So there's this girl...

NOTE TO MUSLIMS: The Shia and Sunni sects could learn something from these posters.

No matter that they think the Mormons are wrong and dum asses and the Mormons probably strive to master their own human emotions by thinking good thoughts about their detractors from another religious group.

Once you can forgive each other and then yourselves you can practice loving the Israelis.

Thanks to the two posters for this teachable moment.

BTW, I used their posts without their prior knowledge.

 

My advice.....Mentally drop the "Religion" portion of this, and focus on the Boy meets Girl part for awhile.

Priorities dude.

 

Tell her this joke:

3 Mormon girls were sitting together in a park. A man comes by and opens his coat, revealing his naked body underneath. The first girl had a stroke, the second girl had a stroke and the third one couldn't reach it.

If she laughs, you're in. If she hits you or calls the cops...meh...

In other words, politely ask her out and see what happens

 

Make a move, don't spend an inordinate amount of time debating back/forth whether or not 'she likes you' - if you like her you should make an initiative

 

Before I can give you advice, I need to know what you want. Are you trying to get physically intimate with her or are you trying to deepen your emotional connection? Or something else?

 

Nonsense. All you have to do is be cooler than Mormonism. Apparently, some people cannot pull this off...

 

Religion can become a show stopper after the endorphins wear off!

I hit it off with a pretty girl in HS (band sweetheart) who pursued me! That was until she, a S. Baptist, found out that I was a Catholic. Then the cold front hit!

Have you been up front about your agnosticism as you have expressed in the religion forum!

Many young couples hit it off and even plan on marriage until the 'Religion' subject comes up, as in what religion are you going to raise the kids.

Think in Mormonism, a woman cant get to heaven (or on a planet) unless she is married to a Mormon man.(??)

 

Mormon girls have been talked about for years!


Lyrics to Salt Lake City :

Brian Wilson (Beach Boys)


Down in Utah
The guys and I dig a city called Salt Lake
It's got the grooviest kids
That's why we never get tired of Salt Lake
And the way the kids talk so cool
Is an out of sight thing
And the number one radio station
Makes the town really swing yeah
Salt Lake City we'll be coming soon

There's a park near the city, yeah
All the kids dig the Lagoon now
It's full of all kinds of girls
And rides and we'll be flyin' there soon now
And girl for girl
They've got the cutest of the Western states
They got the sun in the summer
And winter time the skiing is great yeah
Salt Lake City we'll be coming soon

 

I'd say don't rush into anything, but you're an adult and capable of making those sorts of decisions on your own as is she. Ask her out if you don't think the differences in belief will be a major obstacle...if they are I suppose that will play itself out in due time. You're probably "dangerous:" fruit to her as a non-Mormon and nature takes it's own path sometimes. It's biblical, even Eve was tempted and ate from the tree of knowledge. You may not be "Mr. right" for her, but you could be "Mr. right now."

Depends on what you're looking for, and what she is.

Either way, it's wise to use protection...I'm not condoning it, but as a pragmatist as well as a religious....if you're going down that road, at least be safe about it.

Best of luck.

 

Call her up (or has texting replaced that now?) and see if she wants to do something with you. Just the two of you. You don't have to mention the word 'date' or anything.

 

Go for it man! Before you make the plunge into asking her out on a date, try to get to know her more. Talk to her outside of the church activity, find out what she likes to do, all that fun stuff.

 

Mormon..? And you are not Mormon...?

 

Having been down that road more than once, I just don't see how it can work.

If the other person subscribes to a very specific religion, such as Mormonism, it means they actually believe that (*)(*)(*)(*). If you do not believe that (*)(*)(*)(*), there will be problems down the road when the la la la land wears off.

It just depends on how well you can hold your tongue.

*Little Black Rain Cloud

 

There's something I've really found quite true, and I've seen virtually no exceptions:

If you're dating someone religious, who's actually religious (as in, devoutly, not just something they say like "Oh yeah I'm...Christian" so they can hang out with people at church and don't give it much thought), it almost never works if you don't change your religion. Religion is a very personal thing to people, and rejecting it is seen as a personal insult. I never got far with religious women because I always use some excuse, at some point, to hint at the fact I'm atheist, then watch how they bite; a pre-emptive strike, if you will, to see if we can get along. If they show that they're devout, we don't go much further, because if they take the hint and question me, I will flat out state I think their beliefs are bull(*)(*)(*)(*), and that ends everything.

 

From a Mormon website.

If she's a "practicing" Mormon it presents a direct conflict to marry a non-Mormon.

The question is, how devout of a Mormon is she really.

I know lots of Catholics who when asked will openly state..."I'm Catholic."
Yet they don't attend Mass regularly, in many cases have had an abortion, openly support gay marriage, etc...direct contradictions to the tenets of the faith.

I call them "cafeteria" Catholics. They pick and choose from the tenets of the Church.

One foot in the secular World and one foot in the Church.

Safe to assume that many are agnostics, but follow the faith more as a social exercise than a religious.

There are probably more than a few Mormons who are like that also, but on the whole, Mormons impress me as adhering to faith and not falling away as so many Catholics have done.

It's a simple question you have to ask yourself, do you believe in the tenets of the faith?

Whatever it may be...
Catholic, Mormon, Jewish, Muslim...

If you don't, then leave the faith...declare yourself as areligious.

Off topic comments, I just wanted to vent.

Kudos to Wolverine's post, which included a visual aid.

Humorous and effective!

 

Look, you're just asking her out. I think discussing marriage is a little premature

She may see you as "forbidden fruit", as was pointed out, and thus be attracted.

She may even want to sow some wild oats.

Perhaps you should run for political office, then you can text her a picture of your junk and see what happens.

(Seriously, just ask her out nicely. )

 

Same here. lol

 

I don't understand why someone would date someone with ardent beliefs that are fundamentally opposed to theirs.

Just like if a meat eater was dating someone in PETA.- why would you want to sleep with someone who thinks you're as evil as Jeffery Dahmer just for eating a burger. (And why would you want to sleep with someone who has no problem with sleeping with Jeffery Dahmer?) lol

 

I've been reading a little more on Mormonism since I've been participating in this thread. It dawned, even if I wanted to convert...it seems a requirement is marriage.
Being very set in my ways and accepting of the fact I'll die single, a high probability of same...Mormon's would reject me in their version of heaven.

"oh look there's Herk down there roasting in Hell, poor guy never could find a wife"

You're not complete until you marry.

Yeah this girl, facing the prospect of eternal marriage in life and in the after life...probably wants to sow a few oats and taste life on the "other" side.

That's my psychological analysis of it anyway...

Poor thing, does she know she is being discussed on the internet?

While anonymous, maybe it's still best to not "overshare" too much when it's a discussion about someone who is not a direct party and has given no consent for having personal matters aired on an "eternal" internet.. Out of respect for her, I'm gonna bow out of this thread hence forth.

 

The Carville/Matalin union seems to be doing fine.

Not everybody lives their lives in total keeping with their politics, or their religion

Remember two old sayings:

Faint heart ne'er won fair lady

The saddest words, of speech or pen, consist in these, 'what might have been'.

 

That's a 1 in a million (10 million) situation. Listening to Carville on TV lately he sounds more 'moderate'--looks like life w/Mary and an 'old man with a head is Conservative' progression has worn off on him. But like most public talking heads who want to get paid for public speaking and being labeled a 'party strategist,' they have to play the game.

Marriage is tough enough if 2 ppl have most things in common; but things like politics (if both are highly ideological) and religion (or just denomination differences) are heavy hitters as far as stress on a marriage. Ppl who over look such things are just postponing trouble down the line...again, after the endorphins wear off..usually in about 1 year!

BTW: listen to Wolverine---he has been there and knows the futility of 'unequal yoking with believers.'

 

So I saw her again last night at the church meeting. The majority of everyone was dressed up for Halloween as well as myself, so it was an interesting sight. She was dressed as "Little Red Riding Hood," and she looked really cute in the dress that she was wearing.

After the service was over, we all went trick or treating. Aside from getting candy, I talked to her a lot and we had a few good conversations. When it was time to go back, I gave her a big hug before she got in her car, and I got a little turned on.

So it looks like things are slowly progressing with her, so I'm happy with that.

 

Well, good 'luck' remembering that endorphins wear off! Then the 'little' things become bigger....

 

Pun intended? lmao

 

You just ruined my Dr. Phil moment...<sniff>