Texas school districts mask up following Covid deaths of two middle school teachers

DeSantis has 13 notches in his belt after 13 school employee deaths in Miami, and now Abbott has 2 notches. We'll see who ends up winning this macabre race.

Texas school districts mask up following Covid deaths of two middle school teachers
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...-middle-school-teachers/ar-AAOcwT6?li=BBnb7Kz
LACY LAKEVIEW, Tex. —When classes began a couple of weeks ago, before the first and then the second teacher at Connally Junior High School died of covid-19, only a scattering of students wore masks. On Tuesday morning, every face emerging from the line of yellow school buses was covered.

Masks are now mandatory for students and staff in the Connally Independent School District, on the outskirts of Waco. The decision, made late last week, followed the two teacher deaths and a surge of cases in the community.

“As educators, it is our duty to keep our students safe and healthy. We feel instituting a mask mandate is a step towards doing this,” Superintendent Wesley Holt said in a letter to parents.

Gov. Greg Abbott (R) in May barred Texas school districts and other governmental entities from requiring masks, saying it should be a matter of personal choice. But as this school year began, with the highly contagious delta variant bearing down, several big-city school districts defied him. Then a court put his order on hold.

 

Before you put your calculator away, tell us how many notches Fauci and the CDC have for their erroneous mask recommendations.

 

I don't think people who are trying their best to help can be compared to those who are standing in the way.

 

Recommending against masks that are actually highly effective at preventing infection and providing source control is not “doing their best to help”. The anti maskers masquerading as pro maskers when convenient are not helping you be safe.

Was there any policy that prevented the teachers who died from wearing a mask (preferably one actually good at preventing infection) or being vaccinated? If not, how can you blame the Governors who have had their orders stayed by judges?

 

Ok, feel free to give him as many notches as you like, but IMO it still does not compare.

 

So numbers of deaths caused by policy are not your concern. Only the political party or leanings of those implementing the policy. Sad way to make judgment calls on hundreds of thousands of deaths, but not surprising. Nothing surprises me anymore.

 

What political party? Dr Fauci is not a Democrat (and neither am I), if that is what you meant, and at the time he was working for the Trump admin, which was not Dem either. In other words, it was a policy implemented by the GOP. Is that what you meant? Besides it was not even a policy, it was a recommendation based on the information at the time. So, that GOP policy does not compare with the bans/mandates which are pushed by the governors in question.

Isn't that what you are doing? If you think Fauci caused hundreds of thousands of deaths, then so be it. Whatever gets you through the night, by you are only proving my point

 

You left out the “leanings”. Many people idolize Fauci because he rolled his eyes at Trump’s ridiculous statements. How do you explain the acceptance of Fauci’s disinformation if it’s not politically motivated? I can point out times Fauci outright lied, and one political faction will defend the outright lie without fail. It doesn’t matter what party he belongs to, he is seen as the antithesis of Trump so his advice not based on evidence is accepted based on politics even though it’s easily demonstrated to be false.

Same thing with the mask mandate bans. Republicans who claim to hate authoritarianism support authoritarianism they think combats authoritarianism. No logic to this or to acceptance of mis/disinformation from Fauci. All politic—and both end up killing people. But by the numbers Republican Governors are pikers compared to the likes of Fauci.

I don’t “think” he did. It’s bleeding obvious to a critical thinker. Just like it’s bleeding obvious these Governors are responsible for lost lives. It’s just a fact based on solid evidence. And no, I’m not judging on politics. I’m calling them all out and attempting to get you to take off the partisan blinders and join me in basing our decisions on evidence, not tribalism.

I don’t have to tell myself anything to get through the night. I’m at complete peace with Covid. I’m just sad you all were put at risk you didn’t have to take. You all have been lying to yourselves the whole pandemic. Taking mitigation actions that are minimally effective and completely ignoring mitigations that can be much more effective. If someone points out the better mitigations and conclusively shows with evidence why they are better, they are shouted down as right wing conspiracy theorists by one side and called liberal looneys by the other—even me—a raging socialist who touts personal responsibility and has no party affiliation. Nobody wants facts or protection from Covid. They just want to play tit for tat political games with people’s lives.

 

You're assuming that masks over the faces of kids, while they constantly pull them down, touch them, then touch everything else would have stopped these deaths. If you believe that, you're more naive that I thought.

 

Ok, so Fauci is not a member of either political party, but certain people insist on associating with with the Democratic party, so they can call his advice "partisan politics". And you believe it. I am not trying to change your mind, - if you want to think Fauci has an evil agenda to get Americans killed then so be it. Others might argue that many more would have died if his recommendations had not been followed. Even here in Florida we wore masks practically everywhere (as per his recommendations) until few months ago. I believe it prevented many from getting sick.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

 

mask mandates, or lack of mandates, should be enacted by local governments, not fed or state.

Each area is different and local governments are the closest to their situation

Just because a politician got elected to a state or fed position doesn't mean they are more capable or wiser.

 

They are. The CDC only issues advice and recommendations.

Fauci was not elected. He has acted as a medical advisor to every president since Reagan. "W" even awarded him with Presidential Medal of Freedom for his work with AIDS, so he does know what he is talking about. People didn't start kicking mud on him until Trump started insulting and shifting blame on him. Follow / imitate the leader.

 

I’ve never called his advice partisan political nor would I. I have on numerous occasions on PF said I will not try and determine his motives. I can only judge the quality of his advice.

Let’s try analogy. There is a huge 20 vehicle accident on the interstate. An ambulance with a paramedic and an EMT and a fire/rescue vehicle full of firemen, jaws of life, medical equipment, etc. are traveling past the accident to attend a job fair at the local high school. They observe the carnage as they slow down to avoid it. There are cars smoking about to burst into flames. Many cars are crushed with their victims trapped inside. Other victims are sprawled around or stumbling around in shock. The EMT opens the back of the ambulance and tosses out a bottle of oxygen, a coupe chest seals, and a blanket. The driver of the ambulance weaves around the wrecked cars and when clear speeds off to the job fair. The fire/rescue vehicle is larger and less nimble so takes longer to traverse the wreckage. As it does, the firemen toss out a fire extinguisher, a few tourniquets, an axe and a couple hundred feet of fire hose. Then it speeds off to the job fair.

Once the fire/rescue vehicle is gone a dude in an blue SUV comes on the scene. He’s headed to pick up his wife from the airport. Even though he took a CPR class as a teenager he doesn’t stop either and drives on to the airport.

Some of the walking wounded and some “good Samaritans” use the axe the firemen threw out to open up a back window and get a kid out of a car seat. Someone puts the child in their own vehicle and takes the kid to a hospital. Another bystander picks up a tourniquet and applies it to a victim bleeding out and stops the bleeding. Nobody knows what the heck to do with the chest seals. The fire extinguisher is used to put out a fire in the engine compartment of a wrecked vehicle but two other smoking wrecks burst into flame killing 5 people trapped inside. When it’s all over there are several dead from treatable trauma injuries and being burned to death. A few survive because of the tourniquets and axe and fire extinguisher the crews threw out.

In the next day’s paper there is an article praising the ambulance and fire crews for saving so many lives and caring about the victims of the crash. It also has several paragraphs bashing some bastard in a blue SUV that drove by without helping. Someone ran his plates and discovers his identity and that he had a CPR class but didn’t stop to help. He’s roundly criticized because he didn’t “care” and is the pariah of the community while an appreciation dinner is held for the ambulance and fire crews.

Does this help you see where I’m coming from?

 

No, that is beyond ridiculous. The complaint has been that the CDC and the Feds and State governments went too far with precautions and wrecked the economy, and now you compare them to a fire truck which didn't do anything.

How about we just agree to disagree.

 

huh? who in the heck even mentioned Fauci?

My statement goes beyond that. For some reason, many folks act like elected officials are the best and brightest when that is the furthest thing from the truth.

 

He has been the topic in the past 10 or so posts.

Like DeSantis and Abbott. Yes, I agree. They should let the local folks, businesses and schools decide what's best for them

 

It’s only ridiculous if you refuse to think critically.

I’ve not made that complaint that mitigation didn’t go far enough. My argument is ineffective mitigations are still being recommended when we KNOW there are better ones. I’d rather discuss my point than your strawman, but if facing facts isn’t the point of this thread and it’s just more political games….then I’m out. Good luck.

 

please note how you focus on the 2 targets of the DNC media

psstt- your Democrat voting tendencies are showing

 

I don't follow DNC media.

I don't vote Democrat.

Any other assumptions you want to share?

 

uh huh

of all of the elected officials, please repeat which 2 that you just happened to name?

The same 2 who have been under attack by the DNC

 

Is here evidence that the teachers were infected in school? I didn't think so.

 

DeSantis just happens to the the governor of my State, so of course I talk about him. As for your claim about DNC News, I didn't even know these is such channel, so how could I possibly be watching it? Obviously you watch it more than I do. And I do not vote Dem, and don't give a flying rats ass if you don't want to believe that.

Given the fact that teachers are in close contact with hundreds of kids every day, there is a very good chance of it.

 

I did not say DNC news, just DNC as you know is the Democrat National Committee

the party to which you recently voted. Why are you ashamed to admit your Democrat vote?

 

You said DNC media. I would not know how to listen to them if I tried. You obviously watch them, and I don't. How else would you know what they are saying?

Why so dishonest? Or are you just saying annoying BS to get some kind of reaction? I think I have seen enough of your trolling (because that is exactly what you are doing) and endless suggestions that people lie about who they vote for. Maybe you lie about it, and assume everyone else does too. I don't know, I don't care.

 

Maybe but that isn't evidence. It isn't even a good guess given the rarity of infection in children. The better guess is that they were infected elsewhere or at best infected by another adult in school. The hysteria continues.