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    There have been so many lies and misinformation on South African History, I have decided to post parts of the best work I could find on the topic.

    The source is Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box, a document published by “Mike Smith” clearly a highly knowledgeable scholar with intimate knowledge of South African history, who wanted to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. The sources he used to create the work is within the document and can be cross-referenced. Apartheid is a taboo topic, however I think the time has come to Open Pandora’s Box, because fake atrocities are being made up to justify the killing of white people in South Africa today, let me put this in perspective for you.

    During the 40 years of Apartheid, The Human Rights Commission found that there were 21,000 political deaths, 90% of these were committed by the ANC in their campaign to fuel unrest, 3% by the Apartheid government and 0.5% by the right wing. Yet there are many people in the west walking around thinking the Apartheid government committed genocidal level crimes. It is the lie created by the media and the Globalists (more on that later in this series)

    The work is Politically INCORRECT, I also admit to making minor changes to some paragraphs and phrases where I feel the work was too brutal and frank for the western mentality, who have never had to confront violence on this scale and nature.

    Let's Begin

    http://www.terra-bellum.com/introduction-opening-pandoras-apartheid-box/

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    The Diversity of South Africa’s People

    What “diversity” means in South Africa. By Mike Smith 23rd of April 2010
    Nobody can understand Apartheid unless they understand the diversity of the people of South Africa. Let us start with the whites. In South Africa there are several groups of whites.

    The Whites
    The two main groups are the Afrikaans speaking and the English speaking ones. The Afrikaners are the descendants from mainly Dutch, Flemish, French, German and some other Western European backgrounds. The Afrikaners have a unique culture, their own language and they are mostly protestant.

    The English speaking whites of South Africa are from mostly British background. They are made up of English, Scots, Welsh and Irish descendants…as well as a large contingent of ex Rhodesians. These English speaking Whites of South Africa can today not be referred to as British anymore. Very few hold British passports. They developed a unique accent and culture in South Africa and are fully South African today. Their forefathers came to South Africa long before there were any Whites in Australia or New Zealand.

    South Africa also has other large white communities such as the Portuguese (300,000), the Greek (+/- 100,000) and the Jewish communities (70,000). They all have their own religions and cultures.

    The Portuguese are mostly Catholic, the Greeks are orthodox Christians and the Jews are mostly orthodox Jewish. Further, South Africa has a Chinese population who arrived around 1870 to work in the gold mines until Chinese immigration was stopped by an exclusion act in 1904. The South African Chinese community is about 300,000 strong.

    The Coloureds (Khoi Khoi or Hottentot)
    The Cape coloureds are also diverse and complex from a wide variety of backgrounds. Today there are the two main groups, Christians and Muslims. There is about 4 million coloureds in total. It is commonly understood by most foreigners and also amongst many South Africans, that the coloureds are a mixture of Black and White ancestors. This is false. The coloureds as a group existed long before the Whites saw any Blacks for the first time around 1770 in the Eastern Cape about 1000km from Cape Town. This was 120 years after the Dutch settled at the Cape (1652). The indigenous people of the Cape were the Khoi Khoi(Hottentots). They were almost 90% annihilated by a smallpox epidemic at the Cape (1703).

    Cape Malay
    The Dutch also imported artisans such as bricklayers, carpenters, etc from Malaysia and Indonesia. These were the Muslims or Cape Malay people. The KhoiKhoi and the Cape Malay also intermarried and interbred. A small percentage of Whites also married coloureds, but it was actually very rare. A large amount of the passing sailors frequented coloured prostitutes. Today the Cape Coloured features vary from dark brown to almost White or yellow and their hair vary from peppercorn curly to straight black. Some have KhoiKhoi features and some Arabic or Malaysian. Today the Muslim and Christian coloureds have distinct and different cultures. Some speak a dialect of Afrikaans and some English.

    Indian
    In Natal we find most of South Africa’s Indian population. They total about one million and are descendants of indentured labourers (for the sugar cane plantations) and traders from India and Sri Lanka. They speak mostly English, but many still speak Tamil, Hindi or Urdu. Their religion is mostly Hindu but many are Muslim.

    Black Tribes
    So far I have not even started with the blacks yet. Most foreigners believe that South Africa has one group of Blacks that speak one language and have one culture. Nothing could be further from the truth. South Africa’s Black population is not homogenous. There are several different tribes who all speak different languages and who have distinct and hugely different cultures.

    There are main tribes such as the Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Venda, Ndebele, Sotho, Swazi and the Shangaan/Tsonga people. But it does not stop there, because these main tribes consist of smaller tribes.

    For instance the Xhosas are made up of Mpondo, Fingo, Thembu, Bhaca, Nhlangwini and Xesibe tribes. The Sothos are made up of North Sotho (Bapedi) and South Sotho (Basotho) tribes. The Tswanas are only a part of the main tribe known as the West Sotho. Other tribes that make up the West Sotho are the Kwena, Kgatla, Tlhaping, Tlharo, Rolong and Ngwato.

    The Venda tribe is made up of mainly the Mphephu and the Lemba, but in total the Vavenda can be bordered off into 27 clearly distinguishable tribes.

    The Zulus are made up of about 200 smaller tribes The Swazis are made up from the Nkosi, Shongwe, Khumalo and Hhlatyawako tribes. The Northern Sothos are made up from the Pedi, Koni, Phalaborwa, Lobedu and Kutswe tribes…. And so I can go on…All in all South Africa has nine official Black languages, with 23 sub categories and innumerable dialects. Yes, these different tribes of South Africa all have different languages, cultures and belief systems.

    The Vendas for instance have a special affinity to crocodiles. The Zulus consider themselves as a warrior tribe and they do not circumcise their boys when they are initiated into manhood, they have to kill a bull with their bare hands. The Xhosas on the other hand do circumcise their boys and therefore Xhosas consider Zulus as mere boys regardless of their age. When a Xhosa and a Zulu work together and they have words, the Xhosa will first and always accuse a Zulu of being a boy, thus not a man.

    Another remarkable piece of information that very few people know about is that the Lemba people who form part of the Venda tribe are JEWISH. No. They did not convert to Judaism after meeting some Jewish immigrants to South Africa. President Kruger found them already with their Jewish belief system going back more than two thousand years. They migrated from the Kenya or Ethiopian regions. South Africa’s black Jews.

    From Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box


    http://www.terra-bellum.com/the-diversity-of-south-africas-people/
     
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    The Violent Nature of Africa (Mod's please feel free to censor where you feel there are too much violence and it is too politically incorrect for the western mindset)

    Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box – Part 3 – The violent nature of Africa.

    Anyone who knows the history of South Africa will know that nobody suffered more on the soil of South Africa, no one has bled as much as the Afrikaners and their descendants the Boers.

    The Afrikaners have a song that is taught to all Afrikaans kids from the crib and that every Afrikaner today knows. The name of this song is called, “Siembamba”. The lyrics are so heavy that I almost do not want to repeat it here. But it goes like this,

    “Siembamba, mama se kindjie,
    Siembamba, mama se kindjie –
    -draai sy nek om, gooi hom in die sloot;
    trap op sy kop dan is hy dood.”

    For our international readers I will freely translate and then explain.

    “Siembamba, mommies little child,
    Siembamba, mommies little child, –
    -Wring his neck, throw him in the ditch,
    Step on his head, then he is dead…”

    Believe it or not…this is a song Afrikaans people sing to their children while rocking them to sleep!

    It records the brutality of the Xhosas who would indiscriminately kill white women and white babies during the nine Kaffir wars (The Unbeliever Wars)

    A common myth amongst foreigners and South Africans alike is that they think that before the White man came to Africa, Blacks lived in peace and harmony with nature and with each other. This harmony with nature is not entirely wrong. It is the perception of “In harmony with nature” that is misunderstood.

    People want to believe that nature is pure and good and that the lion lies with the lamb, but reality is far removed from that. When one sees how hyenas tear a live animal apart, how a praying mantis bites the head off her mate after copulation how the Streptococcus bacteria can destroy human flesh, one is left with a feeling that nature can be very cruel. Nature amongst African blacks have always been very cruel.

    Blacks who supposedly lived in tune with nature were regularly eaten by lions, crocodiles, bitten by snakes, stung by scorpions and their numbers controlled by insects like the mosquito (Malaria) or the Tsetse fly(sleeping sickness). Yellow fever and Cholera were other forms of nature to control the numbers of Blacks…

    But it has to be said that before the white people came to Africa, the most effective way Blacks controlled their own populations were with genocidal tribal wars…and cannibalism.

    Amongst the Black communities it is not allowed for individuals to show ingenuity or individualistic prosperity. The moment one Black person starts to rise a little above the others, he will be the first one to be hammered down by the community like a nail in a wooden floor. Those who do prosper are ostracised by their black tribes and it will be said of them that they are not real blacks that they are whites with a black skin…

    That mentality still persists to this day, but this envy is accompanied with an inextinguishable, brutality that the whites of Africa came face to face with and learned about the hard way. Ever since the white man set foot on South African soil, he has been shocked and horrified at the brutality of Africa.

    Blacks of central Africa sold other blacks they have conquered into slavery to Arabs, other black tribes and also to whites. The moment one tribe had a bit more than the others, they would be prone to a nocturnal raid by neighbouring tribes who would kill all the men, rape the women and children, steal the cattle and incorporate the women and children into their own tribes.

    Tribes who were not strong enough would flee the area. In sub Saharan Africa it meant that nobody wanted to flee north, because they knew it was a desert where they could not survive. So the only way was to flee south. The weakest of the weakest tribes were right in the front, followed by a slightly stronger tribe, followed by ever increasing stronger tribes further north, driving the weaker ones south.

    Roundabout the same time that whites first settled in South Africa, black tribes first entered South Africa. They were contemporary settlers of the area now known as South Africa. In some areas whites were the first and in others, blacks were the first. Blacks moving South and Whites moving north looking for better grazing for their cattle eventually met at the Fish and the Kei rivers around 1770…About 120 years after the Whites first (permanently) settled at the Cape of Good Hope in 1652 .

    To put it into perspective, it was about the same time as New York was founded in the USA. Who were these Blacks they met at the Fish River? They were the Xhosa. The Xhosa were fleeing from the Zulus who murdered them en masse. Even until today the word or name “Xhosa” in Zulu is synonymous with the word “coward”. The animosity between the Xhosas and the Zulus goes back hundreds of years. Mandela and Mbeki, the two previous presidents were both Xhosas, but the current president, Jacob Zuma is a Zulu.

    Zulus and Xhosas hate each other more than they hate whites and that says a lot. But why do the other Blacks of South Africa hate the Zulus? It goes back to “King” Shaka. Note I put “King” in inverted commas. Blacks can never be kings of any kind…before one can be a King, one should first be a MAN. Shaka committed genocide on a larger scale than Rwanda has ever seen. The Zulus wiped out entire tribes, entire cultures in what is today known as the Mfecane or Dfecane (Annihilation). Shaka’s terror was so great that Mzilikazi, the chief of the Matabeles fled BACK NORTH…direction where Zimbabwe is today.

    Amongst all this chaos arrived the White man in the region of the Xhosas. They fought nine “Wars” against the Xhosa between 1811 and 1879. The Frontier Wars, Kaffir wars or Xhosa wars Every time the wars were about Xhosas stealing cattle and other livestock, burning down homesteads, killing not only white farmer families in the most horrific torturing ways, but also the coloureds who worked for the whites.

    It was at the time of the sixth Kaffir war that Piet Retief decided to trek with the other Voortrekkers. Piet Retief and his party thought they could negotiate and buy land from the Zulus, but they were massacred on a hill at the kraal of the Zulu King, Dingaan when they respected the wishes of Dingaan to leave their weapons outside. Every man and boy, around 100 in total, were clubbed to death. Retief was the last to be killed, so as to witness the death of his comrades.

    Dingaan then ordered all Voortrekker laagers to be attacked along the Bushman’s River. An orgy of violence started. Families were camped at Bloukrans, Dorinkop, Moordspruit, etc. Blacks would attack them during the middle of the night, killing everyone in the most horrific ways. Women were brutally gang raped and pregnant women were cut open, their babies killed in front of them while they still lived. Small children and babies were picked up by their feet and their heads smashed against the sides of the wagons.

    Among the Voortrekkers , 41 men, 56 women and 185 children were killed. In addition another 250 or 252 Khoikhoi and Basuto that accompanied the Voortrekkers were killed. A girl called Johanna van der Merwe (12 years old at the time) sustained 21 assegai wounds, but managed to survive. The Voortrekkers built the town Weenen (meaning wailing) at the site. The Bloukrans Massacre.

    Boers retaliated at Makapansgat where blacks savagely murdered whites in the most horrific ways. Hermanus Potgeter was tied down to a rock bed and skinned alive like an animal while still conscious, he died while the blacks ripped his organs out.

    More lately we saw the brutal black on black murders with the necklace method . We saw blacks storming into white churches with AK 47’s and hand grenades, opening fire on the unarmed congregation such as at the St James Church massacre. We have seen everything from brutal Muti murders to the evil torture preceding the brutal killings of White farmers and their family members in Rhodesia, Namibia and also in South Africa, most of the time nothing stolen. More than 3000 White farmers and family members murdered to date since the ANC took over in 1994. It is necessary to reiterate that this violent nature of blacks are not directed at whites only, so the black behaviour apologetics who claim that this behaviour is retribution for wrongs committed by whites against blacks, have no leg to stand on, because most often than not this black violent nature is directed at their own kind as we have seen with Shaka’s defecane, Muti murders and necklacing.

    It is important to realise that whites in South Africa never wanted to rule blacks. Whites wanted to separate from blacks and stay as far away from blacks as possible.

    From, Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box

    http://www.terra-bellum.com/the-violent-nature-of-africa/
     
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    Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box – Part 4 – Black South African culture

    By Mike Smith 27 April 2010

    I find it rather amusing that the cultural relativists wants to tell us that all cultures are equal and that no culture is better or higher than another, but these same cultures rejects the notion of equality outright.

    In South Africa Black men are polygamous. They can marry as many women as they can afford. When a black man walks down the street, his wife is lucky if he allows her to walk five paces behind him. Most of the time he tells her to go walk on the other side of the street and a few paces behind him.

    Although black women can vote in official government elections, on a tribal level they have no political say and are not allowed to even sit amongst men least raise an opinion.

    I said that a black can have as many wives as he can afford. That does not mean that he has to work and look after his wives. Quite the contrary. Traditionally the women do all the work in black culture.

    Black men buy their women and pays for them in cows in a system known as “Lobola”. It starts with five cows and then the two families barter a price. The price is dependent on her social status, whether she is still a virgin or already has a child, what education she has, etc. The daughter of a chief is worth around twenty cows, but normally the price is kept down to between five and ten cows for ordinary women. Once married the woman is chattel and becomes the possession of the man, to breed and beat as he feels fit.

    The Xhosas practice what is called, uKetwala (the hunting down of a young girl and raping her to make her his wife) Missionaries from Europe have tried to convert the Blacks to Christianity ever since the whites first set foot on African soil. These missionaries came across people who believed in the powers of their dead ancestors, rather than that of a deity. Just about all civilisations had deities of some sort, but it was absent amongst blacks in South Africa.

    These missionaries saw the results of intonjane (female initiation) and ukwaluka (boy’s circumcision and initiation into manhood) where some boys were lucky to live after their penises fell off due to gangrene, etc.. They struck up compromises in the hope to later convert the blacks, but even after their best attempts the best they achieved was that blacks accepted Christianity as an addition to their tribal religions and beliefs, not as a replacement. Blacks continue to practice their traditional beliefs in parallel with Christianity up until this very day.

    No Xhosa will ever be accepted as a man if he as a last resort to save his life, went to a western hospital during the circumcision period. The Zulus initiation into manhood is called ukeshwama. A group of boys have to kill a bull with their bare hands. They pull out his tongue, stuff dirt down his throat, squeeze his testicles till it burst and then finally wring his neck by gripping the horns until his neck snaps. They also have to tear meat from the carcass with their bare hands and eat it raw.

    The cultural practice westerners find most unacceptable amongst blacks in South Africa and Africa in general has to be “Muti-murders”. One just has to make an internet search or a search on a news site like IOL for “Muti-murders”. Muti means “medicine”. It is made from plants or animal organs, but the most powerful muti is made from human body parts, harvested while the person is still alive. Everything from sexual organs to hands, lips, ears and other organs are cut from victims of all ages while they are still alive, including young children and babies.

    Some will say that these are a few dissident Sangomas (traditional healers) who practice “muti-murders”, but the shear amount of these killings tells us that there are huge markets of believers amongst the black communities which drive these killings.

    Blacks further believe in the “Tokoloshe”, a hairy goblin-like creature with a huge penis, who is sent by the Sangoma to attack them if they have done something wrong.

    Blacks believe that sex with a virgin will cure AIDS. This has resulted in horrific rapes of babies as young as six months. Black men rape lesbians, to “correct” them. It is called by the media, “corrective rapes”.

    The information is today freely available on the internet and in books.

    http://www.terra-bellum.com/black-south-african-culture/
     
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    Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box – Part 5 – By Mike Smith 27 April 2010

    Black South African Literacy Pre and During Apartheid

    Blacks from South Africa never invented the wheel, never had any written languages, no dug-out canoes, let alone ships. Their dwellings were single roomed shelters and made from sticks and grass. They had no woven cloth and were wearing animal skins. They had no maps and no borders. They had an ancestral belief system and their tribal laws were held and changed by “elders” at will after drinking their tribal beer/brew.

    They were nomadic cattle herders that never permanently settled in one place for too long. They hardly grew crops and if so, it were small patches of subsistence maize introduced by the whites who brought it back from South America, the only place where it grew and existed.

    Yes that is right. Maize, which is today the staple food of all Blacks throughout the entire Africa, comes from South America and was introduced to blacks by white European settlers.

    Blacks do not farm nor use the principle of irrigation, and have never built any dams. When a slight drought occurs one year all their crops fail and they starve. Whites in South Africa developed commercial farming into a science and built universities such as Elsenburg at Stellenbosh …yet every white commercial farm that was handed over to blacks failed, even after vast amounts of money was thrown at them, training was given and the most modern implements bought for them by the government.

    This tragedy is documented in a book by Dr. Phillip du Toit called, The Great South African Land Scandal . Dr du Toit has made his book available online, free of charge.

    The black (Zulu) historian and Shaman, Credo Mutwa in his book, “My People” (1969). Credo says that blacks never had any written language so they have no written history. Their history is passed down orally from Sangoma to Sangoma. See, the Sangoma is not only the traditional healer, he is also the preserver of the oral history, the tribal laws and the ancient rituals and customs of the blacks. He explains that blacks have an excellent memory that they drill from childhood through stories, rhymes and songs. To remember detail they use what we would call “memory association”. For instance, Credo Mutwa says that the blacks have a huge respect for the late president of the ZAR, Paul Kruger. President Kruger had an ability to mimic the sounds of all birds through whistling. Even till this day the township of Mamelodi east of Pretoria, capital city of the ZAR and South Africa is named after Paul Kruger, the whistler. His statue stands on Church Square in Pretoria.

    Today much is being said about Black education under Apartheid, but the truth is that in 1987 at the height of Apartheid, six million black children were at school, a new record for South Africa at the time.

    In the previous year 1800 classrooms for secondary education were built by whites, with white money for blacks. About 130 new schools were built. If one considers the schools burnt down by blacks at the same time the education standards of blacks could have been even higher.

    At the time black South Africans had the highest literacy rate amongst other blacks on the entire continent. Blacks had eight universities in South Africa producing lawyers, doctors, teachers, etc of world standard. None of those people would say today that their education and degrees are of an inferior standard. Quite the contrary, they are extremely proud of their education they underwent during Apartheid. Telling them that their education was “Sub standard” would be insulting them.

    As I have mentioned before, South Africa was a world leader in medical science during Apartheid and established a unique Medical university called MEDUNSA which produced amongst others on average 200 black doctors per year. MEDUNSA also trained nurses and other medical staff.

    The most amazing thing is that no matter how well Blacks are educated, they never let go of their superstitious believes in the Tokoloshe, Muti witchcraft and ancestor worship. Blacks who hold high positions today such as ministers in parliament or judges…blacks who are engineers, still consult the witchdoctor on a regular basis. Blacks still run around and attack everyone, including their own with pangas.

    We have to realise that our cultures will never be compatible. Just as the Boers never wanted to rule over the Blacks, the Boers will NEVER accept blacks ruling over them. The previous National Party government was not stupid. They never took any decisions without thoroughly investigating all options. They studied the Swiss Canton system and the Belgium model with the Flemish and Walonians …No system could be compared to the unique South African situation. Apartheid was not the only option. There were others to consider like the Stalinist option of just exterminating all opposition in their millions. But BJ Voster asked us to accept the reforms, because the other options were just too ghastly to comprehend for the pious Whites of South Africa.

    http://www.terra-bellum.com/black-south-african-literacy-pre-and-during-apartheid/
     
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    Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box – Part 6 Black south African Customs By Mike Smith 30th of April 2010

    So far I have only scratched the surface and told the reader about the more common practices and customs of Blacks such as, Lobola (buying wives with cows), the initiation rituals of boys and girls, witchcraft, superstition, muti-murders, raping babies to cure AIDS, etc.

    Credo Mutwa’ book “My People-The writings of a Zulu witch-doctor”. (1969) ISBN 014003210X

    The book is extremely rare and few people know about it. It is not even mentioned on the Wikipedia page of Credo Mutwa. It is a fascinating book, giving you insight into the various traditions of black South Africans of various tribes, their beliefs, their superstitions, their customs and their mindset.

    Credo is the most respected Sangoma and Sunusi in the whole of South Africa. He is a traditional healer, a black historian and an authority on traditional customs and beliefs of the black tribes of Africa. If one has to compare him to Christianity, then Credo Mutwa would be the pope of traditional healers.

    He mentions several practices such as the Black law of infanticide when twins are born. This practice is still carried on today. Think about it…look around you…how many black twins have you seen in South Africa? “The law requires that if a woman gives birth to twins, one must be destroyed by having a round pebble pushed down its throat. But in the case of triplets, one must die and two must live” “My People”, Chapter 10, Pg. 218 So the few “twins” we see amongst blacks were actually triplets of which one was killed.

    Blacks also killed their own wounded soldiers “The wound would fester and sooner or later the patient would die. Even small gaping wounds spelt a write-off of the patient; large mPanga slashes were regarded as fatal at the outset and warriors thus wounded were given a mercy death.

    Many battle axes were furnished with special ‘dispatchers’ for this purpose.” “My people” Chapter 11, pg. 234.

    Credo Mutwa in his book, “My people”, (1969) chapter ten. “Xhosa women also prepare mysterious potions to secure their husbands to them, so that they will not be forsaken. This potion is prepared as follows: The woman refrains from taking a bath for several days, and then rubs the body dirt off her skin in little rolls. To this she adds the hair she has shaved off her private parts. Then follows ground Bangalala root which, when mixed with milk, is a violent aphrodisiac. The recipe may also include the powdered dry petals of a sunflower, a little spittle, and a piece of sandlewood. The whole concoction is then heated in a bowl until red hot and thus reduced to ashes. These ashes are then stirred into the milk of a nanny goat which had a deformed kid, until a thick putty is formed. This is then rolled into little balls or pills, which are added one at a time to the husband’s food.”

    “My People”, Chapter ten, pg. 213.

    http://www.terra-bellum.com/black-south-african-customs/
     
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    The only thing less surprising than the unreconstructed racism approvingly reproduced on this thread is the popularity of this publication on the forum of choice of white supremacists - stormfront. Mr Google produces 2 pages worth of references to the book on that disgraceful forum. I imagine that a trawl through similar internet cesspits would produce similarly enthusiastic endorsements.

    Perhaps it is true that people do gravitate to their own kind. I look forward to seeing what kind of flies it attracts around here.

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...r=&hl=en&as_qdr=all&filter=0&biw=1280&bih=625
     
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    Apartheid was actually designed to ensure full employment of whites whose poverty was an endemic problem in South Africa. The causes of the poor white problem were the inadequate education system, urbanisation, cheap wages or cultural factors, while external events such as the rinderpest disease or the Anglo-Boer war added to the numbers of poor whites.

     
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    No believe me... first it was designed to prevent genocide... to separate the tribes who have never stopped fighting. The problem is how do you tell the rest of the world the truth when all they'll do is yell RACIST! You can't

    I will deal with all the misinformation of unemployed and underpaid blacks... I believe I already posted some information in my previous post...

    again... Apartheid did more for Black development than any other nation for their black populations. No more lies

    vvv this is only a fraction of it
     
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    They'll simply ignore anything that doesn't fit their perspective, as we just saw.

    Reality itself must bend to the leftist desire for social justice.
     
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    Yeah it's just racism.

    https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/muti-killings-is-a-way-of-life-in-rural-areas-470603
     
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    I find people confuse Segregation with Apartheid. Segregation was already there before Apartheid, it was left behind by the British.

    Apartheid was "Separate Development", the Homeland system of separating the tribes, giving them their own territories and allowing them to govern over themselves. Apartheid simply didn't dismantle the segregation laws left behind by the British and therefore became confused and synonymous with segregation.

    It is however not the same thing... segregation never gave blacks their own homelands, schools, universities, hospitals and ability to self govern. Apartheid was designed to allow tribes to develop at their own pace and to maintain their own culture and customs.

    The biggest mistake the Apartheid government made was allowing millions of black people to settle in white territories where work was abundant. In the end Democracy was forced onto South Africa and they simply took over the white territory and everything they built.... now destroyed 25 years later.

    The mass African migration you see north into Europe and at the Southern border of the US is the "Dfecane"... the genocide pushing the weaker tribes out of Africa... sooner or later it will be in your territories.

    I wonder how much Americans and Europeans will enjoy their Democracy once they become the minority... suppose karma is a bitch.
     
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    Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but I'm not seeing any claim about truth value.
    And that militates against the veracity of the material because...?
     
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    Looks like the flies have arrived. Not a single surprise among them.
     
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    If anything smells better to flies than such weaselly innuendo, I do not wish to imagine it.
     
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    The backdrop of South Africa's nuclear weapons program was its policy of apartheid. As South Africa grew more isolated in the international community as a result of the apartheid regime, its leaders decided that the building the bomb was crucial for national security. When South Africa dismantled the bombs in 1989, it took apart key nuclear facilities, and later, subjected the process to rigorous international oversight. The South African model is ideal for North Korea. North Korea's nuclear program is quite similar to the South African case.

     
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    The liberal dilemma, oh what to do when the truth is racist. Deny the truth, close your ears or create an alternative truth?

    No more lies, people are dying… now there can only be truth. This is history... unsanitised... it is what it is.

    To understand South Africa’s present you need to understand its past. Apartheid was specifically designed to prevent genocide, the genocide that keeps recycling through Africa over and over again and have done so for centuries. Described here http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/south-african-history-uncut.558091/#post-1070725293


    If you have to choose between genocide and apartheid, what would you choose.
    I hear "you" :rolleyes: say genocide,

    What if I told you Apartheid


    I hear "you" :rolleyes: say genocide.

    What if I tell you that you had to die… we are talking about your own genocide…. What would you choose then? Are you beginning to understand why being called a racist matters not... when you are waiting to be boiled or skinned alive.

    People like yourself who has no comprehension of South African history shrug and say… meh crime rate without any clue that this ancient cycle of genocide have already begun. 500 000 people dead in the past 25 years and as infrastructure collapse it will only speed up.

    Liberals and the mainstream media have brought torture and death to South Africa, they think of themselves as humanitarians yet they turn their backs on these people… trying to sweep it under the rug. Make no mistake… the ongoing genocide and what is coming will rip the backbone out of your ideology, the liberal west.
     
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    you know I wonder how long it will take for people like you to make the connection, that this is about survival, not racism. Like the little guy in your head haven't made it to the other side yet to push the button to compute.

    South Africa is collapsing, this conversation would not have been necessary if the country was not in such a horrendous state, why do you think it took 25 years for me to post this thread?
     
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    Liberals are Racists, because they hold blacks to a lower standard.

    If whites were in government and 500 000 people died in 25 years, liberals would go apeshit

    Blacks are in government and 500 000 people died in 25 years, nothing... in fact when the whites complained they are being brutally tortured and murdered, liberals call them racists for speaking out and told them to shut up and die quietly, it's crazy.

    Liberals are Racists because they set a high standard for whites... and a low standard for blacks
     
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    The Lies About the Homelands

    Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box – Part 8 – By Mike Smith 5th of May 2010

    A common myth or lie about Apartheid is that the whites stole the land from the blacks and shoved them on 13% of the land of South Africa in what was called Homelands. It is further believed that blacks barely scratched out a living in these homelands due to it being on barren soil or arid regions. It is further claimed that whites made sure there were no minerals on these lands before giving to the blacks. It is time to address these lies.

    Traditionally South Africa belongs to the whites who first permanently settled South Africa since 1652. Blacks entered South Africa at about the same time, but never permanently settled any area, because they were nomadic cattle and goat herders. Blacks only started settling areas permanently after about 1770.

    Wherever the Boers or Voortrekkers went they bargained for land with local Blacks who settled certain areas before them. In fact there is hardly any part of South Africa that was conquered by whites from blacks. Piet Retief’s treaty with the Zulu King, Dingaan still exist to this day.

    Blacks settled other areas than the whites and in those areas blacks have the right or claim on those areas. It is however difficult to determine their claims, because blacks had no written language, no maps and no legislation such as land title deeds. Despite this, whites researched the areas that Blacks traditionally settled and gave them full autonomy to rule themselves, with their own police forces and armies trained in South Africa with white taxpayer money.

    To create work, white business people were encouraged to open factories in these countries with huge tax concessions.

    The ten homelands were as follows:

    Transkei –Xhosa
    Ciskei – Xhosa
    Venda – Venda
    Bophuthatswana – Tswana
    Gazankulu – Tsonga/Shangaan
    KaNgwane – Swazi
    KwaNdebele – Ndebele
    KwaZulu – Zulu
    Lebowa – Pedi (Northern Sotho)
    QwaQwa – Sotho

    Note how some blacks got TWO or even THREE countries of their own. The Xhosas got both Ciskei and Transkei. The Tswanas who have their own country called Botswana, also got Bophuthatswana.
    The Sothos who already had Lesotho as their own country also got Lebowa and QwaQwa. The Swazis who already had their own country Swaziland got KaNgwane. After South Africa became a union in 1910, the territories (British protectorates) of Bechuanaland (Botswana), Basutuland (Lesotho) and Swaziland was excluded from the union, but the plan was to incorporate them later. The successive South African governments always tried to include them, but the British played delay tactics and after South Africa withdrew from the commonwealth in 1961 it ended any prospect of incorporation of these territories into South Africa.

    Botswana got its independence from Britain in 1966, Lesotho in 1966 and Swaziland in 1968. If one considers that these countries are actually part of the original South Africa, then the territories under Black rule and autonomy including the other homelands makes up 50% of the total land and not 13%. One further has to remember that about 70% of the current South Africa is uninhabitable simply because it is too mountainous or it is half desert in the Western part. Only about 10% is under normal climate conditions economically viable farmland. When one considers the rainfall map of South Africa and the areas settled by Blacks, then one sees that Blacks settled in above average rainfall areas. The soil of these homelands was some of the most fertile soil of South Africa.

    Today the black ANC government is taking white owned farms away and handing them over to blacks to be totally ruined in a few months. Something else a lot of people do not know is that the White NP government ALSO forced whites off their land by paying them out undervalued sums for their farms so that they could hand it over to blacks in the establishment of the homelands. I personally know people who lost their successful dairy farm in those days to make way for the Ciskei.

    About 48% of all the viable agricultural land was in these Black homelands. Today the Blacks want to say that these lands are barren. As I have mentioned it is totally false, but on the other hand, these were the areas the blacks chose out for themselves to settle on about 200 years ago. The cannot blame the whites for it today. It is often said that whites first made sure that there were no minerals in these homelands before they gave it to the Blacks. This is also false. In the homeland of Bophuhatswana, the Tswana homeland in addition to having their own country Botswana, we can find the largest Platinum deposits in the entire subcontinent. Gold are also mined as a byproduct in these platinum mines.

    In the “Book Verrat an Südafrika” Klaus Vaque mentions an article in the German Magazine “Deutschland-Magazin” Nr. 3/83 where a Lebowa chief was asked if it was true that blacks have been pushed onto worthless desolate areas... I freely translate, the chief answered: “No, it is not true. We have here all the raw materials except diamonds and crude oil. We have all other minerals. As far as agriculture is concerned, we have some of the richest parts of South Africa. We have good rainfall and good soil. I think our livestock are some of the best and our wheat and maize potential is fairly high. The people who say that we have been pushed onto dry and desolate areas do not know what they are talking about. I think they are talking about others.”

    The question has to be asked...what is so bad about giving all the major Black tribes of South Africa their own country where they could rule themselves on territory they historically settled and where they could be ethnically homogenous, where they could speak their own language, practice their own culture and religion and where they could be totally free? What is the crime in that?

    From: Pandora's Apartheid Box
     
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    Apartheid's Purpose - Prevent Genocide

    Opening Pandora’s Apartheid Box – Part 7 – By Mike Smith 4th of May 2010

    In order for us to understand the reasoning and rationale behind Apartheid it is necessary to briefly look at the role of Government. We as human beings want to live and survive. We want to pass on our genes into the future and in this short period of being here on earth, we want to be happy. Part of being happy is to have a house, furniture, a television, or whatever makes us happy...basically to own property. This is called the right to life and the pursuit of happiness through the ownership of property.

    Problem comes in when someone wants to take your life away, take your property away or interfere in anyway with your pursuit of happiness. Such a person is then initiating force. He is stealing from us, physically attacking us, defrauding us, etc and therefore threatening our survival and our pursuit of happiness which are the most fundamental rights an individual can have.

    When you are a strong burly bloke, you can easily defend yourself against such a person and your retaliatory force will be just. You did not initiate the force, but protected your right to life and happiness. But what if the assailant has weapons, or there are more than one? What if you are a child, a frail woman, an elderly person or mentally handicapped? How do you then protect yourself against the initiation of force? And that dear people is why we have a government.

    The ONLY job of any government is to protect our individual rights. The role of any government is to protect our right to life and our pursuit of happiness from those who wants to take it away from us. The way government does it is to have an army to protect us from those outside of our country who are or might be attacking us and threaten our survival and pursuit of happiness and to have a police force to protect us from those inside our country who wants to take our individual rights away.

    The government therefore needs to uphold the laws that the citizens feel are rightful and just to protect them from the initiation of force and what threatens their individual rights...First as a warning to those intending on taking away those individual rights and also to punish those who break these laws.

    One thing a government should never do is to initiate force against its citizens. This becomes a dicey topic, because extorting taxes is a form of initiation of force. A government can actually totally fund all its expenditures through other moral means such as setting up trust funds with all the money and property it owns, donations and people paying for services such as passports, toll roads, vehicle registration, etc. Companies who want to transport their goods through harbours, by rail or road, etc should pay for using this infrastructure. Taxes therefore become obsolete. There is not a single government department that cannot FULLY pay for itself. Nevertheless, I am digressing. The National Party government in 1948 were faced with all these dilemmas when they came to power.

    Their primary task as a government was to protect ALL the citizens of South Africa. In the previous installments of this series I tried to explain the background to this dilemma, considering the vast diversity of South Africa’s people, their cultures, their religions, their languages and their histories. I explained how Blacks from literally hundreds of smaller tribes were fighting against each other for hundreds of years before the whites came to South Africa, often wiping each other out completely.

    Credo Mutwa writes in his book “My People” (1969), chapter eleven, page 244: “One of the High Laws of the Bantu is the law of revenge...The result of this law is that there are blood-feuds going on all over Africa which show no sign of dying out.

    Some of these have already been going on for generations. The Zulus have been feuding with the Basutus (Sothos), and also with the Shanganes of Portuguese East Africa (Mozambique), for more than a century. The feud between the Baluba and some of its neighbouring tribes has been going on for nearly six hundred years, while the feud between the Masai and the Wakambi in Kenya has now entered its tenth century. The Bahutu (Hutus) and the Wa-Tu-Tutsi (Tutsis) have been at each other’s throats for as long, and as recently as 1963 the newspapers reported that this senseless feud had accounted for another 30,000 Wa-Tu-Tutsi lives”. Note how Credo Mutwa writes about the animosity between the Hutus and the Tutsis of Rwanda in 1969, referring to a relatively small massacre of 30,000 Tutsis in 1963. It culminated in full blown genocide of between 800,000 and 1,2 million Tutsis in 1994.

    This is exactly the chaos Apartheid tried to prevent. The South African situation was unique. It was a major challenge and it had to be solved fairly. The NP had to find a compromise that everyone could live with and be happy with. The White NP government intimately knew the blacks of South Africa and the blacks of Africa in general. They knew about Shaka’s Defecane that was worse than the Rwanda genocide, they knew about all the inter cultural and inter tribal differences of the blacks of South Africa. They knew about the massacres of whites during the Xhosa wars, the massacre of whites at Bloukrans, the Battle of Blood River and countless more.

    The only way to keep the peace, protect all the citizens of South Africa and to secure the individual rights of all the people of South Africa was to separate them, let them develop at their own pace, give them autonomy the right to rule themselves, draw up their own laws and enforce those laws with their own armies and police forces...The official government policy was called...”Seperate Development”...The Media called it, “Apartheid”.

    Proposed in 1973 accepted and enforced in 1976The United Nations General Assembly declared Apartheid a crime against humanity without offering an alternative to South Africa’s situation. The question is thus open. Considering the background that I have sketched so far in this series...what would you have done if you were in charge of South Africa at the time, faced with the same challenges? What would your solution have been? The worst that Apartheid critics can dig up...the worst “Massacre” they can ever refer to...is the Sharpeville shootings in 1960 when 69 blacks died. Compare that to Rwanda 1994... Rwanda is exactly what Apartheid tried to prevent. It does not matter what people says about Apartheid today...on the watch of the National Party, no Rwanda style massacre ever occurred on South African soil. More than 3000 white farmers were not killed by black savages under Apartheid, reported rapes of 50,000 per year never happened under Apartheid. Contrary to what most blacks and/or liberal whites would like to think about what whites supposedly
    did to blacks under Apartheid. There are no mass graves, there is not a single concentration camp, and there are certainly no gas chambers where whites tried to exterminate blacks.

    Quite the contrary. White South Africans built the biggest hospital in the world, Baragwanath (today called the Chris Hani Barragwanath hospital) for blacks with white expertise and white taxpayer’s money... 3200 beds and 6760 staff members. For that, and many other altruistic and charitable endeavours, whites of South Africa were and still are made out as the evil skunks of the world.
    http://www.terra-bellum.com/apartheids-purpose-prevent-genocide/
     
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    The big problem with separate development was there was very little development. The big money boys in mining and farming discovered that there was lots of money to be made from cheap black labour. So, instead of letting the Swartes develop their own economies and using English and Afrikaner workers on the farms and in the mines, they enticed the swartes
     
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    Well if you call this very little development then I don't know what development is...


    • The Lie Of Apartheid: In 1988, a German book published how benevolent the White giant of Africa actually was. Below are some of the facts referencing 1988

      In 1972, South African Blacks owned 360,000 vehicles. (More than all the black African states together)

      The monthly income of Blacks per capita in 1988 was R352 per month in South Africa – Malawi and Mozambique were less than R20 per month.

      In 1988 Black people could undergo a complicated heart valve surgery for just more than $ 1 while Black Americans had to pay $ 15,000. In a Pretoria hospital between 2,000 and 3,000 of these surgeries were done per year.

      In 1970, Black workers earned R1,751 million, or 25.5% of the total wage fees in South Africa and increased to R17,238 million in 1984 (1,000% growth) and 32.3% of total wages in South Africa.

      In the 1986/1987 financial year, Whites paid R9,000 million and Blacks R171 million tax. Indians paid R257 million and Coloreds paid R315 million on tax.

      Between 1962 and 1972 the United Nations paid $ 298 million to underdeveloped countries compared to South Africa that spent $558 million on the development of its Black areas.

      The budget amount for Black education increased every year from 1970 to almost 30% more than any other Government Department.

      From 1955 to 1984 the number of Black scholars increased from 35,000 to 1,096,000. In 1988 71% of the adult Black population could read and write versus 47% in Kenya, 38% in Egypt and 34% in Nigeria. On average during the year 15 new classrooms per working day were built for Black scholars.

      In 1985 there were 42,000 Black students enrolled at South African universities.

      There were 5 Black universities and 28 higher education institutions funded by the Government.

      Soweto with its population of 1.2 million, had 5 modern stadiums versus Pretoria with its 600,000 Whites who had three. Soweto had 365 schools versus Pretoria 229.

      In Soweto in 1978, there were 115 football fields, three rugby fields, 4 athletic tracks, 11 cricket fields, two golf courses, 47 tennis courts, 7 swimming pools, 5 bowling halls, 81 basketball fields, 39 children playgrounds and countless community halls, cinemas and clubhouses.

      In Soweto in 1978, there were 300 churches, 365 schools, 2 technicons, 8 clinics, 63 kindergartens, 11 post offices and its own fruit and vegetable market.

      The White Government built a huge hospital Baragwanath 3,000 beds in Soweto. One of the largest and most modern hospitals in the world.

      Its 23 operating theaters were equipped with the best equipment money can buy.

      Here Blacks were treated at a nominal cost of R2 for an unlimited period.

      In 1982, no fewer than 898 heart surgeries were done here.

      Next to the Baragwantha Hospital is the St. John-eye clinic, famous for the treatment of glaucoma, previous fix retinas, traumatic eye injuries and rare tropical diseases.

      There were over 2,300 registered firms, 1,000 taxi operators and 50,000 car owners in Soweto.

      Dr. Kenneth Walker, a Canadian physician, visited Soweto and made the following observations:
      He saw several houses worth more than R100 000 with various BMW’s at the door.
      Only 2% of homes were shacks with neat buildings with lawns. If he had to choose between the decaying apartments in New York, Detroit or Chicago than he would rather stay in Soweto.
      He’d rather be very ill in Soweto as in some Canadian cities.
      He says the city has more schools, churches, cars, taxis, and sports fields than any other independent African state.

      In 1978, the South African Government built a highly modern hospital MEDUNSA on the border of the independent state of Bophuthatswana at a cost of R70 million on 35 hectares. In this “city” they had living and sleeping facilities for male and female students.

      Black doctors, dentists, veterinarians and para-medical staff were trained. It was the only specialized university of its kind in Africa and one of the few in the world financed by White taxpayers exclusively to benefit Blacks. Almost all students who mainly came from the national homelands costs were taken care of by the Government.

      The practical training took place in the nearby Garankuwa Hospital farm where the whole range of human ailments were covered.

      Garankuwa had the facilities for kidney transplants, isotopes units with specialized laboratories where 200 doctors were trained practically every year.

      South Africa provided training for the airline personnel of Swaziland, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zaire and the Comores.

      In 1979, when the train traffic to the Malawian capital Lilongwe was interrupted by rebels, South Africa sent transport aircrafts with fuel drums to keep their economy going.

      In 1986, 80,000 Black businessmen from Africa visited Cape Town to finalize business deals.

      South Africa provided the grain needs of its neighboring countries and wider. In 1980, Zambia received 250 000 tons of maize, Mozambique 150,000 tons maize and 50 000 tons of wheat, Kenya 128,000 tons maize and Zimbabwe 100 000 tons. Other countries that also received South African grain were Angola, Ivory Coast, Malawi, Mauritius, Tanzania and Zaire.

      At least 12 countries of Africa, according to the “Argus African News Service” were so dependent on South Africa grain that a total ban on imports and exports would have destroyed them economically.

      About half of Lesotho’s male population worked in South Africa, about 146,000 in 1983, and earned R280,6 million which was about half of Lesotho’s treasury.

      In the 1982/83 financial year South Africa budgeted R434 million for assistance to the independent neighboring states.

      South Africa produced more electrical energy than Italy, as much crude steel as France, more wheat than Canada, more wool than the United States, more wine than Greece and more fish than Great Britain.

      South African trains ran on more rail lines than in West Germany, carried more passengers than Switzerland, had better punctuality record than Austria and exported car parts to 100 countries.

      South African mines bore down to the depth of 3,480 meters and holds the record for the deepest vertical shaft at 2,498m deep into the hardest rock in the world.

      They were accused by the world that it was a Police state:

      In South Africa had 1.4 officers for every 1,000 people whilst the world had the following: United Kingdom 2.2, Israel 3.5, New York 4.3, and Moscow 10 per 1000. In South Africa there were 16,292 White Policemen versus 19 177 Non-White.

      They were accused of killing their political offenders:

      In 1979-1980 there were no deaths in South African prisons. In the previous 10 years 37 died versus 274 in the same period in Wales and England.

      They were accused that they payed starvation wages:
      In 1974, the average monthly income of black workers in South Africa were $ 127 versus the $ 140 in the US, the richest country in the world.

      They were accused that they locked up thousands of political prisoners:

      In 1983, 127 such prisoners were confined in South Africa and 11 whose movements were limited. A further 32 were under house arrest.

      By: Thomas Burger and Heather Saladino/3rd Degree
     
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    Here's ANC development in South Africa

    Maggots in patient’s mouth: IFP says hospital is ‘death trap’
    https://citizen.co.za/news/south-af...tients-mouth-ifp-says-hospital-is-death-trap/


    I contemplated posting the photo on here but honestly I can barely look at it... it's extremely upsetting

    This post contain more ANC Development in South Africa's hospitals

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...in-south-africa.557055/page-6#post-1070676859
     
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