Spokane teaches us how to avoid hate crime charges...

So if you are going to beat someone to death of the opposite race, make sure you rob them in the process.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...er-fell-in-with-wrong-people-family-says?lite

No hate crime charges will be filed. Now, two young, strong white boys beat an elderly black man to death? I guarantee automatic hate crime charge... and of course, six months of Al Sharpton flapping his gums on television.

 

the whole idea of a 'hate crime' is ridiculous. I'll never understand how people think it's worse when someone is killed out of racial hatred than when someone is killed out of boredom. Someone's been killed - I don't get why there's any focus on anything else.

 

Political correctness.

 

There would be if we had an Attorney General that wasn't a puppet on a string, besides fighting voter ID laws are much more important than one Okinawa survivor.

 

The motive, apparently was not racial, but was robbery. So if they DO eventually PROVE that the motive was RACIAL rather than robbery, then YES, there WILL BE a HATE CRIME prosecution.

Unlike in your native country of China, Robot, here in the USA, we DO HAVE a JUSTICE system, and it DOES work fairly well, DESPITE Chinese propaganda that it does not. U know, CHINA, the country where they have nets around the building so the workers cannot commit suicide, and the country with LOTS of EMPTY new Highrise apartments are built on top of poor peoples destroyed houses. U know, THAT CHINA.

@#%. GO (*)(*)(*)(*) about the BS here. Work on YOUR OWN FD up country.

 

What's funny is he is probably using a proxy to bypass China's extreme censorshipto get on this site.

 

Hate crimes, like terrorism are crimes against community cities not individuals. Both are meant to terrorize a group. It is an added charge. Why do people not want to lock up terrorists?

 

One is more likely to set the country back then the other. One is more likely to have an intimidating factor on the community then the other.

 

Hmh. Looks like you live in Kosovo. So what the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you talking about? Hey I live in one of those highrise apartments on top of what was once poor people's homes! Mine's not vacant at all, no sirree! Oh, and MY OWN FD up country is the USA you asstard.

Now, back on topic... go ahead and find me a black guy who was charged with a hate crime for ganking a white dude... I dare you.

 

Nope. PF not filtered by the Great Firewall of China... ironically. Facebook, Youtube, Vimeo, of course, and now the New York Times b/c they said something bad about China's economic plans. Most blogs also blocked. But very easy to get around with a VPN. Most Chinese high school students have FB accounts, for example. Chairman Mao is rolling in his... errrm, mausoleum.

 

Why should someone that killed with forethought be punished more than someone who kills spur of the moment?

Intent has always determined the crime committed.

I'm against hate crime laws because they are not used consistently. The theory is ok. Basically, the idea is to punish crimes based on some kind of group-based malice more, in order to stop that kind of malice.

 

That's highly subjective, and simple politics can meet the same standard you've set.

 

I guess it would depend on the other crime, but a murder of passion doesnt really affect the community or society the same way.

But then again, the streets that are the most intimidating in America aren't that way because of rampant hate crimes. It is is just a general lawlessness.

 

We use intent to differentiate between crimes: the difference between murder and manslaughter is intent. But we don't differentiate between murder out of jealousy, greed, or boredom. We only differentiate when its racial hate.

 

Precisely. I find the crazy attacks on schools far more disturbing than racial attacks.

 

Both the theory and the application of the law are ridiculous in my view.

 

I think the point that I'm trying to make is that 'hate crime' laws are ridiculous.

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You don't think old white people are terrorized right now by young black thugs beating one of their own to death for $20 and a Sam's Club card?

 

I'd like to think that murder is murder--you're still just as dead regardless of the perpetrator's reasons for murdering you. And I think that's pretty intimidating.