Students Told to Stop ‘USA!’ Chant, Take Off American Flag Bandanas

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  1. smallblue

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    Etiquette has nothing to do with the point I am making. The point being that simply chanting USA does not mean I am doing it for patriotic reasons. If I started doing it at a funeral I could certainly just to an inconsiderate ass.

    When you used "genius", did you mean that as an insult? Certainly that can not be. Why would anyone be insulted by being called a genius.

    I'm a bit surprised you understand basic sarcasm. That's a start.
     
  2. AtsamattaU

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    Lol! (Don't forget "uber smarty pants." He obviously holds you in high regard!)
     
  3. GeddonM3

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    considering the settings you are trying to bring up, yeah etiquette does have something to do with it. At a sporting event people are wild and chanting a many things, and how you are trying to compare that to a simple family get together or a funeral is beyond anything logical.

    if you cant grip that then yes, i have to say you are a special kind of genius. Honestly im surprised you are familiar with a simple concept such as joining a forum. enjoy your stay.
     
  4. Sab

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    I still don;t understand why one would chant 'USA' at a match where both sides were from the USA?

    It dpesn;t make sense.
     
  5. GeddonM3

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    people chant USA at concerts and sporting events all the time. I dont understand why people give a damn about others doing it.
     
  6. Lil Mike

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    I wasn't able to tell from the two articles on this I read, but it doesn't seem like the students at either school were recent immigrants. In all likelihood both groups were American born.

    Still trying to wrap my head about it, meanwhile, plenty of people immediately saw that shouting USA is an offensive act. There's a world of difference between them and me obviously.
     
  7. Sab

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    How odd. I don';t see anything to ban or curtail it just seems very very strange.
     
  8. GeddonM3

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    and there are things im sure English or Thai do that others think is strange. But whats the point of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about it because thats their way lol?
     
  9. Sab

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    So I am not allowed to comment on the pointless jingoism?
     
  10. GeddonM3

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    jingoism, really? id like to comment on your use of words, perhaps send you a dictionary :)
     
  11. Sab

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    You are welcome to do either. Ill have the Oxford English Dictionary(full version) please.
     
  12. GeddonM3

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    hey i would love to help with your education but you are not worth that much to me lol.

    how about we start with the definition for the word jingoism and go from there ok?

    Jingoism is extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy.[1] In practice, it is a country's advocation of the use of threats or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what it perceives as its national interests.



    so obviously this wasnt jingoism, it wasnt even an extreme version of nationalism lol.
     
  13. Sab

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    LOl? That is humour where you come from?



    And you definition comes from which august body?

    I have found defintions to include (online cambridge)
    Its is a pretty extreme nationalist culture where people chant their country's name during a rock concert or at a non international sports match. You would never get that in any other country I have ever been to.
     
  14. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The principal is an Armenian man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia

    Armenia is not America even they both have the same letters in their names.

    The guy was probably pissed because he thought that the chants of U.S.A. reminded him that he isn't a real American. He thought that they were directed at him.
     
  15. GeddonM3

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    it's known as just a little fun ribbing, is everyone where you come from a complete smug ass jerk off???




    wikipedia,websters,the internet in general. it doesnt take a genius or a smart ass english-man to find a definition to a word.


    yeah, but they werent chanting to provoke or out do another country, or tell another country they thought theirs was best. So yeah, once again your word jingoism is not the correct term here.

    so get mad and sue people for having pride in their country, or is there nothing truly important you are capable of wrapping your head around?

    I mean god forbid people love the country they come from. The Australians do it, they have their "Aussie" chants at their non international sporting events and ill bet 10 to 1 they also do it at concerts. Different countries have their own personal ways to show pride in the country they love.

    Mexico is another country that is very fond of chanting their country's name in many different occasions, hell they come onto our soil and have marches and talk about how mexico is so great and then tell us that they demand they get parts of our country back lol. You gonna talk (*)(*)(*)(*) about them and their people too, or are Americans only deserving of your disrespect?

    To be honest why anyone cares someone does it at a sporting event or concert is beyond me. Its really nothing of importance as far as anyone to get mad over, unless of course they are coward pc pushers or they hate this country.
     
  16. Sab

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    What happens next. Is this the bit where you threaten me with your extensive collection of semi automatic rifles then expire from a heart attack after eating 12 Big Macs





    Wikiepdia defines terms does it?



    The idea that you would chant the name of your country as some sort of entertaimnent bespokes a very abusrd level of national obsession


    Having excessive, absurd pride in your country


    Youll bet they do do you? No Australians don't chant national slogans at concerts. generally in teh rest of the world people chant national slogans at international sporting events.

    Many nations have my disrespect. Mexicans who live in the USa and aquire US citizenship then push their Mexicanitie and wave their won flag to show their non USness (I wish there was an accurate Adjective for being of the USA) are complte (*)(*)(*)(*)(*). At least there is a point to it.. Indeed its offensive whilst the US chanting at non International events isn;t offensive its just really odd.


    Mad? You are positively frothing at the mouth. I am neither partilcularly pro or anti the US. Indeed people who are USphobes generally get more ire from me than obsessive American patriots. Probably because I think America's heart is in the right place even if they make stupid decisions and alienate people worldwide.
     
  17. GeddonM3

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    lol no, i dont threaten with guns nor do i eat big macs or fast food for that matter. Are you projecting that i am some outrageous gun nut who weighs 450lbs. or something??? you are very much wrong in your ASSumptions.






    Actually yes they do provide definitions as well as history of the word and how it came to be.




    ok and? pretty much everyone has a level of love and pride for their country, how they may show it is their choice. you have your traditions and we have ours, if we were all the same the world would be pretty boring dont you think?

    and who are you exactly to make that judgement of what is too much? just because you or your countrymen dont do it means that any other that does is automatically absurd? I mean ill respect your opinion, but im gonna ask you not to pass your opinion as truth.





    lol wow, my comment was a sarcastic one lol. sorry im not good at showing sarcasm on a computer, but had we bet i would have won big. Not only to Australians do the Aussie chant at most sporting events,bars, and concerts but the extremely popular band AC/DC does the chant on their extremely popular song TNT and they also do the chant at their concerts.

    and im seriously not gonna take your word for the rest of your statement, because you can bet your ass central and southern American countries like to chant their countries names at many events. Maybe in your neck of the woods its not a preferred showing of national pride, but that doesnt mean nobody else does it other than us.

    you pretend to be educated, but its painfully obvious you are not educated on this subject lol. and to be honest you have very little justification to judge any other countries showing of national pride. I dont judge anyone elses methods of national pride, thats their thing and ill respect their methods or traditions.


    well at least we agree about how other countries come here and disrespect my country, but you know what they have the right to do so and speak their mind no matter if anyone really likes it or not. to be honest you dont have the right to NOT be offended here. we have that wonderful thing about freedom of speech, and we all have the right to speak our minds on pretty much anything. Ahhhhh our constitution, its a great thing. hell i am mexican and i cant stand how they come here to better their lives because their home country sucks ass, but then they want to say they are more proud of their home country than the one that got them a better life lol. oh well, one day that crap will be weeded out generation by generation.



    you mistake my bluntness for anger, im really not angry at all as im just the kind of person who doesnt sugar coat anything to spare someones feelings. Some people like it and some dont, oh well i dont care :) . I dont care honestly if anyone from any country hates us, but at least make a case about something worth it and stop nit picking about a persons pride in their country lol. And eh, these days i dont think our heart is in the right place, we used to be a country that worried about whats best for the country but now we are turning into a country in which its citizens only care is their own. we are a mess, totally split up over really ridiculous causes and its costing us a lot more than it is helping. I hope we fix that and do whats best for the country and our allies instead of letting the bums run us over.

    But i find interesting the last comment you made, about us alienating people world wide. would you mind elaborating on that a bit please?
     
  18. jcarlilesiu

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    How is chanting the name of the country for which one belongs "taunting"? Would you say that it was taunting and intimidation if the game were held in Mexico, and the Mexicans chanted "Mexico! Mexico!"?
     
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    Sure. Americans at all levels seem to take a perverse delight at pissing off their closest allies by rubbing everyones noses in the (*)(*)(*)(*). rom the top to the bottom.

    Your president has insulted the UK almost constantly since he got office.

    The US legal system believes it has rights to arrest UK citizens outside the US for things done in the UK which aren't even crimes in the UK. The US has never sent one terrorist to the UK but expect us to send anyone they demand. They de,manded we send an autistic guy who was hacking the pentagon looking for evidence of Alien contact. The US not only demanded his extradition but insisted that he wouldn;t have teh rights of a US citizen, finally our home secretary got the balls to refuse

    In Afghanistan the US has had no greater ally than the UK but UK soldiers are constantly insulted by the US command. I have friends in Afghanistan in the Royal Air force who after being on response and acting as fire support to US troops are demied entry to messing facilities on US FOBs because they aren't US soldiers (in contravention of ISAF policy).

    Whilst the UK has supported the US the US decided to support Argentina's claim to the Falkland islands

    and that's just the UK. Everyone has a tale to tell .

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    Sure. Americans at all levels seem to take a perverse delight at pissing off their closest allies by rubbing everyones noses in the (*)(*)(*)(*). rom the top to the bottom.

    Your president has insulted the UK almost constantly since he got office.

    The US legal system believes it has rights to arrest UK citizens outside the US for things done in the UK which aren't even crimes in the UK. The US has never sent one terrorist to the UK but expect us to send anyone they demand. They de,manded we send an autistic guy who was hacking the pentagon looking for evidence of Alien contact. The US not only demanded his extradition but insisted that he wouldn;t have teh rights of a US citizen, finally our home secretary got the balls to refuse

    In Afghanistan the US has had no greater ally than the UK but UK soldiers are constantly insulted by the US command. I have friends in Afghanistan in the Royal Air force who after being on response and acting as fire support to US troops are demied entry to messing facilities on US FOBs because they aren't US soldiers (in contravention of ISAF policy).

    Whilst the UK has supported the US the US decided to support Argentina's claim to the Falkland islands

    and that's just the UK. Everyone has a tale to tell .
     
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    The PC crowd is claiming to be concerned that

    American + "USA chant" = I hate Mexicans. Get them out of the USA.

    I don't think that down deep, the Leftists even believe that themselves.
     
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    That's our government, albeit they do represent our country but at the same time very rarely do they actually make decisions or actions that us citizens agree with. I'll honestly have to look into some of the instances you have described because I never heard about the autistic hacker nor have I heard about what terrorists you guys wanted us to send over.

    And our president, if you haven't noticed, is a complete dickwad and and ignorant jackass to boot. I have heard how he has disrespected the UK and especially the queen, but he is so stupid I don't think he understands what he does.

    If its any conselation I do appreciate the UKs involvement with our troops on the battlefield and in the past. If its 2 allies I'm very great full for its Israel and the UK.

    But alas there is not much our citizens can do about the chain of command. All of them are liars to the fullest extent, we vote for them because they make things sound so pretty, but once they take office the only thing they care about is their personal agendas and they do their own thing.
     
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    You think Glenn Lipman is Armenian? Oh, maybe you made a minor error reading the story, like I did when I referred to the principal as a "she." But speculating that the principal or that the superintendent are not "real" Americans goes beyond minor reading error.
     
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