So you think Netanyahu's plan to bomb Rafah is a good idea?

If you think the "why" is anything other than it being an election year and the dire need for Biden to win Michigan, then you are detached from reality.

 

In our eyes it lies with Hamas, but in the eyes of the Gaza residents, and Arabs in general eyes it lies with Israel, and possibly also those who are helping them. Having an opinion about who is to blame won't stop the terrorists from targeting Israel and their allies.

Hamas doesn't reside only in Gaza, but also in West Bank, and many Arab countries in the region, - Egypt, Qatar, Lebanon etc.

 

Are you serious? Why would you want a quote of praise to Biden? Read the OP. The WHOLE OP.

What an absurd demand!

 

And it works! People "like myself" who believe that nothing justifies killing innocent people... that NOTHING justifies killing thousands of children... will demand a DIFFERENT solution every time.

If you were trying to shame me that sure backfired, didn't it! It's the people who care more about POLITICS than human life that should be ashamed of themselves.

 

I wouldn't give you any of the credit for my response, except it provided an opportunity to address the falsehoods of it. And no, not all Palestinians aren't all in Rafa... What a ridiculous statement.

So, let's explore this theory of yours. So, Russia is supporting the oppressed peoples in the Ukraine (it's about as accurate as your description of Hamas and Gaza...) and yet, you aren't demanding a two state agreement in the Ukraine. Golly, the obvious hypocrisy of your bleeding heart....

And should the US not provide the bombs, and Israel has a pretty big check book, do you really want them going to say Russia, or China for them? Which poison is worse for you?

 

How many children do you think live in a city block in one of the most densely populated areas in the world.

And an even better alternative would be to not use ANY type of bombs. But if Netanyahu is such a psycho that he decides to use them anyway, the most important thing is that WE weren't the facilitators.

 

Not with the US unless WE provide the bombs to carry out a massacre. Biden is doing the right thing.

 

It seems to me that trying to stay in power by saving the life of children and innocent people is preferable to trying to stay in power by inciting a mob to kill cops, lawmakers and the VP.

 

The "why" is because it is an election year and he desperately needs to win Michigan.

There is not any other "why" involved here.

 

Of course not! That's what the OP says. You didn't read it.

 

Israel does not really need us for Rafah.
Hamas (and only Hamas) have always had the capability to stop the killing via surrender.
Biden risks falling between two stools: not hard enough on Israel to satisfy Palestinians, and not staunch enough as an ally to satisfy the Israelis.
Hamas desperately want to be bailed out from generations of political foolishness and military incompetence. After 7 October, the Israelis are not inclined to oblige.

 

Good for him! Now we know he DESERVES to win Michigan.

 

But your claim of the "why" was different.

I guess you now agree with me. The "why" is not what you claimed. You were making Biden out to be a saint, but as it turns out, he was just a politician screwing over a close ally because he thinks it might help him stay in power.

 

Then it makes even MORE sense that Biden doesn't want us involved in the carniage...

 

All Biden has done is to ensure that both sides, and their advocates in the US, will think less of him after it's over.

 

The WHY he doesn't want to give Netanyahu bombs is that he doesn't want us involved in the carniage. The WHY he doesn't want us involved in the carniage is... whatever you want it to be (I don't care).

I know it's difficult for somebody who can only see the world in two dimensions to understand a three-dimensional world... But the rest of us don't have the time to stand around waiting for you to catch up.

 

I'm afraid yours is the simplistic view. Do you understand that in Riyadh, Cairo, Amman and Kuwait every bomb dropped on Hamas is cheered?

 

It's true that people usually don't get credit for doing the right thing when doing the right thing is NOT doing the wrong thing. That make it even more laudable. Because if you're right, that means he does the right thing without expecting recognition.

 

"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
--Prince Talleyrand

I suspect that goes, too, for this claim of "doing the right thing."

 

So, you raise the issue - what's your answer?

My thought is there are no black or white answers to this question. It's easy for us, thousands of miles away and relatively secure from that horrendous violence and inhumanity that started this. Hamas's stated purpose it to rid the area of Jews; "river to sea" is pretty clear, as is what they're willing to do to accomplish it. It like if you're infected with a deadly virus - when would you feel safe?

It seems to me there is no absolute right answer. As with most human problems either path will have serious repercussions. An overpowering bombardment of Rafah may damage Hamas for a time but inspire future terrorists to seek revenge; a hesitancy to crush Hamas increases Israel's vulnerability to more violences.

 

It would not be so bad, if you would condemn Hamas for putting the Palestinians in that position.

And then let Hamas wipe out the entire Israeli population of over nine million people. It all comes back to Hamas who started this war and whose goal is to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.

 

Bingo.

 

So... is your position that we should ENCOURAGE the cheering, even if it means children die? Maybe Netanyahu wants to keep people in Riyadh, Cairo, Amman and Kuwait entertained by bombing them more....

 

My answer to everything is always do everything possible to AVOID killing the innocent. Especially children.

Read the OP! You could NUKE every inch of Palestine, and you wouldn't "crush" Hamas. All you would accomplish would be to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people... almost half of them children.

On a separate question: Why do folks on the right have this tendency to respond to a post they haven't read?

 

And specifically what does that mean?

I did read the OP. Not quite as brilliant and informative as you obviously think. "do everything . . ." is weak sauce.

You're still speaking in glittering generalities and slogans

I did read the OP; As I said there's no "there" there. You don't provide the answer you want your readers to provide.[/quote]