Stupid ditsy American woman visits Pakistan... the expected happens

A stupid ditsy and naive 21-year-old American woman visited the country of Pakistan to meet two men she met through a stupid phone internet thing called Tiktok where people make short entertaining videos with musical themes in background. She went to Pakistan for a Tiktok video series she was working on.

She was gang raped by them.

The alleged assault took place in a hotel room at a tourist resort in the Pakistani province of Punjab after the three had been traveling to create a TikTok video series.

The girl told investigators that the two had also made a video of the rape to try to blackmail her.

Two Men Arrested for Alleged Gang Rape of 21-Year-Old American Travel TikTokker in Pakistan (thedailybeast.com)

 

Gang rape is legal in Pakistan. In fact it's encouraged if the woman doesn't cover herself completely with just a slit for the eyeballs.

 

Of course it's not actually "legal", but there are several parts of Pakistan where the "interpretation" of the law can often make it the same as being legal, in many cases. Like if the woman did the slightest thing to "invite" the sex, especially when the woman is a non-muslim. Many of the country's laws routinely go unenforced due to the values and culture in that society. In many of the more backwater parts of Pakistan, local officials and tribal leaders will apply their own version of the law, that puts all the blame on the woman for what happened to her, even when it is totally obvious she is a victim.

Pakistani officials are saying these men will be severely punished. But that still remains to be seen, because there is a likelihood they could go easier on them because the victim is a non-muslim, and because there were no other witnesses.

 

We develop perceptions through internet communication and those perceptions often fail to line up with reality.

it’s a shame that this woman had to learn that lesson the hard way.

good to see that they got these guys. I suspect they will also have the opportunity to learn about rape from the other side.

 

With the billions of people on earth, some have inevitably to be this absurdly detached from sense.

 

Even then she could invite temptation and be blamed.

“She tempted me with her eyes”
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A theocracy that believes the supreme being protects men from the instincts it gave them by repressing the females it created only displays the capacity of humans to embrace mindlessness.

 

Well, I disagree. I think there is some amount of truth in their philosophy. However, they obviously take it too far to absurd levels.

When European-style "sexually liberated" women meets with hardline Islam out of the Dark Ages, it is a recipe for disaster.

 

These are the sort of people we need more of in this country...

 

yep, one has to be careful of religious nuts

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

 

if she got pregnant, I wonder if Christians here would force her to have her rapists baby?

 

Probably only after the Democrats forced her illegal rapist to be able to come through our open borders

 

FreshAir, what you may not understand is, in ancient times, in that culture, women oftentimes wanted the man who had forced himself upon her to marry her. It was seen as preferrable to the alternative. Many men would not marry a woman who had lost her virginity. She was considered greatly diminished in value and her marriage prospects were not good. (That same mentality exists in many parts of the Middle East today)

An example of this can be found in 2 Samuel 13 where Tamar wants her half-brother who just raped her to marry her. When he does not, it adds additional insult to the rape and leads to her other full brother taking revenge by killing him. Even 80 years ago in the U.S. it was common for a brother to beat up a young man who had slept with his sister but refused to marry, stay with and provide for her.

Most likely what the law actually meant is that the man had to marry her if the woman and her father wanted him to. Not that she had to marry him.

 

the right would do that, cause they hate single parents and the bible says the rape victim should have to marry her rapist

 

pretty sick of a God to order that

 

That is almost exactly the same arguments I've heard from many Americans and Europeans, and that attitude can and does impact actual the legal process in many cases, with police not taking "date rape" seriously, "marital rape" being treated less seriously under the law or defence lawyers trying to dig in to victims sexual history.

And there are plenty of people who argue for more of this kind of approach and attitude, including people with political influence and power. There is generally more centralised control and influence in western nations compared to places like Pakistan (something many of the people above also argue against of course) but I am not convinced the underlying attitudes are as different as we'd like to imagine.

 

Who cares what the Bible says? Do you live your life according to it or do you only use it to try to attack and berate others with?

Until you start living your own life according to biblical concepts you have no business trying to throw that in anyone else's face.

Glad to see you're such a devout Christian.

 

blasphemy

 

Like I said, I don't totally disagree with this mentality, but Muslim culture obviously takes it way too far to absurd levels.

Any American Conservative could have told the girl it was not a good idea to be sleeping in the same hotel room with two men she hardly knew and had met through the internet.

 

Your defense of Muslims is similar to your defense of Biden. "But what about Trump?!", "But what about Christians?!"

It's obvious you're trying to deflect and derail.


Why don't we talk about the senseless progressive social-liberalism that led to this woman getting raped?
She was obviously naive and ignorant, letting her guard down assuming all cultures around the world were fundamentally the same and that any country would be as safe for a lone woman to travel to as another.

We all know this wouldn't have happened if she had decided to go visit an Amish community instead.

 

Unlike you, I do not defend religious nuts... either Christians or Muslims....

nothing wrong with GOOD Christians and Muslims

 

Is there a definition of the term "asking for it"?

 

You wish to kill her interacial baby? how racist of you.

 

I do not want to force her to have her rapists baby, do you?

 

It was pretty normal for the culture at the time. I'd say this has much more to do with the cultural background in the Middle East region at the time than it does religion.
You have a problem with a man who forced himself on a woman being required to marry her if she wants?
Do you feel that's unfair for the rapist, is that why you feel that is sick?