Susan Boyle assaulted, harassed by gang of 15 youths

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  1. Brewskier

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    Not in Britain. She has described her tormentors as daft laddies, and bullies. There's no hint of any racial involvement whatsoever. Look to your own dysfunctional society.
     
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    Apparently you didn't read the article, racial comments were made by the group. It's only an issue of which races are involved.

    Would that be the more multicultural US society? Yes, we have more problems. We're more multicultural.
     
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    Can you read? Obviously not. No one has said that there are no Muslims in Scotland. 70% live in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee. What has this got to do with Blackburn?

    "South Lanarkshire and West Lothian, where between 61 per cent and 87 per cent of the local Muslim populations are of Pakistani origin or heritage."

    does not mean what you hope it means. Blackburn is a village of 5000, West Lothian is a county of 200,000. 61% of 2 Muslims living in Blackburn gives the number of Pakistani Muslims as one. Also Geography is yet another subject that you have so little knowledge of - Pakistan is not Arabic!
     
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    White power! 0.o

    Aren't you happy? You converted me to the White power side! Woo hoo!
     
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    Feel free to move.........I promise you won't be missed.
     
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    You've given no support for the idea there's any significant muslim population in the town in question. And simply restating your press conspiracy doesn't give it any more weight as a systemic policy. Again, you seem to have very little curiosity about anything outside of your own bubble. Do you know the British press? Here's a more recent article from the Daily Mail, a famously anti-immigrant paper, eager for any chance to bash Muslims: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...Boyle-reveals-years-abuse-childhood-home.html It has number of direct quotes from Susan Boyle, but no mention of racist abuse, and no mention of the neighbour.
     
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    Your link is going to upset Brewski. It states that this same bullying has been going on for generations. Hmm, that is not going to sit well with his assertions that the recently moved in Muslim immigrants were the bullying gang.
     
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    Her neighbour, who was the one subjected to racist comments isn't "white" as you assume. The teen bullies are.
     
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    Well, that's not what the article directly says, hence the confusion. But indeed it looks very likely the case.
     
  12. Brewskier

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    You're attempting to portray Scotland as some all white country when there are enough Muslims present there to justify the writing of a book, which specifically gives the demographics of Muslims in the West Lothian area, which we are focusing on.
     
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    Of course I have.

    They are likely going off the same sources that I posted.

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/religionpubl...ographic-social-and-cultural-characteristics/

    Sounds like the UK is rapidly becoming Muslim. Let me guess, you don't care?
     
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    Here's what your people are responsible for:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/67...im-community-rise-of-the-burka-Koran-religion
     
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    Um, no you haven't. You just have a vague idea that there are lots of Muslims in the UK and rationalise away photographic evidence which severely undermines your case.


    No - here is the Mail article equivalent to the one you posted: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4636350/Susan-Boyle-attacked-gang-15-youths.html No quotes from Boyle in it. Subsequent article has several quotes, so clearly a reporter had spoken to her after the original was published. Yet she doesn't mention the boys being foreign. Is she part of the conspiracy of silence too?


    As has already been pointed out, there is a Blackburn in England with a large Muslim population; that's the one he is referencing. (All the town he talks about after the 1st paragraph are English). This is making my exact point! There is a much larger Muslim population in England than Scotland.

    You know, this discussion is bizarre. It appears that because I correct you on your false assumptions of Muslim demographics, you think I must be a bleeding-heart liberal ("Let me guess, you don't care?"). In fact, I've been to areas of England where there are women wearing hijabs. I instinctively don't like it, and I know it disturbs the local population: they talk of a separation of communities which feels very unhealthy. But if you really care about these issues, then you should care about facts - otherwise, how can you precisely analyse the situation to find solutions? Your strange refusal to accept the obvious likelihood of Susan Boyle's abusers being white suggests that ideology is more important to you than facts.
     
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    I've already produced a source that shows that upwards of 80,000 Muslims are living in Scotland. 70% of them are confined to the largest cities, leaving over 20,000 to live in other areas of Scotland. The same source shows that there are Muslims living in West Lothian and the other areas in question.

    She could have given statements that were not reported by the media sources, or maybe she didn't give any quotes indicating the race of the attackers.

    Great, so what?

    I've given my reasons for why I believe this to be a Muslim "youth" gang. It's consistent with what is happening in Europe in general. If this ends up being not the case with Susan Boyle in Scotland it doesn't detract from my point at all. Progressives are destroying Europe with 3rd world, non-European cultures. This is being done intentionally. If it hasn't happened in Scotland yet, it will.
     
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    You clearly have a strong concern about your way of life (and others') being compromised by immigration; as I said, I've seen that first hand in England too. It's a very natural response to seeing your society change around you. But you seem view everything else through that prism, which affects your ability to be objective, as in this case. It's not just a question of getting a few facts wrong - such bias can seriously affect your quality of life. I've seen that first hand too - for what it's worth, the only other person I know who subscribed to your theory about newspapers routinely protecting the racial identity of criminals was the most paranoid and unhappy person I've ever met; she became overcome by the sense of conspiracies around her, and her hatred of minorities.

    It's clear we won't see eye to eye on this particular issue, but consider that I'm not the enemy - I'm just someone trying to correct a misunderstanding. And accepting uncomfortable facts won't weaken your position - it will strengthen it, because it will further ground your views in reality. But I'd suggest clinging to your preferred notions in the face of contrary evidence is not a road you want to go down for too long.
     
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    My people? I thought you thought I was Jewish since you've asked me if I was several times even in this thread but now you think I'm Muslim. You are all over the place. Unlike you, I am not partisan. BTW at least get the country right, let alone the correct town. Blackburn Town is in England, Blackburn village is in Scotland. Did you find any non-whites in that google page of many many people in Blackburn village? Here is a clue, there is actually a husband and wife - see if you can spot them. Perhaps they Susan Boyle's neighbours one of whom was racially attacked.

    Oh, another thing. Did you miss the quote from Susan Boyle where she stated that the same bullying on her in that village goes back generations - like father, like son hey?
     
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    I don't think you're a Muslim. I never said Blackburn Scotland was the same as Blackburn England. I'm giving an example of what you ideology has created in the UK and elsewhere in Europe. Your failures deserve to be pointed out for what they are.
     
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    That article blows the premise of this thread right out of the water. Especially this part right here:

    But Susan is braving it out, in the knowledge that it will end when the 'laddies' grow up. 'I'm waiting for an apology from these people because it has happened before,' she sighs. 'There have been generations through the years who have done similar things to me and said similar things.

    Generations of Islamic immigrants through the years? Absolutely zero chance of that.

    End of thread.
     
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    Non-sequitur. Being bullied before has absolutely no bearing on what this specific group is doing, and she did not say this was the same group of people doing it.
     
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    "and said similar things." Your only point was because you thought that Susan Boyle was racially abused (because of your fixed racism) you immediately stated your wanted desire that the gang must be Muslim. Unfortunately for you, she was not racially abused. We have a gang generations ago saying similar things to a gang now, so perhaps you can point out how this evidence points to the gang being Muslim? Like grandfather, like father, like son. BTW, using your logic, as the colour of the gang generations ago was not reported that must mean they were non-white, but, unfortunately for you, generations ago, you could count the number of Muslims in any town outside Glasgow on one hand.
     
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    Again, Boyle did not say this was the same group. "Similar things" being said does not mean one group is racially the same as the other.
     
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    Of course it can't be the same group! They are generations apart
     

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