Ted Cruz heckled by radical protesters in DC restaurant

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Keep it up leftist. You guarantee a republican victory in the coming election.
     
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  2. Your Best Friend

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    So who did Cruz drive from a public place? Even if Cruz did isolate someone in a public space (IF) and made it impossible for that person
    to dine there in peace there is no principal of "karma" in our US justice system.

    That eye for an eye stuff went out with Moses.

    Maybe you are thinking of Mesopotamia?
     
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    Because folks used words? Seems odd to advocate such a thing.[/QUOTE]

    I didn't say he should have used it.

    When people see a handgun on your waist they are less open to harassing you.

    Another option would be having a lawyer and 5 armed bodyguards accompany him and his family everywhere, with body cams on all.

    I do strongly support the right of businesses to refuse service for any reason, incl. political affiliation.
     
  4. Think for myself

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    I have no idea what that garbled post has to do with anything I stated.
     
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    Not sure I'd punish the restaurant for these bastages. It seemed to happen fairly quickly and I'd not expect my staff to get involved as if could potentially escalate and jeopardized other patrons. I think the police, however, have recourse to arrest these people disturbing the public in a private business. Not sure the outcome of the said protesters, however.
     
  6. Think for myself

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    Or he can accept the fact that as a polarizing public figure folks will say things to him that are not always complimentary.
     
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    Aphotic Banned

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    Sure, but so do all authoritarian systems. The right doesn't get out of theirs though. They don't get to say "We don't have an extreme and tyrannical form of government, that's all leftist!"
     
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    Both parties infringed on each others rights, but lets just throw human sacrifice into the mix and call it an argument...
     
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    My point stands. Your rights to your freedoms exist only where they do not infringe on another's same rights. It's a pretty basic concept.
     
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    There is no such principal as "karma" in our justice system and whether you think Cruz deserves some sort of retribution for the things you imagine he has done to others or not is irrelevant.

    See if you can work on your discernment skills.
     
  12. Think for myself

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    Good to know, and probably why I never claimed there was.
     
  13. Your Best Friend

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    "Which is where the karma part comes in." Do you have a faulty memory, or just don't care if your own posts directly contradict your claims?
     
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    I don't generally approve of this behavior while not on the clock, but this should now be the Official Texas Senate Slogan (from your URL)

    “Beto’s way hotter than you, dude!”

    EDIT - Looks like this needs to be the first bookmarked site for any Trumpublican going foward - https://www.grubhub.com/
     
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    The third option.
     
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    Thats not what I'm disputing. This was a conflict of rights. That conflict is written into law, and is why the supreme court will have to settle it. They sidestepped that ruling with this case, but know that it isn't over.
    Don't forget also, that despite the societal relevance of marriage, it is still a religious ceremony. That part doesn't mean much to someone like myself that doesn't put much stock in it, but to those with faith I imagine that it means a whole lot.
    I obviously have my opinion on the case and you have yours, which is fine. My point is that the Red Hen and baker incidents are completely different. For the record though, the owner of the Red Hen does have the right to refuse service as the only discrimination was political. They did not have the right to further harass the family. However, it says something about her quality of character to do so for purely political reasons (and yours if you would refuse service.)
     
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    I remember a similar argument the Nazis used against the Jews in the 30s against the Jews. They deserve to be subjugated and harassed because they don't believe what we believe. Interesting bedfellows.
     
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    Your remember that? You were in Germany during the 1930's?
     
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    Do you think memory can only be used from being somewhere and not from reading about it?
     
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    I guess if I owned a restaurant and wanted to avoid a national incident that could give my restaurant bad national publicity I would whisk the Cruz's into a secure area and call the cops if a mob entered my restaurant and went after a huge public figure like a former presidential candidate like Congressman Cruz.
     
  21. Think for myself

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    Oh, you remember reading about it. Totally different than your original claim.

    Isn't that simply going full Godwin? I don't see the correlation between Ted Cruz being talked to and gassing millions of Jews.
     
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    Oh, no doubt harassment is a different issue.

    What it says about my character is that I have certain criteria about the people I'm willing to serve. Huckders is a total liar and I will have nothing to do with her. I'd serve Trump. Pence.

    Not Huckders.
     
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    I can't disagree, but again this even seemed to be fast and furious (see what I did there). I think Cruz did the right thing in removing himself of the escalated event. If the restaurant asked Cruz to leave, it probably would have been the right thing to do, however, would have been conceived wrong. Ask him and his family to maybe go to the kitchen and wait out the event and then leave would have been optimal, but we are merely being arm chair QB's in that who knows how we would have reacted. Standing against the protesters could put in a political target. Protecting the Cruz family could also.. either way, could be a catch 22...
     
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    The third option? That would be you ducking your own words?
     
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    Actually no it isn't. I never said I was actually there in 1930s germany. I said I remember a similar argument the Nazis used. Remembering something does not mean it has to be a memory from eye witnessing something. Do you still have trouble understanding that?

    Actually I provided the context but its clear you aren't interested in being accurate.

    Here it is again. They deserve to be subjugated and harassed because they don't believe what we believe. Interesting bedfellows.

    Care to comment on what was actually said this time?
     
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