Stigmatizing Homosexuals Helps Pedophiles

As we've seen before, taboos can often have interesting and unintended consequences. Among the most infamous was the prohibition against alcohol in the USA. Instead of creating a dry country, it created a black market and prompted the rise of organized crime in America, turning a regulated "problem" into an unregulated nightmare. While some taboos are necessary, we are also faced with a simple truth that taboos do not always work as intended.

We may be facing one of these taboos today. Regardless of if you are for or against stigmatizing homosexuality, it's important to understand the consequences of such stigmas. In a twist of irony, the taboo of homosexuality may be promoting pedophilia. A report from missingkids.com and the Department of Justice had this to say in discussing the reasons some victims of child sexual abuse do not speak out:


http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC70.pdf

Although most victims of sexual abuse are girls, boy victims are faced with a unique problem that prevents them from speaking out... the stigma of homosexuality. Pedophiles can use this as a weapon to keep their victims silent.

Pedophiles thrive off of vulnerabilities such as this that allow them to coarse their victims into silence, or win emotionally vulnerable victims over with affection. If the point isn't already intuitive as is, in 2007, the Mayo Clinic highlights a study on pedophiles in which they were asked how they selected their targets.

http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

In other words, the more unhappy, emotionally needy and generally vulnerable a child is, the more likely that child will become a target of a pedophile... and the child may even reciprocate to fill their emotional needs. Unfortunatly this profile of a victim fits one demographic of children quite nicely... gay children suffering from stigmatization. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlights this concern for us in the following report:

http://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/stigma-and-discrimination.htm

Stigmatized gay youth fit the profile of a vulnerable child perfectly... having limited support and oversight from parents, suffering from depression, succumbed to drug abuse, having a willingness to make risky sexual decisions and desiring the emotional support and approval of others, they make a perfect target for a pedophile. The stigmatization of homosexuals serves as a weapon that pedophiles can use to silence their victims. The consequences will be especially pronounced in gay youth already made vulnerable by the stigma's they face, but will ultimately hurt all male victims, gay or not.

Inn this twist of irony, the stigmatizing homosexuality effectively promotes a far more serious stigma, pedophilia, victimizing male children in the process. I'm not suggesting that this is a reason to support the elimination of the stigma against homosexuality if you don't already support it, but it is curious to look at the consequences nevertheless.

 

Interesting notion.
Since right-wingers are always stigmatizing gays, they must be trying to help pedophiles.
Now I understand why some catholic extremists waste so much time trying to stigmatize gays.
They must be trying to deflect attention from their pedophile clergy.

 

I've seen this idea posted in more than one place. The ban on homosexuals allowed to become priests was designed to A) Look like they were doing something about the problem and B) Deflect any anger away from the real problem. Funny thing is the Boy Scouts did the same thing, and now all their secret documents are also coming to light.

 

Really concerns me that the gay community seems to recognize all the superficial issues people have with homosexuals while totally ignoring the most serious problem they face. Here's what all you people should be the most concerned with.

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http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm


Do your brothers and sisters a favor and be as least as concerned about how many of you are dying young as you are about what people think about your lifestyle.

[My gay stepbrother died of AIDS on April 22, 2012 at the age of 53. If his passing opens the eyes of one young gay person to the horrors of AIDS, then he won't have died in vain. Take care of yourselves... and each other.]

 

Here's an idea. Why not have safe sex?

 

What is safe about sex with children whether you're gay or heterosexual?

I agree that stignatizing homosexuals causes a plethora of problems. Supporting old men who desire sex with boys 13 or 14 years old aids peoophiles, too. Lobbying the psychologists to excluse pedophilia as a mental disorder aids pedophiles, too. Trial lawyers willing to sue at the drop of a buck aid pedophiles, too. Liberals with the "if it feels good, do it" philopsophy aid pedophiles, too. Roman Polanski found a lot of comfort with and support from liberals.

 

I am concerned with it. According to the CDC, stigmatizing homosexuals is a primary cause of HIV. The fight to reduce homosexual stigma is the same fight that is required to reduce HIV and promote the mental and physical health among homosexuals.

http://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/stigma-and-discrimination.htm

 

Now if you had only said instead:
Supporting old men who desire sex with boys or girls 13 or 14 years old aids pedophiles, too.

Two things- I am against pedophilia- whether the pedophile is attacking boys or girls. Unfortunately on these boards the discussion about pedophilia is usually focused exclusively on the men who attack boys.

Secondly- this liberal would like to see Roman Polanski strung up by his scrotum- and I find the excuses of the people- and yes they are probably all liberal since they are all in the industry- disgusting. Polanski drugged and sodomized a 14 year old, and if he can be successfully extradited here, he should get the maximum sentence the law allows.

 

You are correct on the point about boys or girls. The thread is about homosexuals. I did mention Roman Polanski who is a heterosexual pedophile. Actually, the girl was 13 at the time of the offense. Interestingly, Roman Polanski gave an interview in which he gave the classic pedophile defense by saying, "The judge wants to do it, the district attorney wants to do it, the jury wants to do it, all men want to do it." Pedophiles are desperate to think they're normal. If a police interrogator wants a confession he will start talking about the seductive behavior of the victim and before long the pedophile his talking about his experiences.

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WOW and here I thought HIV was caused by having unprotected, promiscuous sex! silly me

 

1) You don't have to be promiscuous to get HIV.

2)Sexuality has no bearing on HIV infection.

3) Any unprotected sex has risks, regardless of sexuality.

4) I.V. drug users constitute the highest risk group for HIV.

 

Consider yourself corrected. Or at least having learned the leading cause of that unprotected and promiscuous sex.

 

1. SOMEBODY has to have promiscuous to spread HIV. If two people only have sex with each other and no one else, they can't get STDs.
2. I didn't mention any "sexuality". Last time I check HIV can be spread by all persuasions.
4. I should have included the other group of dummies sharing needles.
Bottom line, if people don't participate in certain immoral behaviors, they are pretty safe

 

Seriously??? HIV is caused by what one person thinks of another?? LOL Go push that "refusing to be accountable for one's own actions" on some one else.

 

Children are going to be ashamed of getting molested by an adult whether they are a boy or a girl. This entire thread is fail.

 

Considering that much of this can start at a young age and is caused by poor mental health and low self esteeme among gays, it's not just a matter of taking care of people who Should be responsible for themselves. It's a matte of creating a good environment and examples for gay youth that don't always have the benefi of a good upbringing to make them responsible adults.

 

True, but homosexual stigma makes it all the worse. Bad enough that it warrented special consideration from the department of justice and missingkids.org to mention it as a substantial problem inhibiting male victims. A male victim has to deal with redicule for not only being a victim, as well as ridicule for being homosexual. Gay youth are especially vulnerable for not wanting to be outed.

Criticiz the thread if you like, at least my comments came with reputable sources.

 

so fatiguing. Does it ever end. The endless topics on the poor homosexual classes. If it were enough i wish you'd just all go and bang each others brains out until they fell out your rear ends.

You know your biggest problem? you're just so annoying.

 

No, actually they don't. HIV is undetectable unless one has regular screening. Most people do not do this, though they should. So one who has the normal amount of sexual partners over the period of say..ten years, may not detect their infected status. They can spread the disease to others who believed the person was std free.

I wouldn't call sex immoral. Unsafe sex is stupid, but not immoral.

 

Spot-on correct!!

 

They don't really have to be "promiscuous"; do you know the meaning of that word?

HIV can indeed be spread amongst rather morally conservative people. All it takes is be unprotected and hook up with the wrong person... once.

That's a largely untenable "if"; people aren't generally like that (and never have been).

Yep.

What do you suggest to resolve the issue of drug addiction? That's what you're really talking about there.

You are just pointing out problems; what you claim above are hardly solutions.

 

You don't get it, do you. The concept of having and enjoying sex with one partner your entire life is beyond you..... so I'll break it down. 1 virgin marries another and they stay together until death = NO chance of HIV Get it now?

Sex is GREAT, not immoral. Sex with revolving partners is immoral and, as I have pointed out, dangerous.

 

You assume too much. YOU aren't the ONLY person who "gets" it.

Your view and overall solution is proven to be UNTENABLE in reality overall.

How about YOU getting 'real'?

What? Sex is sex... neither moral nor immoral. Still, I believe people should be responsible about it.

Well, your morality isn't going to resolve the problems and never really has. Scores of people aren't going to adhere to YOUR moral values; that is reality.

 

The solution is simple; stop enabling and giving poor behavior a pass. I grew up in a very bad situation. But instead of using it as an accuse to act out, I determined to get help for the issues I had, be accountable for myself and NOT allow my past to dictate my future. Most homosexuality and drug abuse is the result of damaging childhoods. We need to stop enabling offenders and promote peoples ability to pull themselves out of any hole. the human being is capable of so much more than we give it credit. yet our society has completely made blaming others the norm. that is wrong and has destroyed so much in this country.

 

You are so right, scores of people do not have to conform to my kind of morality. AND scores of people are running around infected with STDs and broken hearted from screwed up relationships... If you are going to embrace your type of If it feels good, do it" system, you can't hide your head in the sand and complain that we have all these damaged, sick people running around. Cause and effect