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Suez blockage is holding up $9.6bn of goods a day

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Same Issues, Mar 26, 2021.

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  1. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Driving up the price of gas and oil and any merchandise that travels through the canal. It will cause a rise in inflation.
     
    61falcon, Mar 27, 2021
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  2. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    It has a lot of surface area due to all the containers stacked on it and its sheer length. It's like a strong wind blowing a tractor-trailer over.
     
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    Typically the captains are not in control of the vessel in the Suez, or Panama canals, the local pilots are, which seems to be the case here too.

    So what happened? A sand storm they say.

    How did the vessel get stuck?
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/25/faq-suez-canal-ever-given/
    During a sandstorm this week, the ship was battered by heavy winds and the large number of containers it was handling may have acted as a sail, forcing it off course to become wedged sideways across the canal.

    Lt. Gen. Osama Rabie, head of the Suez Canal Authority, told reporters Saturday that authorities were leaving open the possibility of “a technical error or a human error” and noted that the probe was ongoing.

    Typically, Suez-based pilots guide the ship through the canal. Bernhard Schulte Shipmanagement, which is responsible for managing the ship’s crew and maintenance, has said that two pilots were on board during the incident. The 25 crew members are all reported safe.

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    If ever there was a justification for continuing to bomb the Houthis!
     
    Reasonablerob, Mar 28, 2021
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    And bombing people in Yemen would help resolve this situation because.............?
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Mar 28, 2021
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    It seems strange to me that being in such a "stable" neighborhood it hasn't been a plum target already for terrorists.
     
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  7. Montegriffo

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    There is a financial advantage in the ship's owners blaming the wind rather than mechanical failure or human error.
    If it can be shown that the ship was at fault it opens them up to huge claims from the owners of all the delayed ships who are suffering financial losses and also customers of their delayed cargoes.
    The possibility should not be so easily dismissed.
     
    Montegriffo, Mar 28, 2021
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  8. Montegriffo

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    This already happened. Egypt closed the canal after the six day war in 1967. They used ships to blockade it and the waterway was heavily mined. It didn't re-open until 1975.
    Ships had to go the long way around which increased transportation costs and the length of journeys from Asia to Europe but life went on.
     
    Montegriffo, Mar 28, 2021
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    It will stop the Iranians being able to close the canal at will, demonstrating why it needs to stay open.
     
    Reasonablerob, Mar 28, 2021
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  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    The size of the Canal itself closed it to the big container ships and Supertankers for another long time but it was enlarged.

    Not quite enough though
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Mar 28, 2021
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  11. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    It's sea level, no locks to disable. Sort of like blowing up the ocean

    Too many syllables for haiku but points for pensiveness anyway.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Mar 28, 2021
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  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    How can the Iranians close it? or the Saudis either?
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Mar 28, 2021
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    Once upon a time the pointy headed ones decided "Just in time" inventory was the future. Well, some times that becomes "Just a little too late" inventory. Time to stock up on cheek floss again!
     
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  14. Montegriffo

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    Same way Egypt did, sink several ships in it and fill it with mines.
    The Saudis use it to move their oil though so it would be against their interests. Iran is already blockaded by sanctions and it's inability to export oil so they are far more likely to do it.
     
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    Mines, missiles, torpedoes in the Red Sea. The Iranians through their Houthi proxies.
     
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  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Uh...this area always frustrates me as I can't seem to get the maps right. My perusal of the graphics seems to indicate that Egypt has a very big advantage here in that most of the Canal is IN that ancient nation and Iran is several hundred miles distant at its closest point
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Mar 28, 2021
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  17. Montegriffo

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    If Iran wanted to block it they just have to sail ships into it and sink them. Mines can easily be dropped by planes. They could do it overnight if they wished to.
     
    Montegriffo, Mar 28, 2021
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    It did. Nationalism and protectionism was a common thing those days, thankfully.
     
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  19. Montegriffo

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    It cost Egypt a fortune in lost fees.
     
    Montegriffo, Mar 28, 2021
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    I hope so!
     
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  21. Durandal

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    Sure, but hey, that's no reason to embrace baseless rumors. But I'm not going to sit here and deny it was mechanical or human error if something turns up to support that!
     
    Durandal, Mar 28, 2021
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    This reminds me of a story where a semi truck got stuck underneath an overpass. A slew of engineers were called in to figure out a way to get it unstuck. For a few hours they stood around scratching their heads and suggesting one solution after another that was rejected. Finally a by-stander yelled over to them shouting: “Why don’t you just let the air out of the tires!” Common sense isn’t taught in engineering courses.
     
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    They have had decades to do it, so I don't get how boming people in Yemen would stop them.
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Mar 29, 2021
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