The Book of Revelation Unlocked

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    I think it's time that I give you my interpretation right now. However, many of you won't like it, and my interpretation may get me banned. Understand that I'm simply just telling the truth.

    0) This is the Book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ. This book simply explains how Jesus enacts judgement on the world. This applies to judgement He enacted throughout history as well as the end times. It doesn't just specifically talk about the end times.

    1) Before you can understand Revelation, you must first understand who the Children of Israel are. I'm currently debating that with many of you right now in another thread.

    2) Edom represents European nations. Remember that Esau was described as being red and hairy. His nickname was derived by his love for red meat. Edomites (the descendants of Esau) loved to live in the mountains and in high places. First they lived in Mount Seir and then later, when banished north by the ancient moors, settled in the Caucasus mountains and then spread out from there.
    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom

    3) Esau and Edomites represent Caucasians.

    4) Jacob represents the Children of Israel

    The order in which Esau and Jacob were born symbolizes the order in which the world would operate. First Esau would rule then Jacob immediately after.

    Chapter 1 - 4 - Jesus is speaking directly to the 7 eyes/spirits/churches/lampstands of God. They represent 7 divisions of Israel. They do not represent gentiles. Only Israel.

    Chapter 5 - This is a vision that John has up in heaven. Essentially, this vision shows Jesus preparing to cast judgement on the world since the time of Adam. This may seem confusing because this chapter compares a slain lamb to Jesus who died on the cross. However, it makes perfect sense if you understand that when Jesus died on the cross, He died for every sin ever committed; past, present and future. Him dying on the cross gave Him authority over the earth and judge sin since the time of Earth's creation.

    Chapter 6 - This is when the 4 horses of apocalypse are introduced. I don't know why they're called that since the bible doesn't call them that. These horses represent the result of sin.

    The 7 Seals

    First Seal: White Horse - This color would normally represent purity and truth. However, purity and truth carries a sword while this rider carries a bow. So, this represents deception.

    Second Seal: Red Horse - This represents war. Its color is quite important, because Esau was red, and the bible emphasizes this fact. Red in the bible always stands for war.

    Third Seal: Black Horse - This represents famine and poverty.

    Fourth Seal: Green Horse - And this color represents death and the grave.


    These things were brought into the world immediately after Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden fruit. Remember, these and all of the broken seals are judgements.

    The 5th seal - Here, many of God's prophets are martyred for their testimonies. This just doesn't mean they were killed. This also means they were mocked, ridiculed, ignored and etc.

    The 6th Seal - This event happens multiple times and even describes the end of the world. This judgement always happens when dealing with the Children of Israel. When a nation captures Israel and does evil things to them, this judgement happens. It represents God's anger over the treatment of His Children of Israel.

    Chapter 7 - This takes place during the 6th seal. To be more specific, it's in the future during the great tribulation. The angels are prevented from causing serious harm to the Earth until the Children of Israel are saved first. This does not include the gentiles. The 144,000 represent the remnant of the Children of Israel. It's not a precise number. The Children of Israel only represent a very tiny amount of the entire world's population. 144,000 is suppose to represent that.

    There are people who believe incorrectly that this is supposed to be a "rapture" event. It is not. There will be no rapture. The word "rapture" isn't even in the bible. That idea is a lie. This event talks about the Children of Israel returning to Israel. That's it. Are they in Israel now? NO. If they were in Israel now and you are not there with them, then you're going to be in some serious trouble, because that's when people start dying.

    Chapter 8 - The 7th Seal - The silence in heaven for half an hour doesn't mean there was celebrating in heaven, and then all of a sudden, everybody was quiet. No. It means there's a small period of time in which nothing happens. Then soon after that, the trumpets are sounded.



    The 7 Trumpets


    The trumpets represent signs to God's judgements. They are warnings that His judgement is coming. Each result of a trumpet being blown represents something you'll see on earth that signifies when God's judgement is coming.

    First Trumpet - Large areas of land set on fire. This happens more and more nowadays and people ignore this as ever being a sign.

    Second Trumpet - Animals dying mysteriously for no apparent reason in large numbers. This also mentions ships. This is in reference to very rough seas - mostly linked to erratic weather in the sea.

    Third Trumpet - Bitter or contaminated water. This happens a lot too. People ignore this.

    Fourth Trumpet - Lunar and Solar eclipses. This speaks specifically about Tetrads.

    The Three Woes - This refers to the last three signs. Think of the woes as like a shot clock in basketball. When the last 5 seconds are ticking down, you hear a warning alarm alerting you that time is almost up.

    Chapter 9

    Fifth Trumpet - War or various wars will erupt. It doesn't necessarily mean one big war. It could be many - but the wars always deal with the nation or people who are going to receive judgement.

    Now, the war John is mentioning is a war in the future. He's describing machines of war he's never seen before such as helicopters, tanks, ground military vehicles, people firing heavy weaponry and etc.

    Sixth Trumpet - Many innocent people die either due to conflict or war. Keep in mind, these trumpets apply to every judgement God bestows on the Earth. These are all just warnings.

    Chapter 10 - John is describing Jesus preparing to enact judgement right after the last trumpet is blown. As for the 7 thunders.... I have no idea! John didn't write down what they said, so I cannot describe to you what they are or signify. This part may not be unlocked until after the end of days.

    Chapter 11 - The gentiles trample the holy city for a time. This usually always happens before judgement happens. Always. Usually before or around this time, God assigns prophets from the Children of Israel to warn of God's coming judgement. Due to the 5th Seal, people mock, ridicule and ignore these people. Suddenly, those people are silenced completely for a small period of time (this is what it means when the beast kills them). The locations in which these prophets emerge is always in the places that God plans to judge. The resurrection of these prophets means that after a short period of silence, they return usually slightly before or slightly after their prophecies come true. God calling them back signifies them disappearing - either through death or some other means. The earthquake signifies God's judgement, and that judgement convicting people of their actions and those people opening their eyes and praising God afterward.


    Seventh Trumpet - Large natural disasters occur. Could be a number of many different natural events ranging from earthquakes, hailstorms, droughts, etc.

    Remember, these trumpets don't have to sound off in order. The judgement begins after all 7 trumpets have been blown.

    Chapter 12 - This chapter describes what Satan tries to do to fight with God.

    The woman represents the Children of Israel. The sun represents the first era and the moon represent the 2nd era (we are in the first era now). The 12 stars represent the tribes of Israel. The son she is bearing represents Jesus Christ. The devil trying to capture the baby is Satan's attempt at trying to get Jesus to sin. He failed, and Jesus died on the cross.

    Now, the description of the dragon with 7 heads represents the 7 nations. The 10 horns represent 10 kings or rulers. The crowns represent victory (meaning all 7 nations were super powers). The dragon knocking down a 3rd of the stars in heaven represent Satan convincing a 3rd of the angels in heaven to follow him.

    The woman fleeing into the wilderness for 1,260 days, which equates to 3 and a half years. This is referring to when Jesus comes back and brings the Children of Israel back to Israel for the 2nd half of the 7 years of tribulation.

    John then rewinds and goes into more detail. He essentially says the same thing as before, but there's added details on the tribulation part. Some time during the end of the tribulation, Satan attempts to attack Israel. This is called the Gog Magog war.

    Chapter 13 - This chapter goes into detail on who the two beasts are (yes, there are two beasts!). The first beast represents the 7 nations and 10 kings. To be specific, its actually referring to the nations created by Edom. This is why the beast is red. That's revealed later on in the book.

    The head of the beast that was wounded and then healed represents the State of Israel. Not the Children of Israel, but the Land of Israel. When Israel became a nation in 1968, the whole world marveled and congratulated the UN (called the League of Nations back then). God's people represents the Children of Israel. Waging war against the Children of Israel refers to multiple events, including the atrocities waged by Rome, Babylon, Assyria, and even events involving the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade (this will be further explained later).

    The first beast represents what's now the UN. The second beast represents the United States exclusively. The two horns of a lamb represents the slight appearance of a good-willed nation, but it sounding like a dragon represents anything but that. The 2nd beast had authority very similar to the first beast. People worshipping means people trying to assimilate and be like a particular person or group of people. In other words, Americanizing. The miracle of fire flashing from the sky is referring to the atomic bomb exploding over Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Certainly everyone was watching that! The miracles on behalf of the first beast handed to the second simply refers to the fact that America was established by Europeans, and many of our science has come from Europe first. Those same miracles have deceived the world. The miracles it's referring to is science. I.E. evolution.

    Now, the statue created by the 2nd beast is referring to the Land of Israel, which I will just call the Zionist to avoid confusion. The statue was given the power to speak and said that whoever refused to worship it must die. That means, those who don't honor the Zionists will be called anti-semitic. That's what it's referring to when it says "or die". Now, this is just a statue, meaning it's something America established, not the Zionists themselves. Gaza and Palestine do not acknowledge the current state of Israel, and they aren't called anti-semitic by the Zionists. However, let someone get on TV in American and voice their opposition to the Zionists and they are immediately labeled anti-semitic.

    Now, we get into the 666 mark. This paragraph is still talking about the statue. When it's saying that people need this mark to buy or sell, it's referring to an institute of Zhazar Jews who run the financial markets in America. For anyone to be within that circle of people, you need the mark. Now, John wrote what the mark looked like, but it's impossible for it to be translated over the centuries as exactly how he drew it. So, in Greek, it looks much differently than it should. In my opinion, if you examine the Rothschild Emblem the "χ" looks like the stance the eagle, the "ξ" looks like the stance of the lion and the "Ϛ" looks like the stance of the human arm. It would make sense since The Rothschilds and the Rockefellers own the financial markets in both Israel and America (as well as other places). John did say this required understanding. So, what do you think? View the Rothschild emblem here:
    https://theyellowbrickroadfreeblog....04/rothschild-family-crest-e1336126033781.jpg

    Chapter 14 - The 144,000 are mentioned. These are the Children of Israel who have resided in Israel during the Great Tribulation. Verse 12 talks about another event that will happen. That's the Gog Magog war.

    The sickle being swung represents people dying. These people are the edomites who believe in Jesus Christ. They will die and be blessed, and their good deeds will follow them into the next life. The people who are left now are the wicked people who survived. So, now God is preparing His wrath.


    Chapter 15 - This chapter just explains that God is preparing His wrath. It'll come in 7 phases.

    Chapter 16 - Here are the 7 Bowls of God's wrath.

    The 7 Bowls

    First Bowl - Boils and sores are cast on everyone

    Second Bowl - The seas turn red and everything in the sea dies

    Third Bowl - The rivers and springs become blood

    Fourth Bowl - The sun scorches everyone. Temperatures rise.

    Fifth Bowl - Seems like all of Europe is cast into darkness. It only mentions one beast here and not both.

    Sixth Bowl - The ocean is completely drained. Then another war happens between the kings of the east and the rulers of the west. That could be any one. So, I can't offer much insight here other than to assume it would probably be China and Russia warring with the EU and the US.

    Seventh Bowl - A huge earthquake erupts and appears to split the US into multiple sections. This could be a series of natural disastrous events occurring all at once.

    Chapter 17 - In this chapter, we see further emphasis on the US and how evil the country is by comparing the US to a whore. The beast is still the EU. The prostitute wears scarlet and purple. Purple stands for royalty and scarlet stands for war. It then says how this whore is drunk off the blood of God's holy people. God's holy people are the Children of Israel. This hints that they live in the US (which they will later go back home to Israel), and that the whore delighted in the destruction of those people.

    Now notice how she is on a scarlet (red) beast, just like I mentioned before. Red stands for war. Red, in this case, represents the edomites, because the edomites were constantly at war.

    Now the 7th head which represents the 7th kingdom has yet to come. This represents the kingdom that declares war on Israel during the Gog Magog war. That happens later.

    This particular chapter is saying that the nations of Europe will attack the US at some point in time.

    Chapter 18 - This goes into more detail on the destruction of the US. Also explains how God calls His people away from the US (the Children of Israel). It also talks about how the various corporations outside of the US will mourn the US after its destruction.

    Chapter 19 - There's a celebration on the destruction of the US. After that, the Gog Magog war starts, however, Jesus utterly destroys the army that attempts to attack Jerusalem.

    Chapter 20 - This goes into a bit more detail of the Gog Magog war that the end of the last chapter left off. Satan is first bound. Then members of the tribe of Judea were given the authority to judge those who physically resurrected and believed in God, but were not ever a part of western culture or any culture in which the beast established. The bible calls this the first resurrection. The next one begins after the Gog Magog which is further detailed in this chapter.


    Nothing else past this point needs to be interpreted because it's pretty easy to understand. If anyone has any questions, don't be shy and reply.
     
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    You got off to a bad start because Edom was in the Southern Levant.

    Gog and Magog invaded Syria and coastal Palestine before the birth of Jesus and there is NO mention of the US.
     
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    Obviously. The bible uses similitudes when describing prophecy.

    Hosea 12:10 (KJV) says, "I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets."
     
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    We have a few dozen "prophets" in the US Aka Charlatans rewriting scripture just as you are doing.

    Nobody is going to attack Israel.. They aren't that important and nobody gives a flying fig.

    666 was about Nero who died before the Revelation letter was written, but many people feared he would return from the dead.

    You might spend at least a little time studying first century history.
     
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    NEWS FLASH - People are always attacking Israel. LOL! Lets not pretend Palestine and Gaza aren't still attacking Israel.
     
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    *yawn..
     
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    Your list is pretty good as an over view.
    Nothing in the list gives us anything much more than what Revelation, itself, says.

    Did you notice that the Jews have discovered that what we call Revelation is actually an ancient Hebrew writing which existed about 200 years before Jesus was born.

    Jesus did add the first three chapter, though.
    And in certain places Jesus had John write ideas like about the"lamb," things.
    But the writing is now studied by the Jewish students as an important prophecy, and one which they and the Christians both take seriously now.

    Here is the link to the Jewish Encyclopedia which explains all this:

    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12712-revelation-book-of

    *The Book of Revelation remains, under its Christian cloak, a Jewish document.
    The whole apocalypse, of which [Revelation22:10-15] xxii. 10-15 is the conclusion, is, like the "original" shorter [Jewish version] one which precedes it (in date of authorship), in every part and feature (except where altered by the Christian compiler) thoroughly Jewish in spirit and conception, as was fully recognized by Mommsen ("Römische Gesch." v. 520-523).
     
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    I assume you have much more to explain here, and I am very interested to see what you think Chap 11 tells us.
    The Amplified Theistic Evolution Bible uses brackets inside every verse so as to emphasize that the context is totally covered, and to be sure that every word, symbol, or metaphor is described as a part of the interpretation.

    First, Chap 11 tells us that the two witnesses are the Old and New Testaments, because those sources will be believed.
    Zech 4 also describes these two witnesses for us.


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    I don't think your interpretation jives with Mathew 24 15-31.
     
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    Cupid Dave, is the guy in the glasses in this video you?

    [video=youtube;8geuNgFTG44]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8geuNgFTG44[/video]
     
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    Its a Jewish document because John of Patmos was a Jew and apocalyptic writings were all the rage... Everybody and their cousins were writing end times predictions.
     
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    Of course it jives. You're talking about the abomination of desolation. The abomination of desolation isn't caused by a single person, you know.
     
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    You completely skipped over where Jesus returns in the clouds at the end off the tribulation. Not in the middle. The don't believe when someone says he is here or there. He does not participate in the tribulation period on earth.
     
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    The Abomination of Desolation is a statue of Zeus that was placed in the Temple by Antiochus..
     
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    No it's not. Antiochus died before Jesus was born. So, why would Jesus warn the disciples of the abomination of desolation if it had already happened?



    I didn't skip over it. I simply skimmed over it by saying God will call his Children of Israel back to Israel.

    1) When Jesus returns, he will return on a cloud to Egypt, right? (Isaiah 19:1). Egypt represents "bondage".

    2) Jesus is coming for His people. The Children of Israel. According to Deuteronomy 28, His children are in bondage. So, where are His children? Certainly not in Egypt.

    3) Why would they come at the end of the tribulation when the scriptures clearly say in the middle? 1,260 days certainly doesn't equate to 7 years.

    4) When Jesus refers to the false Christs, he's talking about people like you; people who come in the name of Christ, but are not of Christ. If you're looking for someone of Christ, they will need to be a child of Israel. The bible clearly says this. Jesus said it himself that salvation comes through the Jews (John 4:22).
     
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    In 167 B.C. a Greek ruler by the name of Antiochus Epiphanies set up an altar to Zeus over the altar of burnt offerings in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem.

    He also sacrificed a pig on the altar in the Temple in Jerusalem. This event is known as the abomination of desolation.

    In Matthew 24:15, Jesus was speaking some 200 years after the abomination of desolation described above had already occurred.

    Revelation 13:14 describes the Anti-Christ making some kind of image which all are forced to worship.
     
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    Once again... Antiochus died before Jesus was born. So, why would Jesus warn the disciples of the abomination of desolation if it had already happened?

    Rev 13:14 is referring to a nation. Not a single person.

    I don't expect you to understand this, because the Holy Spirit is not with you. It was never bestowed upon you, because if it were, you'd know the truth - which you clearly do not.
     
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    Why do many people claim they have the holy spirit, but they can't talk or believe the same things?
     
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    Because they don't have the holy spirit. Think about it. If all of these people have the holy spirit, then why do they all believe in different things?
     
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    Does this include yourself?....or just everyone else?
     
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    Standard cop out, if you have an alternative viewpoint it must be because you don't "have the holy spirit", it is almost as bad as "God works in mysterious ways"
     
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    This is just your opinion.



    Why would you care? You're an atheist.
     
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    no not an opinion a fact, if you are secure in your assertions then you should be able to debate any and all who do not agree .. to simply state that someone cannot know or understand because they don't have the holy spirit is a cop out.

    "This is just your opinion" is a Subjectivist Fallacy - http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/subjectivist/

    no different to someone saying you don't understand because you are not a Atheist or Muslim or Satanist or ..... etc.

    Of course another question to ask would be prove you have the holy spirit.
     
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    Obviously to anyone with the intellect required for rational thought or even minimal understanding of human communication...I was calling you out on hypocrisy and erroneous thinking.

    I also note your inability to answer the question.
     
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    No, Jesus returns in the clouds to gather his elect from the whole earth, not just in Egypt.

    If you continue reading past John 4:22 you will find that Jesus says that salvation comes through worshipping through spirit and truth in him.

    Mathew 24:29-31 specifically says he is returning AFTER the tribulation. Just as in the days of Noah.
     
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