Supreme Court rules against Trump bid to add Census Citizenship question

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Aren’t you disgusted this president was too incompetent to come up with an honest non-racist reason for the question?
     
  2. Texas Republican

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    It’s important to know how many citizens we have. Government planners need that information. The private sector uses that info, too.
     
  3. The Mello Guy

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    None of that info requires knowing if someone is a citizen
     
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    Citizens matter. Illegals do not.
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    What about legal immigrants? Do they matter?
     
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    Yes, if they apply for a piece of paper their lives matter. If they don't apply for a piece of paper, their lives don't matter. ;)

    Likewise, anyone in prison has broken the law so their lives don't matter. Might as well just make the death penalty apply for any crime, don't you think?
     
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  7. WillReadmore

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    No actual study shows the number of undocumented aliens in the US as increasing since 2008.

    Noncitizens are not allowed to vote, and there is no path that leads to citizenship for those here without documentation.

    So, what's the deal with you?
     
  8. Texas Republican

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    That’s very bright of you to draw a distinction between legal and illegal immigrants. Most leftists can’t do that.

    Yes, legal immigrants count.
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    Then you don’t need a citizenship question
     
  10. Texas Republican

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    Counting immigrants, especially illegals, skews the numbers for seats in Congress, electoral votes, etc. It also throws off all the numbers for federal payments to the states.
     
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    No it doesn’t, they’re supposed to be counted. So it gets all of that right.
    Besides, trump made no effort to not count them.
     
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    Disagree. It's a legitimate question. No idea why the court would rule against it outside of judicial malice.
     
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    No, they’re not supposed to be counted. The Constitution doesn’t mention counting illegals.
     
  14. Egoboy

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    It is a perfectly legit question, but Trumpy and the Bozos couldn't make the case..

    Not sure they could make the case that people over 40 be counted..
     
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    No it's judicial malice.
     
  16. The Mello Guy

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    And it doesn’t mention not counting anyone based on immigration status
     
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    Exactly.

    Trump is hardly a Constitutional Scholar.

    1) Trump has never read The Constitution.

    2) Even if he ever did get around to reading it--He wouldn't understand it.
     
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    The Founders didn’t anticipate an invasion of 22+ million illegals. They’d think we were idiots for giving the illegals essentially all the rights of Americans. They’d call us suicidal fools.
     
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    so why is trump going to count them??
     
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    Isn't that how it works?

    I think the population of the nation is divided by the total number of House members to get how many each Rep represents. Then, each state gets 1 Rep for each multiple of that size.

    Offhand, I don't know how they take care of the remainders in the division.

    The real screw jobs come in that Washington DC gets NO Reps and NO Senators even though DC has more US citizens than Wyoming and Vermont.

    Then, the electoral college gives an elector for each senator - which again gives little states more representation per citizen. Someone in Wyoming gets more representation in the electoral college than someone in California, Texas or all other stated except Vermont.
     
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    Just because the left calls everything racist doesn't mean it is. BTW, illegal is not a race but that may be to difficult for some on the left to understand.
     
  22. WillReadmore

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    He wants to seriously skew the census, very obviously.

    He wants census workers to knock on doors and say, "I'm from the government and I want to know if there are noncitizens living here."
     
  23. The Mello Guy

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    So why couldn’t they come up with an honest answer for why they want to ask
     
  24. Egoboy

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    Yup...sounds about right.. scary what's likely running through his head, when something wanders in there...
     

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