Student says teacher pulled off her 'Women For Trump' pin

You don’t realize that he physically removed it from her, and placed it on his own shirt (upside down)??

 

If this report is accurate, the teacher had no right to put his hands on any student, regardless of what she was wearing. If he did as reported he should be fired.

 

He needs to be arrested for assault on a minor, stripped of his teaching credentials and pension benefits.

 

Student says teacher pulled off her 'Women For Trump' pin

I’m still waiting for someone to harass me for wearing my Make America Great wardrobe. I mean it’s red and it states “Great Again”. I think the left knows that us conservatives in AZ are always carrying.

 

So you dont know what assault is?

 

"What does it matter now?"

 

If it's true, the teacher should be dealt with appropriately.

 

First off, apparently you do not have or had teen girls. Teen girls won't wear a pin because their parents want them to. They might wear it out of the house, but it would quickly go into the backpack once they are at school so I suspect these girls were wearing the pin because they actually support Trump. I do agree that more than likely that their parents are also Trump supporters as generally speaking, children will generally follow their parents political views.

My girls, I've always advocated to them to not take what I say as gospel because I AM biased. Even if if I try not to be biased, it's an innate human trait to be tribal and yes, being part of a political party or ideology is tribal. I ask them to take what I say and then look at what the other side is saying and then form their own opinion. One of my daughters is a libertarian and the other is a social democrats. I support both of their views.

Secondly, you only hear of students getting attacked who support Trump or conservative values. You do not hear educating staff commenting on students wearing Hillary t-shirts or feel the Burn shirts or even black's for Obama. It's only conservative students who show any signs of supporting their candidate. There are AMPLE videos of such attacks against conservative students, yet there are only a few samplings of conservatives doing similar acts of violence.

In short, that the left continues to do, is make it painful or dirty to have varying views of their own. To beliitle and berate because you do not agree with their ideology. That is the sad truth.

 

What the school probably has written into their dress code is that no student can't wear anything vulgar which is a vague definition and would say the teacher was in his rights because he finds Trump Vulgar. Not right, but I bet that is the counter argument.

 

What the school allows or doesn't allow is a separate thing. A teacher should not put their hands on a student to enforce a dress code. There's no reason for that. A teacher can use words to remind them of the code and ask them to comply. If they refuse, they can send them to the office and let the administration handle it. But putting their hands on the student and trying to remove the button isn't appropriate. I say this as the son of a school teacher and someone who always defends teachers against the BS they face from conservatives these days. But if these allegations are true, the teacher in this case did the wrong thing.

 

The left isn't some monolithic group you can hurl an entire accusation against. Doing so is lazy.

And if you think people on the right, not I said people not the entire right, have never belittled anyone for supporting Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or any other democrat, think again.

The real problem here isn't political, it's the use of good judgement. That's long been a problem for all human beings.

 

if it was revered he would probably be sued for racism and probably sexual assault to ontop ( toughing the breast while ripping of the pin would cause a trauma for the poor girl in that case )

 

I thought political signs even if worn were banned at schools. They are in Boston. You can't wear a planned parenthood or a choose life shirt either. You can wear a shirt with a cross on it, pictures of Jesus, Budda etc.

 

It never happened?

 

If you would have read my comment correctly, I never said it doesn't happen on both sides. There is WAY more evidence of it happening to conservative students than liberal students. Denying this is lazy on your part as try being a conservative at any public university! I do work for a major University (PAC 12) and it's in my best interest to NEVER show any political bias. Hell, I got lambasted for eating at Chick-fil-a.

Your last statement, I agree somewhat. However, politics is generally the vehicle for good or poor judgement, i.e. the teacher making a rash decision based upon his political ideology.

 

I disagree, there isn't more evidence of it happening. There's more instances of it happening with Trump in office, but there's plenty of evidence of it happening the other way when Obama was in office.

I went to a public university that was in general slightly more conservative than my own views. Neither me nor anyone else had a problem with it. I met plenty of people with a variety of views and suffered nothing from it. Sorry that someone didn't agree with where you ate lunch, but you are a grown up, you can remind them that to also be one and as such your lunch choices don't matter in the big picture. You can also accept that universities in general have more liberals than conservatives because it's the liberal mindset that is conducive to researching the ideas that change society. A conservative mindset isn't conducive or accepting of change by default.

Politics is inherit in human behavior. Our choice is what we do with it. If I see someone who says Trump is ordained by God, my politics can influence what I think or feel about that. But my brain has the final say over what I choose to DO about it. You cannot strip politics from human behavior as if it's some evil put there by the devil. Politics is just an extension of complex social interactions, which is an evolutionary trait humans have use in part to become the dominant species on earth. To call it bad or the root of evil is to say we deserve extinction.

And I did read your comment correctly, you are trying to position your argument from a rational basis but you can't keep that claim by saying one side is worse than the other when the evidence doesn't support it unless you cherry pick your evidence to a specific time frame. That's irrational. I admire your acceptance within your family, but it should extend beyond our families. Dick Cheney loves his lesbian daughter, and yet failed in the public square when it came to gay rights. It's easy to do, we are all guilty of loving our children, but practicing high levels of ethics is hard for all human beings, myself included.

 

Per the linked article, "The dress code for Mason High School does not state anything about political paraphernalia not being allowed."

Even if there was, if the teacher pulled it off of the student's clothes and displayed it on his own shirt, it was an improper action. Confiscated items should go to the principal, or locked in a drawer for safekeeping, not displayed as a trophy. This man (if the allegations are true) should never be allowed to teach again.

 

But they have the constitutional right to do so established in Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District. (1969)

 

Funny but nobody remembers you taking that stand when Ford ALLEGED that Kavenaugh was EVIL even after Fords 'witnesses' admitted that they had no idea what lunatic Ford was talking about. Oh but this . . . this is . . . different. Nonetheless I agree that unless there is recorded proof or at least eye witnesses then it is simply she said/he said stuff.

 

How can you take a button off of a female student's chest, and it not be borderline sexual abuse? Do you think it's acceptable to take a button off of a female student's chest forcibly?

 

Which I believe they have done according to the OPs linked article.

 

Good question, just keep the little Acorn brown shirt's filthy paws off our kids.

 

Still doesn't justify him forcibly stealing the button off of her chest, and putting it on his own.

 

IMHO, that's illegal. Tinker vs. Des Moines (1969) established that students had the right to wear political statements.

 

blue states, counties & venues (educational) don't care about legalities, they just make up their own rules as it suits them, with total disregard to the bill of rights & the constitution...

it doesn't get any more anti-america then that...