The answer to stopping mass murder by the diabolically disenchanted is?

Once you have resigned yourself to the fact that all kinds of destructive weapons are easy to acquire for anyone who has their liberty, and that they always will be, you are left with the realization that the ONLY way to prevent mass murder is to identify those bent on destruction and incarcerate them before they commit the crime.

Since segregating people from society BEFORE they have committed a crime is not something that should be done in the land of freedom and liberty, then we are left with the conclusion that, unless we become comfortable with government locking up people who they feel MIGHT commit a mass murder some time in the future, then there is nothing else government can do to prevent them.

 

...and is the same as the 50's.

 

Actually, most of these mass shootings were preventable with existing laws.

Parkland was the most preventable shooting in US history, for example.

Then there was the guy in Illinois who shot up the Pratt plant....they issued a FOID to a felon.

Government incompetence is the problem, and people think the solution is to give the government more power.

 

freedom and responsibility go hand in hand and this is all dependent on choice. security is always an illusion, but a popular illusion. when the drones cry out for more laws, they are dependent upon the violence of the state to save them from the possibility of violence from their fellow man. when the free men demand access to the means to provide for their own defense, they are denying both the violence of the state and the possible violence of their fellow man. the only violence they are embracing is their own and then only when it is required. the free man's security may be no less illusory than the drone's, but that illusion is a matter of choice and not dependence.

 

The drones are also blissfully unaware that the police have no legal requirement to protect or save you.

 

that's part of their illusion. they actually think the state's violence, an every day occurrence, is preferable to the occasional violence of their fellow men. theirs is a lose/lose situation. they would give up their most basic right to protect themselves, invest that right in an uncaring state and become a dependent of a faceless bureaucracy. believing in the power of democracy, they become victims of their own ignorance. in and of itself, i have no problem with this. the more drones that die in pools of their own piss and blood the better. what bothers me is that there may be enough of these fools to affect the fate of millions of men who would choose to be free.

 

quite simple, really... just get rid of the masses...

 

My hypothesis is American military power kept things in order.

 

Yep, the basis for our laws (which are commonsense guidelines for a society), but practicing religious observers are in a minority.
Religion in the west is irrelevant now.

 

If they could show me a law that would actually prevent mass murderers from murdering I would be interested. But so far I see nothing but feel good legislation that even if enacted before these shootings happened would not have prevented them from happening. In the end I just do not see taking the rights from others in response to bad people doing bad things as a legitimate response. Government should be protecting and enhancing our rights not taking them away.

 

That's you most useful suggestion? You hit the books instead of the bong...

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24749413.html

 

But those are mostly accidents. Apples and oranges. Mass murders are not accidents.

 

Murder by drinking and driving is not an accident.

No different than shooting randomly into a crowd, after all you might miss.

 

I say reopen the asylums

 

... to stop arming them.

Most shooters aren't low-functioning enough to be housed in some asylum, and there is generally no basis for robbing them of their liberty until they act out. Added to that, it would be another massive taxpayer expense to lock up the vast number of wacko Trump supporters out there.

 

Return fire.