Some Questions/Thoughts about the "Fight for 15" Minimum Wage Increases

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  1. Ming the Merciless

    Ming the Merciless Newly Registered

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    Does the "fight for 15" (as in $15 an hour) include raising the wages paid to migrant workers?

    One of the main arguments re: bringing in immigrant laborers seems to be that they are the ones who will be willing to "pick the fruit and mow the lawns."

    I think there may be a logical problem here. If the minimum wage is increased to $15 across the board, regular Americans (or whatever country you may be in) would presumably be willing to pick the fruit and mow the lawns. At which point, isn't the argument that we need migrants to do these jobs defused because now the natives are willing to do them?

    On the other hand, let's assume that the fight for $15 an hour does not include migrant workers and jobs usually done by immigrants. Excuse my French but that sounds kind of shitty to me: "Everyone is worth $15 an hour except for immigrants!" I'm going to guess then that this is not a position any leftists would take.

    So, doesn't the "fight for 15" undermine common leftist arguments re: bringing in more immigrants?
     
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    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Generally yes I would think so but then I would argue what is wrong with Americans who are fit then not taking these jobs it would pay a living wage, I would tell those on welfare to go work on farms seasonally or lose benefits for refusing to work. I would do it now but the government has no balls to do so. The State is a powerful institution and should act as needed to get people off of its coffers and even better these jobs don't need much education so even drop outs can do them with some training the government could provide.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All a $15 an hour minimum wage will do is:

    1. Move people currently making $15 into poverty
    2. Make people lose jobs
    3. Make people get less hours
    4. Make it even less possible for those with no experience (that minimum wage jobs are DESIGNED for) unable to get a job

    Minimum wage jobs are not SUPPOSED to be a wage for 30 year olds with 3 kids.
     
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