Special Report: How Iran spreads disinformation around the world

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are very much into making money out of rebuilding stuff they destroyed. Ask Dick Cheney and Halliburton.

    The cycle can, and probably will, be repeated when Neo-Cons are put back in power, and it seems they already might be.
     
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    Uhm the CIA is only one of the 16 Intel Agencies the US has. Oh and Actually I am using leftist sources about what the Iranians have done. Unfortunately the CIA won't let me inside their sanctum to search thru their documents.

    That would be those Alphabet News Sources. Even CNN reported the Iranians taking our people hostage.
     
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    ... your response ...
    All of that and still managed to stay well clear of the subject. Where is your "explanation" on the hostage taking? Did it fall off the page when you pressed the 'post reply' button? I think you are shilling.
     
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    That is Neo Cons....they aren't real war mongers. Think Genghis Khan that wiped out entire tribes of people. Now that's a War Monger.

    Trump a Neo Con? Ahahahahahahaha. Not even on his best day.

    Still you are a supporter for the Iranian war mongers. Otherwise you would have condemned them from the start. That which they have done with their own actions and words.
     
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    Yeah you can't alter their mission. But you can give them a headache. Just sayin. :grin:
     
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    The fact remains no matter how much you would like to dilute it: There was no insightful "intell". The WMD hoax was hatched from Bush Baby's crave to get to Irak's oil fields.
     
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    I'm not responsible for the difficulty you have in translating my words.
     
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    There didn't actually need to be.....all Bush Jr needed to say was.....we are going in to put an end to the madman who gassed his owned people fighting the Iranians and committing genocide on the Kurds.

    That was all that was needed. But do look up the Brits intel that they first gave. Just so you don't keep blaming the US alone.
     
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    Plus, never forget Iran is specifically listed within PNAC, the neocon scheme, along with Libya, Iraq and Syria, as nations to be taken down, leaders removed.

    So, it was just a matter of time, before it happened, as you are calling for, unless neocons are sent home at elections.

    Objectively is Iran any worse than Saudi Arabia? Both are out to be important actors in the ME. Sunni against Shia, as it has been for a very long time.

    I have little doubt that we will invade another sovereign nation, and break international law once again, given only others, like russia are actually subject to it. We are above it. International law is not applicable to the US, or so it looks like if one happens to look objectively.

    When George HR Bush was asked why we didn't drive on to Bagdad and take out Hussein, at the end of Desert Storm, he said something that people forgot. He said that the US does not invade sovereign nations, removing their rulers, perhaps because he remembered it is against the very international law that we helped to write post ww2, given what hitler had done in europe.

    A few years later we forgot that we don't invade sovereign nations and went ahead and have done it with both libya and syria. Sure, we tried to use proxies, so as to weasel out of what we were actually doing...as if americans were so stupid as not to notice. ha ha. Well, I guess the stupid americans didn't notice, but others indeed did. But then you get accused of working for Libya, syria or Iran, illustrating the madness involved.

    But granted, Iran is a problem, but isn't a national security risk for the US, indeed because it was sunni saudis who attacked us on 911, but the war mongers in america must think it was Iran and the shiites who hit us on 911.

    Yeah, this is so absurd you really would have a hard time making it up if reality matters one twit.

    Our neocon driven foreign policy is nothing more than a tale told by an idiot.
     
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    Remember the Iranians playing chicken with our ships. Shooting near us. Notice how all of that stopped once Trump got into Office.

    They won't be taking any US Hostages until Trump is gone. They know he is like Reagan will go cowboy all on their ass.
     
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    Well lets not forget Iran helping AQ out. The Pakis set them out.....not us.
     
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    But.... but... Barack told us that the Iranian government was super coolio and all..... We even sent a couple tons of cash (literally) to them in friendship fees.....
     
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    I seem to recall they've been doing some runarounds with their patrol boats in recent months/years, but I agree, taking hostages would not go down well.

    The release of the hostages the country took when Reagan took office was a classic case of "my hands to god, we are dead if we don't" diplomacy.
     
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    I don't think I know from what perspective you are speaking. When you say making mistakes, are you referring to Iraq or the U.S.? The U.S. and Iran were not allies, if that's what you mean.
     
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    While denying Maliki assistance, after being told AQIL would break into Syria.
     
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    Well? Are going to give your reasons why the hostages were taken and under what circumstance it occurred? You're shilling, aren't you.
     
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    Yeah they even quit playing chicken with our ships once Trump took the oath. Oh and EYEATOLDYASO isn't going to be mouthing off to Trump to much. Just enough to keep their hardliners thinking they are more than whats actually there.
     
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    If the US does it, it is good and justifiable. But heaven help anyone else who might so what we do, habitually.

    The bad habits we institutionalized during the Cold War, and fighting the Communist revolution, to keep it from spreading like a vile virus were not corrected when the communist revolution died with the fall of the USSR. So, our actions and methods is just how we roll. But if anyone else, besides our allies do it, oh, bad, very bad.

    Reality over delusion is always a good thing, even if you don't like reality.
     
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    We've boiled it down to that, huh.
     
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    Oh and Rhuthedayhouani warned Trump about those Sanctions. How did that work out? :roflol:
     
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    Well we can't help it you deny the genocide that was taking place with the Kurds. Nor why you can't figure out the reason why the Kurds asked for help.
     
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    The brotherhood was his creature. Funny how he always took their side....and never took the side or interests of the US.
     
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    Still I got good chuckle out of the Iranians telling Trump. You better not do that. Then Trump said, oh yeah.....done! [​IMG]
     
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    It just seems that enduring religious despotism is still the authoritarian model progressives yearn for... even as they decry religion in general, it's this polity they love. Go figure....
     
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    I did. The Shah sucked. I stated that. You want more. We gave him asylum after he was deposed while he was seeking treatment for cancer.

    Is your current theocracy any better than the Shah? Killing people who protest against their rule? Destroying anything that dares to stand up to their totalitarian actions?

    Tell me how that is different than what the Shah was doing with his secret police. Revolutionary Guards are precisely the same thing.

    In the ME, these tribal battles go back centuries. Perhaps one day the ME will join the 21 century.

    And I don't shill. That is clearly your mission.

    Don't accuse me of something you're doing in hopes it takes the pressure off your transparent effort.
     
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