it seems, well, arbitrary. So places like bars, or recreation businesses have actually been severely hit and hurt by their inability to even open now. And the "oh, it's just a couple of weeks", BS from folks like you is catastrophic then for those folks. And for lots of folks who were fortunate enough to actually not be effected by the shut downs, I see their sympathy reserved for themselves.

As far as "smartly", I cannot fathom what you mean, or who's example you would have us use here. Where? Who? China isn't doing anyone any favors, and they still have an out of control experience internally. They are also, at the same time, destroying Hong Kong. And yet, not a peep nationally, or frankly from folks, like you, who would rather finger wag at governors who thought that making sure folks had jobs and lives again was just too much for your preferences. That seems, unlikely at best, to be a winning conversation for you. If you can stay home, by all means. If you have sufficient income to not suffer, good for you. But for those families that rely on their small businesses to put food on a table for their families, your pejorative comfort won't comfort them. And it is shocking to see someone who says they aren't Lefty to suggest what you do.

 

It is kind of funny how you think its arrogant for folks to make choices you don't support. Cause that isn't arrogant is it?

 

What I found interesting from your site is the projections of deaths per day with and without universal mask usage. There's an eye opener for the anti mask crowd. 120/day vs 11 by October

 

You are confused. The arrogance was in regards to ignoring wearing masks and thinking you could re-open in a reckless way as evidenced by the huge surging numbers you're seeing. I'm all for people making their own choices when it doesn't impact others. If you choose to do something and only hurt yourself I couldn't care less. Rock on. Do what you want. But the choices made by people in states like TX are impacting others...health-wise and business-wise now.

 

No argument there, we have been generally irresponsible from day 1. But that's a long story where Monday morning quarterbacks chime in, myself included.

A 90 day time machine would be quite useful right about now.

 

You keep using words, like reckless, as if that is a way folks here are going to respond positively to. And you continue to choose to call us that. Reckless. So we have cases going up. Our deaths aren't. Why do you suppose that is? Perhaps it is because our governor didn't send sick people to nursing homes that became morgues. Did you call that reckless? I don't recall that when it happen elsewhere. And I will remind you that your voice wan entirely absent when it was folks from NY, NJ , or international travelers flooding our state with infections. They aren't home grown. Where is your consternation about that? Where is your consternation of car loads of out of town agitators who rallied the local BLM protests here? Where is your voice? I see it remarkably absent. And frankly, let's get to the brass tax of this. Our cases in TX didn't spike until those protests happened. Where did the virus come from? It wasn't from here. Who brought it with them? Why don't you castigate those folks?

So, we are reckless here. We shut down for 8 weeks and didn't have cases. So, logic, if we didn't have cases, and we were locked down for almost two months, where oh where did these cases come from? They didn't originate from TX. so start splainin to us where they did come from?

 

Agree, but those figures seemed hyper aggressive to me.

Duly noted: my opinion should be pretty solid because I have zero medical training and know Jack schitt about any of this.

 

Wow, you are on a roll!

 

Its the question no one wants to take on. We get plenty of the "remorse" news stories of course.. The "oh... sniff.... if only our family hadn't gotten together and now we are all infected"... seems to be on the rise here. The obvious question is, how did someone in that group become infected? It had to have come from somewhere. We know families who are now quarantining because one of their college aged kids went to a protest. Likely, no one will die, but that family will be isolating for a couple weeks while they get over it. But they were informed, because of the contact with another person, who, like their kid, also attended that protest.

I'd like for those chastising TX and other states to take a good long hard look at just how those initial infections happened, because they sure as hell didn't come from folks in TX. At some point, we have to consider that folks who travelled to our state were either reckless, or intending to bring the virus here. The latter seems to constitute terrorism. And for those who are now bemoaning the state and its' residents for "effecting others"... where are those full throated condemnations of those states that actually were the incubation labs that effected places like FL or TX? or others/

 

When will Gov Cuomo apologize the the rest of the nation for not adequately quarantining his state and what we now see as the massive failure of his administration to contain the outbreak to NY where it started on the east coast? And when will Gov Newsome do the same as the virus spread from CA, or Inslee for those he allowed to travel outside of Washington state? These are the liberal Democrats who allowed the virus to escape them and infect the nation. When will these governors be held responsible for their reprehensible failures?

 

There's no doubt ... that when we reopened, people started socializing as if the virus didn't exist," Miami Mayor Francis Suarez told ABC This Week.

In Texas, which reported its second highest day of new cases over the weekend, a local leader said the state opened "too early, too much," driving Houston hospitals to surge capacity in recent days.

"Wishful thinking is neither good economic policy, nor good public health policy," Texas Judge Lina Hidalgo said on ABC's "This Week" Sunday. "If we had stayed shut down for longer and opened more slowly, we would probably be in a more sustainable place in our economy."

The announcement came days after the governor himself -- who pushed for one of the most aggressive reopening plans in the country -- shut bars back down.

"If I could go back and redo anything it probably would have been the opening of bars, now seeing in the aftermath how quickly the coronavirus spread in the bar setting," Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has told CNN affiliate KVIA.

Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego told ABC's "This Week" that her state "opened way too early," attributing much of the "explosion" in cases to people between the ages of 20 and 44.

 

That's what happens when you're the major port of entry from all of Europe. You know, the "gateway".

 

Houston....reckless people impacting others...

 

I was referring to current surge numbers. TX was doing well before re-opening too early. This current surge has nothing to do with NY. It’s on TX.

 

Do you find it a burden to put clothes on in order for you to go out in society? Do you find putting on clothes violates your freedoms & liberties?

 

No he won't nor will the rest, rightly so.

State governors don't have the authority to shut down US borders, that's the responsibility of the federal government led by incompetent Republicans and Trumpsters.
When will the president and his administration be held responsible for their reprehensible failures ?

 

Are you asserting that wearing clothing protects folks from a deadly virus?

 

LOL... State governors have all of the authority to effectively quarantine those in their state. Why do you suppose they didn't? More, why didn't they effectively close off their boarders with other states not allowing potentially infected folks from leaving and taking their infections with them?

And that is well within their purview. Didn't Cuomo recently ban folks from TX? on the theory that they brought virus to NY? Those are the facts. So when he was allowing his free flowing fleeing from NY, he was effectively allow the virus to get out and effect everyone around his state, and now the nation. Yes, folks around the nation should hold these governors legally liable for their incompetence and putting the rest of the nation at risk from their failed efforts.

 

Yes, it would. We just have to wait and see. Texas Tribune had an article warning that the next few weeks could have an additional spike, depending how people behaved over 4th of July weekend. The protests have died down with some still happening, but nothing the size of the est. 60,000 in one day early-June in Houston. Bars are closed again, so "the kids" don't have a heck of a lot of opportunity or motivation to romp and play. My prediction is that numbers will drop from here, but as always, my crystal ball stopped working years ago.

 

No. I am asserting that wearing a ****ing mask doesn't violate anyone's freedoms.