That's a Fact!

With this simple statement alone, you have shown me the inability to not only use clear and rational thought....but that you know not what you refer to.

Likely, I have a somewhat better understanding of the Atheist mindset, as I am living it. However, I also understand that the way I think is but one of the many ways to live without accepting a deity. That you see this disbelief in a supernatural being as a singular and organized belief system clearly indicates a misunderstanding of the concept.

 

I would not do that. The Constitution, rightly, is a secular document of law. The Declaration of Independence can be said to be the soul of the nation which does not prescribe to any particular religion but "Our Creator".

Atheists do not have anything higher then their own made up morality, much of which right now is based on religious teachings, making man the pinnacle of all things, God, so to speak and that is a dangerous path to take.

I agree with you about religion but I also find that Christians are not always that immersed in their own religion. All of the major religions guide you how to live and if you follow the guidance, you will live a decent life, but the problem really is human nature. We can rationalize just about anything. When there is a structure that all people can follow, it helps keep everything on track. When man is not the pinnacle, then it is more likely to go off track. I believe that atheism is just the short bus for abuse.

 

A resounding endorsement of the Islamic state!
Well done!

 

Don't know what you are talking about.

I'm not trying to hide my belief that ideological segregation is an inevitable solution to society's problems.

The underlying theme of my posts is that we need a better developed application of the social contract theory, because the dominating social system is about to fall apart.

Nothing gets past you - you super cyber sleuth, you.

 

Where do you get that from. I believe in our secular law. It is fairest to all religions including Atheism.

 

It is flawed. It was written 200 hundred years ago for a less sophisticated society.

It should not be that difficult for people who were taught that the United States was founded by unjust slave owners, to realize that a just constitution needs to be written. It should not be that difficult for elite intellectual secularists to recognize that corrupt politics is the result of inadequacies of the social contract system. It should not be that difficult for humble pragmatic conservatives to recognize that the government, like a business, needs to be reorganized, so as to deploy efficient techniques developed during the course of its evolution. It should not be that difficult for political pundits to recognize that "political gridlock" is the result of the politicians' need to be known doing something; otherwise, the constituents would realize that the politicians are over-compensated. It should not be that difficult for the sophisticated citizen to recognize that if the Founders of the United States were tasked with authoring a constitution enriched with the communications systems that we have today, that they would probably write it differently.

 

From the above.
Man should not be the pinnacle, right?

 

In some of your posts you have suggested we should also segregate the races, right?
All you are setting up is little states with clearly defined reasons to hate each other that will never live in contented harmony but rather have deeply imbedded reasons to fight each other, whether for territory, access, ideology or empire.
If you are the smartest atheist, the vast organized movement is dead in its crib.

 

Not as absolutely as you are probably aiming for - thanks for reminding me. The problem that I see with the segregation of the past was it was not equal in allowing blacks a territory to organize into a state, and serve as a safe refuge from white states. A more complicated compromise back then, than what it would have been in the 1980's and 90's. We still have a lot of black people who sincerely believe black people know how to do community, and believe that the white man is holding them down and picking on them because they are black, and that white people get away with the same thing because they are white - we still have black people like that - millionaire black people believe that is a plausible argument.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/347596/hip-hop-artist-lauryn-hill-blames-slavery-tax-evasion

The option is to allow blacks to segregate themselves so as to realize what it takes to perpetuate society.

It is a real shame you haven't the freedom of thought to recognize that racial segregation in America was flawed, and probably because freed slaves were not able to organize communities. Former slaves were not well educated, and had nothing and white people were not that rich to be able to provide the necessary accommodations. It is very complicated stuff. Yes, you are right, the easy solution would have been to force the white people to accept black people as clean trustworthy neighbors, but that was difficult back then - white people had it tough then too. There were no light bulbs, automobiles, gas stoves, refrigerators, and they didn't have schools like we have now. You think things like physics, psychology, and sociology, meant anything to the common person. They did not have time to sit around and think about things like we can now.

We are a different world then back then, and we know how to organize society - it's just that we are doing it with an outdated system. We know how to police states to ensure that people are not abused - it's just that the system is inadequate and allows for corruption.

We are heading into a civil war because of the chaos of trying to maintain the secular society that you believe in. We are accumulating tremendous debt - if their is no war, eventually the politicians do not show up to work because they know the money isn't worth it, or the citizen's realize that the politicians are not worth their money. Anyway you go, we need a new constitutional system

Just getting started - got to get you knuckle-heads to understand that you owe humanity the practical application of the social contract theory to lead us toward economic stability so we can deploy a robot-served society. Don't you want your descendants to have robots do all the work? Things are going to have to change for that to happen, and it is going to include a new constitutional system - who do you want to figure this stuff out? Christians??? Who do you think is going to deliver the scientific social system - who???

You waiting for the second coming of Jesus to deliver the better constitution???

 

Well, that is at least more than you have contributed to the thread.

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If that is what you desire to believe, then by all means go ahead and pursue a course of action that will cause your belief to manifest. BTW: Beware the opposition when considering the initiation of any particular action.

 

You have confirmed everything I said in my post.
If the new COTUS is in your hands we may as well just let it burn.

 

Typical response from someone either young or that has not read the background behind the Constitution and does not understand that human nature has not changed since then. What is it about your unalienable rights are unjust? What about the fact that slavery was "constitutionally" changed?

I dare say that the Founders were better read and more well rounded than any of todays "elitist" politicians.

 

It's easy to say that, but the facts of the matter, are they are contractual charged with having to defend it. So that sends it back on the people - why are you electing incompetence???

What's it going to take to smarten you-up?

And, I suggest that you need to write a constitution that is better than the old one.

 

Chalk up another convert!
Oh wait....
You haven't found a single ally on either side of the aisle yet. You have a 100 percent alienation rate.
Quite impressive, actually. I've never seen anyone achieve this.
You have done what no one else could.
You have unified PF!

 

Okay....that's a classic in the making.