Structural Discrimination: The Unequal Opportunity Race

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  1. WallStreetVixen

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    White Privilege died a long time ago, as people have been forcing integration for many years.
     
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  3. ErikBEggs

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    Integration has nothing to do with white privilege.

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    I live it. Here are some examples though. Good luck disproving them all. You won't be able to.

     
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    How is the US Justice System institutional racism??

    Affirmative Action

    SBA’s 8(a) Business Development program (Also known as the minority-owned business program)

    the Minority and Socially Disadvantaged Farmers Assistance (MSDA). Advisory Committee on Minority Farmers which helps shape ag policy... but I'll be nice and count it as one.

    Minority College Scholarships funded by the government http://www.collegescholarships.org/grants/minority.htm

    White House Initiative on Educational Excellence for African Americans
     
  5. ErikBEggs

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    Think.

    None of that discriminates against whites.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    Good, then I'll start disproving them one-by-one. You don't live "anything", you just conformed what you see to how you believe the world works.

    1) This depends on the neighborhood, segregated housing is historic in the Northern States. In my city of Yeadon for instance, I live as a 20% minority.

    This has nothing to do with race and everything to do with geographic location.

    2) This is a repeat of #1, only it exists as much, if not moreso for the Black Community. Indeed, their own scholarships, colleges, etc. European-Americans can't even racially unionize if they wanted to.

    3) Maybe in a pre-credit score world. But credit discriminates unilaterally. That's why tourism and travel's gone down over the years.

    4) Depends, no one ever said being "White" meant the other white male or female would be 'kind' to you, that's just your preconception, I have no such preconception.

    5) And you can't? That's called stalking and it's a crime, Get help

    6) I guess so, we're 80% of the population. So, what should we do? Tan enough Whites until they're black? Or kill enough Whites until we're in direct proportion to blacks?

    7) They certainly didn't do much. I mean, seriously. 'Sorry you couldn't contribute, it's our fault your behind.'

    8 ) WTF is this? I thought we were talking about African/African-Americans, not Jews. Who denied African existence or their right to exist?

    9) And our president published two books. Your point?

    10)Not really. Your voice is 'heard' but not considered. Same thing in 'diverse groups'

    (I'll address the rest later, this'll suffice)
     
  7. ErikBEggs

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    You don't know anything about me so don't make it personal.
     
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    It's an astute observation. You don't wake up thinking 'Thank God I'm White' and guess what? Neither do I.
     
  9. Gatewood

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    Well you see the problem with that is that there's a danger that logical people will say that there's no longer a need for all these special advantage laws and handouts without end now and so people who make a living or gain political advantage by race hustling are desperate to keep the Whine-Baby 'gimme! gimme! gimme!' gravy train in operation. The implication is that it will never end because by their definitions nothing can ever get any better. I mean sure Barack Obama became president, but then he turned out to be a total screw-up. So the race-hustler's method of dealing with that? "Racism! A White Democratic president would not have been treated that way!"

    So forth and so on. You have got to admit that this race hustling stuff is a really sweet scam. Easy hours, high pay. No worries. Nice!
     
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    They never get old, do they? But you gotta wonder what's in it for PF's chronic race hustlers since they always get a sampling of the same replies that blow their self-serving whinebaby rationalizations out of the water. Perhaps they believe that if they keep spamming the forums with this stuff they will eventually succeed in returning to the 'good ol' days' when nobody dared utter a counter perspective to their Political Correctness crap.
     
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    Darn, that's a funny list. Mostly true for every race, but whatever. I can name one huge privilege of being a minority. If I'm anywhere near the top of my class graduating H.S., an overachiever, I get a free ride into my early to mid 20s through scholarships. Now compared to a white male, who is competing with millions of others who are essentially just like me, explain why one's skin color should afford you such an advantage even though you've accomplished the same or less than millions of white kids? Now take that into adulthood and your first job. If you did well in college, you are GUARANTEED every possible jump to the top of the pile if you know how to interview properly. HR staff will bend over backwards for you, set you on top of the pile and offer you positions you aren't necessarily even qualified for in order to diversify their associate portfolio....being a black female is BONUS points in HR language. If your company uses real photos of associates on their website, expect to be the new face on insertcompanyname.com. NO JOKE!!!! The company can be 90% white guys, but the website will have 1 old or extremely young white guy, multiple females of black, Latino and Asian heritage and 1 as obvious as possible LGBT persuasion. There's an art to it. DIVERSITY is a big selling point now.
     
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    Really? So can a white male farmer get one of these grants for minority farmers? No? Why not? What is it that disqualifies him? The color of his skin.
     
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    You are out in left field. Once again you are missing the point. Discrimination is exclusionary. Hence, the logical fallacy in your argument. You have to prove that white farmers are some how not being able to practice farming for the argument to have any merit as far as "discrimination."

    Rights =/= grants. Minorities often have their RIGHTS violated. White people don't have that problem.
     
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    How the (*)(*)(*)(*) is that not racism??
     
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    Racist people often have trouble with what racism is. Such as people like you.
     
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    You are failing to look at this from the standpoint of race hustlers. It's not racism to discriminate against Whites because Whites DESERVE to be discriminated against. See? Now once you understand that central credo of race hustlers everything else just falls into place.
     
  17. ErikBEggs

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    Racism is denying someone a right based on the color of the skin. Racism is not pushing a scholarship initiative that targets an ethnic group.
     
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    Hahahahaha! You just defined the essence of leftwing racism . . . without even realizing you were doing it . . . :clapping:
     
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    No, I did not.

    Nice try. Show me a case where a white man is being denied a citizen RIGHT based off being white.
     
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    Please explain to me how denying someone government assistance because of the color of his skin is not racism.
     
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    Let's see now . . . "Young White boy you are being discriminated against due to the color of your skin by not being allowed into this college or being denied this job where people with darker skin color are being pushed to the head of the line despite not having your grades;" and the beat goes on and on, and the key to it is that it will never ever end if race hustlers have their way.

    Now so far they have had their way but there are indications here and there that the good times and fancy flavors are going to come to an end. Thus the increased panic of late among them. Well, the panic and swelling rage and increasing incidents of race-based hatreds they are displaying. Sweet!
     
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    So if the government created initiatives that gave money to white people and denied it to black people based on NOTHING more than the color of their skin, you would be perfectly fine with that and it wouldn't be racism would it?
     
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    Government assistance in the form of a GRANT is not a RIGHT. It really is that simple. If the government were denying whites food stamps because they were white, you would have a case.
     
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    Logic . . . gotta love it. :thumbsup:
     
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    Yes I would be ok with that. An initiative is not a human right.. it is an INITIATIVE. It is catered to an ethnic group for a purpose, usually socioeconomic assistance.
     

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