The Blue Muslim Wave: American Muslims launch political campaigns and hope to bring Trump 'justice'

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    Maybe we'll get lucky like London and in the future we can be assured that "terrorist attacks are the new norm," pointed knives will be outlawed, "hate speech" on line - such as criticizing the religion of Islam - will be illegal with all Internet companies required to police anything posted, fast foods will be banned, and sexy billboards and advertisements will be banned. No more personal choice and free speech crap. Everyone will act correctly or else.
     
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    I suppose you're wanting the KKK and other diversities back is an opinion you have a right to have.
     
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    Diversity is the antithesis of social cohesion.
     
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    Increasing "diversity" is bringing increasing social division, chaos and violence. The USA has more diversity than ever - and rapidly increasing conflicts because of it.

    Don't you think zoos should exercise diversity too? Put all the animals all together so they can benefit by diversity?
     
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    What is "an enlightened Muslim?" Which Muslim majority country do you say is more "enlightened" than the USA? Name one.
     
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    Diversity, Discrimination,… Let dumb people on Jeopardy!!!!!!
     
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    Definitely we do NOT want a return to when a blue collar worker of a 1 income family could afford a house, a new car, raise a family and not be on food stamps.

    NOW is much better where both parents have to work 2 part-time jobs and rely on food stamps. It would be even better if we brought in 50 million more immigrants and sent more jobs to foreign labor sweatshops because the USA has a SEVERE shortage of homeless street people. At least 25% of the population should be homeless because that is a more diverse society.

    Such is the platform of the Democratic Party and the quest for "diversity." To make everyone beggars to government.
     
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    Yes, we do understand why Obama and Clinton wanted to spend massive tax dollars to bring millions of Muslim immigrants to the USA, the same reason they want millions and tens of millions of migrants crossing our Southern border:

    1.) the super rich will pile campaign contributions on Democrat politicians for crushing blue collar wages and killing off the last of the trade unions assuring Amazon, Walmart, Google nor any other company is unionized and

    2.) The more people that are financially ruined and more relying on the government they more they will vote for Democrats promising free everything.
     
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    It is why Trump is president, why Republicans control both houses of Congress and why most state governments are Republican.

    Democrats need to go back to pushing for the right of pedophile men to hang out in women's bathrooms in remote park facilities and in changing rooms at public swimming pools. Definitely push for more diversity in the number of genders.
     
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    so when do you plan on returning to Europe?
     
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    I get to stay. YOU get out.

    To understand importing "diversity" just study Native American history. Native American population still has not returned to 5% what it was - and that is counting people like Elizabeth Warren who claim to be Native American with little to no actual Native American ancestry whatsoever.

    Mass importation of diversity is the destruction of any country or society. The reason European powers could destroy the Ottoman Empire was because the Ottoman Empire was extremely tolerate of different races, religions and ethnicities - while Europe was not. The result was Turks, Arabs and Persians were impoverished for generations. The most stable Muslim countries now are those that do NOT promote diversity.

    The lowest crime rates and poverty rates are in the North Eastern States with the LEAST diversity. Social cohesion is peaceful. Diversity is riots.

    When are YOU going to to protest those who oppose the diversity of those who fly the Confederate flag and attack white supremacists and assault other cultural diversity?

    But, then, as before your message is profoundly racist and the view of the Democratic Party - having no CLUE as to the distinction between RACE and CULTURE.

    This thread is cheering Islamic theology, it is that simple. Muslim is not a race, it is a religion.
     
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    It is the Democrat/leftwing universities that discriminate against Asians, isn't it? So much for "diversity" and "equality" being part of the NEW anti-equality PROGRESSIVE - meaning corporate fascist - Democratic Party.
     
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    The diversity that they do not appear to like, are whites, of western culture. They refuse to represent white americans, unless they are upper middle(the professional class) or the upper class elites. In fact, it would seem they prefer anyone but western culture white people in their diversity. Most of the racism actually comes from those democrats who see the poor working class whites and middle middle class whites, as stupid, uneducated, too christian, and deplorable, and use that blanket to cover everyone of that skin color. The way they try get out of being racist is by maintaining no one can ever be a racist, against a white person. ha ha.

    Thing is, I don't think many are self aware enough to even see what they are.

    Since ted kennedy, the DP has worked hard at social engineering america, working to relegate the western cultural mind that created this great experiment, in rights, freedom, democratic principles, into the minority, and having immigration policy that only brings in the contrary. What they were too dumb to understand(and that is questionable) is that the cultures from where they pull immigrants, never created an experiment like the US, and therefore do not naturally value such principles. Most of these nations they prefer are shi*thole nations, with cultures that enable those nations to remain sh*tholes.

    If you want to build a strong, winning, viable football team, you do not choose players based upon low football skills, nor 99 pound weaklings. The same principle applies to any nation that wants to strengthen a nation by bringing in the best suited immigrants. Higher IQs, education, needed skills, and a cultural aptitude to assimilate.

    It is not secret what the DP have done, and continue to do. They don't mind having a nation of dirt poor, low IQ(the lower the better for they are easier to fool and use as marks) just as long as those people vote for democrats. Of course it may be that democrats are mentally ill, and have a pathological level of self loathing, as that would explain the idiocy as well. But personally I think they structured immigration policy in the late 60s to be self serving to their party, and to hell with America!

    I have not problem at all with people who are not white. So don't even try to go there. I fully support bringing in all cultures, but only as long as they are intelligent, educated or skilled people, who will assimilate into american culture. After all, if they wanted their own culture, they should have remained in the nation they came from, who has its own culture, and maintains it.

    There is something called national interests. And intelligence should be used when choosing who can and cannot immigrate to america. Otherwise, stupidity creates one helluva mess on down the road at some point, as stupidity tends to do. They don't call it stupidity for naught.
     
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    Since the point of this thread is Democrats cheering the religion of Islam - since "Muslim" is NOT a race nor ethnicity - it is a RELIGION - let's hear ANY Democrat state why they want the religion of Islam added out our culture.

    What is it about the practice of Islam you Democrats want? Is it the bowing down? That women have no souls and are only animals? That secular government is wrong? Be specific.
     
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    Despite always pushing otherwise, "Muslim" is neither a race nor ethnicity, any more than being a NAZI is a race or ethnicity.

    Wanting to bring in more people of the doctrine and ideology of the religion of Islam for the sake of diversity would be no different that wanting to import a huge number of NAZIs for the sake of diversity. To advocate bringing in people of the ideology of Islam a person has to claim they want the dogma and rules of Islam made part of our culture.
     
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    A muslim that is in favor of a secular gov't, and who is educated is perfectly fine with me, as long as they want to assimilate into western culture. It might be hard to find genuine muslims who qualify. They would have to be very moderate muslims, who do not embrace what their Holy Books tell them to embrace. Like some christians are, who do not embrace the jewish law laid out in the OT. Which is rather barbaric, as any barbarian tends to be.

    Surely there are muslims who want secular gov't and think sharia is for idiots. If not, then leave them the hell where they are. We already have far too many americans who actually want christianity to be the ruling force in america, a gov't that should only contain christians, and the bible becomes the constitution. Our founders in their wisdom rejected that and instead thought there should be freedom of religion, so that one religion does not control the lives of all people. As long as such a religion has no problem abiding by secular law. No one gets to break our laws because their religion tells them they should not obey them. That creates chaos.
     
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    The problem faced by muslims who do want to assimilate, is they are rejecting their friends, and in some cases family. Their whole world starts from fresh.
    This works sometimes when Muslims are scattered throughout the country, but when they are in enclaves of other Muslims, they have to decide which side they want to identify with.. The religion is their life, more so than, say a Christian, because of the nature of the religion.
    Praying to your car 5 times a day will brainwash you.
     
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    An enlightened muslim is one who thinks in accordance largely with the precepts and ideals of the French Enlightenment as modified by the subsequent history of the USA. No Muslim majority country is more enlightened that the USA, indeed, no country in the world, muslim or not, is like that as the USA is FOUNDED on the principles of the Enlightenment and has in fact followed them more closely than even France or England since. The USA is the most Enlightened country in the world and it will remain so as long as the proponents of the various counter-Enlightenments and other philosophies which have beleaguered it since do not gain the upper hand.

    It is something of a misapprehension to speak of countries when you talk of the Enlightenment anyway, which is a philosophy based first and foremost on the liberation of INDIVIDUALS. Under Enlightenment, and American, principals, nations exist for the benefit of their citizens, not the other way around, and have no other real purpose. Enlightened people come from everywhere, muslim and Western nations alike.
     
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    Another Democrat who openly expresses contempt of Christians, meaning the overwhelming majority of Americans.
     
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    That was very well written and thought out. Congrats.

    Let me ask you, though, do you think the current USA immigration practices take ANY of what you wrote in consideration of who to allow it and who to stay? Or is there just a blanket chant that diversity is good - without any recognition that extremely evil and harmful values, morals and people could also come in the quest for diversity? I again give the example of KKK and NAZIs. Should we bring in people of those values as diversity, while discussing "but if they are enlightened KKK and NAZIs..."

    Again, MUSLIM is NOT a race or ethnicity. It is a dogma. Is it a dogma we want to PROMOTE adding to our "diversity?" Why then not the dogma of fascism, racism, anti-secularism, sexism, intolerance and xenophobia as dogmatic and ideological diversity - hoping somewhere in all that is enlightenment?

    Do WE change people who are zealots in such anti-secular dogma, or do they corrupt our culture? Since both will happen, which will MORE likely happen?

    What in fact is happening in Europe particularly, but also in the USA, is that ME and other foreign Muslims form ideological ghettos and enforce their ways only others within it - even if prohibited by law.
     
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    ^ For example, I do NOT see people of cultures South of our border or those from Asia, India and some parts of Africa as harmful to our society - and even beneficial in many ways - including diversity. Rather, I oppose 1.) the lack of control and policing to keep the "bad ones" out and 2.) intensely oppose the flooding of our labor pool endlessly - for which blue collar wages in spending power are probably lower than any time going back to the Great Depression.

    I see danger in importing Syrian and other such Muslims because they have been ingrained from birth and for the last 1000+ years of generations to believe in the antithesis of EVERYTHING that is "enlightened" about the USA at EVERY level - literally taught from birth that our "enlightenment" is Satanic and must be destroyed. That's reality, despite all sloganism to the contrary. Nothing against Turks, Arabs, Persians as a race whatsoever.

    I was a union steward in a packinghouse in a right to work state DECADES ago - and wages THEN were HIGHER than packinghouse wages now - meaning in real dollar-power have been reduced over 50%!

    What happened? The meat packing houses of Missouri and Iowa Beef filled with migrant workers at minimum wage (and even lower.) No strike could work because there were 10,000 people eager to cross the picket line taking a job at any price.

    Think of it. Amazon is now a TRILLION dollar corporation. Bezo is worth $150,000,000,000 - and growing, now buying up newspapers and media outlets, plus the controlling voice of Google - 70% of the Internet.

    Amazon warehouse workers are paid $1 over minimum wage. They have to pee in a bottle or be fired. They can be fired at any time, no job security whatsoever - and one step short of equally a foreign labor sweatshop. Why? There are thousands of people who will take any job whatever it pays - because we have been FLOODED with CHEAP IMMIGRANT as THE #1 reason - and the number grows by hundreds of thousands a year - that we know of.

    Yes, the super rich then demand LIBERAL social programs - that the government take money from working people's paychecks and in debt spending (that the super rich take in tens of billions in interest on) - so government pays for the living of 100,000,000+ Americans now who don't pretend they can find a decent job - so the masses do not revolt against such as Jeff Bezos - who I bet Congress - Democrats 100% as much as Republicans - have given the loophole so he pays $0 taxes. INDEED, we-the-people subsidize every one of the BILLIONS of Amazon Prime package shipping $1.43 (how much the post office loses for every package.) THAT, more any other way, is why Bezos has $150,000,000,000.

    Ah, but this is all irrelevant for the wonders of DIVERSITY! What a great slogan the super rich and the MSM and press outlets they now literally own sell us.
     
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    Muslims are not "blue", they are red because they are drenched in the blood of all the children and women and men they have murdered and tortured and raped.
     
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    It was a big mistake allowing so many muslims to move here
     
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    Trump is demanding a merit based immigration policy

    Which would put the brakes on the liberal effort to make America brown
     

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