State bans on birth control

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Would it be constitutional for a state to ban birth control

  1. Yes, there is no right to birth control

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  2. No, birth control is a right

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    LOL.. yes, because free speech and gun ownership aren't suddenly explicit enumerated rights in the constitution.. Laughable. Government has no reason, or are there any organized groups asking for contraceptive bans. Sorry, your straw man is up in flames already.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Who’s talking about free speech or guns? Obviously those are covered. But birth control isn’t a right.,
     
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    The point was that the only folks I am aware of that want to take rights from folks are progressives who are coming for out freedom to speak, and our gun ownership rights. Which was the actual comment that you responded to. And now you run away... again, the only folks talking about contraceptive bans seems to be just you. And like any other drug or medical service, all of those are currently regulated by both the states and the federal government. Progressives banned sugary drinks... are you suggesting progressives will now go after contraceptives? Just to make a point about the unwanted pregnancies their responsibility free world view produces?
     
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    You should try googling things before you make proclamations
    https://www.businessinsider.com/mis...t-contraception-if-roe-wade-overturned-2022-5
     
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    And what would the compelling State interest be (see my prior post) for making such a statement. What good does it cause or bad does it prevent? Answer: None. Therefore it would be Unconstitutional.

    The government cannot ban just anything it can get 50%+1 of the votes of whatever legislative body might be trying to ban. They have to have a good reason, as I already explained in depth. A "good reason" doesn't exist to ban contraception. Quite the opposite, in fact, it's something that we should be putting into those stupid PSA commercials the government pays for, instead of trying to scare smokers who already know it's a bad habit they need to quit. Preaching at them even more isn't going to help, but encouraging the sexually adventerous among our population to glove up (and use other means) to prevent pregnancy until and unless you want to and are prepared for the responsibilities of making one is a message that should be promoted by our "officials".

    We already have too many unwanted kids, which leads to big time future problems. I actually think having too many unwanted kids is the root source of a LOT of our society's problems.
     
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    I don't remember the details at all, but the use of contraceptives was declared a personal right years before I was born, in 1964 I think. Even IF Roe is overturned, that decision is not also overturned, nor do I think it ever will be. Just like Loving v. Virginia won't be either.
     
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    I agree, so good luck to you.
     
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    The war on drugs is a failure if it's meant to stop drug use. Which is impossible.
    But someone besides the cartels are making out. Maybe the US gov't?
     
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    Eh, who knows. Not me, but I'm not a conspiracy theorist nor do I give any of them even an ounce of credibility, even if they do occasionally get one right. So do broken clocks.

    But I don't care, I endorse the idea of ending the war on drugs, and the sooner, the better. Ultimately, history will judge the period of drug prohibition the same as alcohol prohibition is judged now. Just an absolutely stupid public policy idea that was doomed to failure before it ever began. Humans like drugs, and you can't legislate that innate feature of humanity out of us, it's really just that simple.
     
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    Very true. It's a waste of time, effort, and money.
    And it creates the criminal culture around it. Like the cartels.
    If drugs were legal and regulated, like the drugs alcohol and tobacco, there'd be less crime.
     
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    And with all the chicken-littleing going on about fentanyl-laced drugs, you think people would stop and realize, "Hey, just a minute... If we let legit businesses in on this action, like ones who practice, you know, things like quality control, this problem would cease."

    Dunno about you or anyone else, but I'm not a bit worried that any cocaine I might pick up at the corner drug store manufactured legally by say Pfizer would have even a drop of fentanyl or anything else in it. Not one tiny bit.
     
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    As some have said, follow the money. There's a reason the fed govt doesn't stop this war on drugs that has failed miserably.

    But we have this opioid epedemic in the country and those are legal drugs.
     
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    Overturning RvW opens the door to those things
     

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