States sue Trump in showdown over border wall funds

I blame trump for exploiting the power. I could not care less about what the dems are doing.

 

Also defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic ...

Having oversight over the executive branch of government seeing and demanding that the President enforces the laws that were passed by Congress like the immigration laws that are already on the books and enforcing and funding for the wall that Congress passed in 2006. the Secure Fence Act.

I'm still trying to find out when Congress appropriated the money to build the new barracks for the 3rd Mar Div on the island of Guam, what did Obama do with the money because the barracks weren't built.

I guess some in Congress were more concerned that Guam would flip over and sink into the ocean.

 

Not really.





October 2018 saw nearly 51,000 illegal aliens apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border with family unit crossings almost doubling what they were in October 2016, under President Obama. More than 23,000 family units crossed the southern border last month, compared to about 13,100 crossing in October 2016.


Last month’s illegal immigration totals at the southern border were so high that not since 2007 has the country seen this much illegal immigration in October. In October 2007, there were about 51,300 southwest border crossers.


The October 2018, illegal immigration levels are almost exactly double what southwest border crossings were this same month last year, when 25,488 apprehensions occurred.



In Fiscal Year 2018, the country saw nearly 400,000 southwest border apprehensions. This is similar to the illegal immigration levels that occurred under Obama, where there were about 331,000 southwest border apprehensions in Fiscal Year 2015 and about 356,000 in Fiscal Year 2012.....snip~

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...l-in-a-decade/

 

Actually it's an unconstitutional law that has never been challenged because no prior president has abused it. The Constitution specifically gives the power of the purse strings to congress and Trump is trying to divert funds already allocated by congress for other uses.
Usually a conservative Justice is a constructionist and a constructionist should shoot the law down as Trump is applying it. 9-0

 

Actually it's an unconstitutional law that has never been challenged because no prior president has abused it. The Constitution specifically gives the power of the purse strings to congress and Trump is trying to divert funds already allocated by congress for other uses.
Usually a conservative Justice is a constructionist and a constructionist should shoot the law down as Trump is applying it. 9-0

 

I do believe trump is acting in the best interests of America

 

You'd think...

 

I cant speak for the inelected demigods on the supreme court

But neither can you

 

You should blame the Demos. As all they had to do was give Trump half of what he asked for. Wherein he would have accepted that. Instead they come with the diss.

Trump gave Congress a chance to work something out. Gave the Demos a chance to get Right. Gave the process a chance to work. The Demos ****ed that up. So they get the blame.

 

So as long as the next potus "gives congress a chance" to give him what he wants he's justified in declaring a NE if things don't go his way. Got it.

 

Obama did the same thing with his DACA EO

 

That spending bill that passed 100-0 but rejected by Trump was the democrats fault?
That's some kind of figuring on your part.

 

Fair enough. It looks like we agree on this.

 

You should have never fell for the leftness and their propaganda they were preaching. Along with the Lame Stream. Leftness <<<<< there is no emergency. There is no crisis.


Yet the crisis has been going since BO the peep was in Office and calling it a Crisis. Then there was the reality hitting the Democrats hard upside their domes.



There were 50,998 apprehensions in October 2018; 51,857 in November; 50,749 in December; and 47,893 in January 2019. At this rate, there will be around 806,000 apprehensions in fiscal 2019, which will be two and a half times as many as there were in fiscal 2017.

The immigration courts are overwhelmed by their caseload already. As of Nov. 30, 2018, the courts had a backlog of 809,041 cases. This did not include an additional 330,211 cases that had not been put on the active docket yet, for a total backlog of 1,139,252 cases. The backlog was only 542,411 cases when Trump took office.

The average wait for a hearing is 1,018 days — more than two and a half years.....snip~


https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...laration-a-legal-fight-trump-is-likely-to-win

 

Then prove it Legal. Prove every wall Obama build under emergency powers is manned by the US military. I can't wait to watch you run from this as well.

 

That you can't back up a word you claimed? Absolutely. Thanks for admitting it by giving zero facts to support anything you said.

 

Good God how can you be this clueless about basic terminolgyt?

The border patrol are NOT civilians. They are government employees.

ci·vil·ian
[səˈvilyən]
NOUN

1. a person not in the armed services or the police force

Seriously, why do you make it so easy to own you?

 

If it doesn't go down 9-0 somebody will have some serious explaining to do. These people are not stupid, if they let this stand then when Bernie becomes president he could declare a national emergency backed by science and divert hundreds of billions to tackle climate change. 9-0

 

What spending bill that passed 100-0. Did you mean the one to avert the Shutdown on Feb 15th 2019?

As that bill didn't pass 100-0.

 

Think Christmas, pre shutdown. 100-0

 

Oh the one that House Repubs turned down and then passed the legislation with the wall funding. Did you forget that part?

 

If I may? Obama didn't build any walls under emergency powers act so none are manned by anybody.

 

So the 16 prosecutors challenging Trump are fools... even though Trump himself admits that this is not a national emergency.

 

No, leftist fools.

 

Really?

I see lots of people questioning his authoritah. You and I have questioned why that authoritah is so broad. Could that have been by intent?

By all means, digress. Those questions are going to come up in court and in each case I predict that ultimately the courts will defer to his judgement. Not that the language in our laws means a damned thing to anyone in Washington anymore, but I'm not aware of any language in the NEA that gives the judiciary the authority to exercise that discretion. That discretion is invested in the executive.

I understand all that.

As I pointed out in the post you're responding to that ship sailed years ago.

It's all well and good to discuss these things, but do you honestly think the Roberts court, much less the ones beneath it, give a sh*t about the language in our laws and limiting government power? Do you think the next Democratic president, like the megalomaniac that left office two years ago, won't do all he/she possibly can to grab and exercise more power? Did Obama need an Emergency Order to impose a f*cking individual mandate on everyone? Did Emperor-for-Life Roberts need the normal legislative process?

It would be laughable if it wasn't so sickening.

Why do you think I've been so sardonic about this whole situation? Most of the chatter around here completely misses the larger and more important point that the rule of law in this country is already dead. We're arguing over a corpse. We can pretend it isn't dead and debate whether or not the Canteloupe Caligula's actions are proper and legal but in the end the nomenklatura and apparatchiks in Washington are going to unilaterally and arbitrarily decide to do whatever the hell they want, statute, Constitution and will of the people be damned.