Texas protestors surround conference for Texas Muslims

The OP posted this thinking it was about a Islamic group protesting against terrorism. It is not. They are protesting against hate directed at their precious Muhammed. They say absolutelety nothing about terrorism perpetrated by Muslims against the infidels they are only concerned with terrorism and hate against Mohammed. This isn't that complicated to understand. It is a fundamentalist organization and ANY and EVERY fundamentalist Muslim organization should be watched closely. This group is the equivalent of the Catholic League where they attempt to bully other people that criticize their religion. They are the ones going on the offensive. The difference is that I don't have to worry about anyone from the Catholic league stoning their daughter or wife of blowing up a bunch of kids on a school bus like you do with fundamentalist Muslims who are vile disgusting pieces of human puke.

 

You're innocent until proven guilty,
not the other way around.

 

Where does it say that?
The OP says it was a fundraising thing for Sound Vision. And Sound Vision aims to produce content that helps build bridges of understanding among neighbors with emphasis on youth. They got a radio station, sell books, and have a number of speakers you can rent, etc.


All it seems that goes down, are a bunch of rednecks yelling slurs and thinking they know it better than their government, who no doubt as totally investigated that entire organisation and everybody that is part of it.

 

Sound Vision and Sound Vision Foundation are religious for and non profit entities whos sole purpose is to spread the message of Islam to kids. An apt comparison was that this is the equivalent of Veggie Tales which is a Christian propaganda tool used on kids.

Islam is a desplorable and despicable ideology that simply cannot coexist with a free and liberty minded secular society. Christianity has adapted over the centuries and now the most free countries with people enjoying the most personal liberties are Protestant/secular countries. Islamic countries.....ALL Islamic countries, not just some but ALL of them, rank at the very bottom of the list. Islam is a authoritarian, regressive, misogynistic deplorable ideology that needs to be confronted and mocked at every possible chance. The less influence that horrid religion has in any country the more freedoms will survive.

 

I have throughout this thread.. I win.. Your turn.. 2 Posts about Muslims without mentioning Christians come on you can do it!

 

Their speakers appear on fox news. I doubt its meant for kids. But you could say the average viewer of that tv station got the intellectual capacity of a small child.

Society isn't secular. And your idea's to say what religion you may and may not follow,.. is let's be honest,... that is rather fascist and has not place in a free society.

 

No one said there were no differences. And

Ephesians 2
15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Hebrews 8
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Romans 10
4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

Romans 7
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

2 Corinthians 3
13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law(*)

 

the topic is not me, get back on topic

 

Islam has no place in a free society. Buddhism has always been organic and more of a personal religion and Christianity has reformed to the point that it can coexist with a liberal democracy. Islam has not reformed itself and in fact when you compare it to history Islam has become more oppressive than ever with the rise or Wahabiism and Salafism who would have every female sitting in a burka inside a house making baskets 24/7. Islam is a disgusting and deplorable religion and until they reform themselves like Christianity I don't want a single shred of it tainting this country. Unlike you I actually support individual freedom and a woman's right to drive a car or go to school. Wherever Islam is the majority society becomes misogynistic and oppressive.

Just google their website it says on their front page that their mission statement is about producing Islamic propaganda for young kids.

 

freedom of speech and peaceful demonstrations are a wonderful thing. If this had been a Christian conference in Pakistan it would have been bombed and as the survivors ran out shot down like dogs

 

I haven't read the whole thread but I was checking to see what the body count is by now. Men, women and Children?? islamo women being raped and sold into slavery??

http://viral.buzz/sweden-surging-scandinavian-rape-wave-attributed-to-who/

 

Ironically this conference against hate refuse entry to reporters with Jewish last names after they had paid for their tickets and airfare up front. Not even Watters was let inside.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oreilly-factors-watters-tries-hard-to-get-into-muslim-convention/

 

It not surprising that the raging masses who call themselves Christians are ignorant of the Book they claim to believe in. What is a bit surprising is when folks that throw out religious challenges are equally ignorant.

Christianity is not just about the words of Christ but about belief in the God of the Bible including the OT. Fundamentalists especially like to use OT scripture in relation to things they agree with such as demonization of gay folks.

What does it matter what Jesus said to the fact that Christians spent over 1000 years killing in the name of their God ?

As for your silly and fallacious challenge - which presumes Christians actually follow the message of Jesus both now and in the past.

Jesus also recommends heeding of OT law in his most famous Sermon found in Matt 5-7.

The Israelites were worse than ISIS. The Bible says that the Israelites were instructed by God to not just kill adults but to kill children and babies of their enemies.

They even were instructed slaughter everyone, including children and babies, in their own towns if some people in the town were found in apostasy.

Christianity spent over 1000 years acting like Islamic extremists. Just because they are behaving themselves today does not mean in the future they can go rogue again.

What keeps the Christians in check in large part, thanks to the founders, is separation of Church and State.

 

Perhaps then you've been in agreement all along that there are differences, however, your reply did seem to take issue with my statement about American values being contrary to religious ones and you cited Christian scripture to support that so the examples I then offered were to illustrate some of the differences I see.

 

Neither is it Christians. I guess you cant even do one post.

 

The kind of society you want is not a free one, though.
You just want a society with only elements to your liking, like a fascist dictator.

 

it's a comparative analogy.... it happens during debates... as does the attack the messenger it seems....

 

Call it what you want it doesnt make it true. The Conference had nothing to do with ending violence or Christians.. You just cant stand that can you?

 

most Muslims in this country are like most Christians imo, they embrace the American way of life

it's the religious fanatics you have to worry about...

a country can't be truly free without religious freedom for all

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I never said it did... it was Muslims trying to stand up and say the terrorists did not represent their religion, nothing more

what was it the protestors were trying to accomplish?

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You still dont get it.. They were there to protect the image they want people to see and to blame the Media... Getting away from the Terrorists was not the goal. How many times does this need to be explained to you?

 

I don't disagree, I am sure that is part of it, they want the media to stop blaming them for the actions of the terrorists as they do not believe the terrorists represent their religion

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Perhaps not. And your claim that Christianity was "contrary to the American value system" is exactly what I take issue with. And your strawman that Christianity has "no difference" "to the American value system" is just that, a strawman. The founders believed that the principles of Christianity are the basis of that value system.

John Adams
The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.

John Quincy Adams
In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior. The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.

Daniel Webster
[T]he Christian religion – its general principles – must ever be regarded among us as the foundation of civil society.

Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.

Noah Webster
[T]he religion which has introduced civil liberty is the religion of Christ and His apostles… This is genuine Christianity and to this we owe our free constitutions of government.

The moral principles and precepts found in the Scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws.

[T]he Christian religion… is the basis, or rather the source, of all genuine freedom in government… I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of Christianity have not a controlling influence.

 

Islam isn't most religions. Buddhism was never authoritarian due to its lateral nature and Christianity is no longer how it was during the Middle Ages, it has reformed and adapted since then. Once again, EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY where Islam is the majority it ends up being a repressive, misogynistic society. Countries with large Muslim populations end up turning into what we see in France today with large segments of Muslims not integrating into society. WE are lucky in the US because we get the creme of the crop Muslims who are generally from wealthy families. If we had the same dirt sucking, goat (*)(*)(*)(*)ing neanderthals that Europe gets we would be seeing the same violence from the Muslim communities that Europe sees today. Islam is a cancer that is literally no different than any other form of repressive ideology like communism or fascism.

 

I never said to ban them. I simply said that they should be protested and mocked at every chance. We have no problem ostracizing skin-heads or KKK members or Westboro. But because the majority of Muslims are not old white men, liberals will never criticize Islam for what it is. A sexist, primitive, vile, disgusting ideology. LIberals are literally the most racist people on this planet right now. To refuse to criticize a religion because of the ethnicity of the majority of its membership is racism. The proof is whenever Islam is brought it is it ALWAYS 100% of the time, liberals who will bring up Christianity which they have no problem criticising and mocking because most members fo that religion are white and its politically correct for liberals to pick on white people.