The Capitalist System Is Decaying Because Of Its Own Contradictions

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  1. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    So, if I'm understanding you right, the other 90% should contribute more to the nation's income?
     
  2. LafayetteBis

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    The other 90% should not even exist.

    They are proof-positive of a taxation-system that is dysfunctional. Wealth should be better distributed - not all equally, but all fairly. Yes, the rich should have more Wealth, but not as much as depicted in infographic. Why?

    Because it is "indecent". Problem is, in America, we've forgot what income decency means.

    Life and living is all about da muney, muney, muney ...
     
  3. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Expand what? If Mexico was such a "hand-out nation", why are Mexicans risking their lives to get through the wall?

    When I talk of "hand-outs", it is in the line of what makes America a better place to live in:
    *We have one of the sickest healthcare system one earth. (Pun intended.) Because it costs so effing much since it is private insurance that is the most expensive per capita on earth.
    *We have post-secondary education that does not give 100% of high-school students a chance to obtain the credentials with which to find a decent job. Close to 40% slip through the cracks into financial oblivion, including the 10% who do not even earn a HS-degree.
    *But WOW do he have fine Defense Force. (As if fatso in North Korea was going to nuclearize San Francisco tomorrow.) Such a shame that it so effing expensive.

    So, please do explain how the US is the "Greatest Nation on Earth", because that appellation is not applicable by any stretch of the imagination for about a quarter of the population (including the 14% - 45 million - living below the Poverty Threshold) ...
     
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  4. Longshot

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    Wait, are you talking about income or taxation? I thought you presented a graphic that said that 90% of people only contribute 1/2 of the nation's income.
     
  5. Blizzard

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    You never invited me to give you the best example of your lies. Your very question is a lie.
    But read again that very message that you quoted.
    You suggest the public should be happy with a huge debt. Just like the "economists" who claimed we should be happy with huge debts, before the economic crash in 2008. Here - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-57#post-1068266903

    You claim that I'm a liberal and a libcommie, when my criticism goes against the "leftists" first:
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-56#post-1068266764
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-47#post-1068253033
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-44#post-1068245633
    This is one of the many messages where I said that the "leftists" are insane - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-47#post-1068250930
    This is where I said that Republicans are better than the Democrats (and therefore they are better than the liberal democrats and libcommies) - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-57#post-1068266806
    This is where I said "However, at this moment, the Republican 'simpletons' are an oasis of decency, when you compare them with the ultra-corrupt, bloodsucking, sophisticated and arrogant clowns, depraved, insane and hysterical leftist Democrats." - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-40#post-1068199543
    But you keep claiming that I'm a liberal and a libcommie. A good example of spreading lies.

    Mindlessly repeating an anti-welfare slogan to prove wrong a person who is against welfare.
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-46#post-1068250526 -
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-44#post-1068245238

    you keep spreading lies. I'm not a liberal, I'm not a democrat, and I would vote for the republicans if I would live in the USA.

    You repeat the "why so afraid..?" so you are trolling.
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-44#post-1068245649
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-56#post-1068266764
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-57#post-1068266830
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-57#post-1068266847
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-57#post-1068266806
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-63#post-1068271155
    Reported for trolling.
    Have fun trolling the moderators, making false claims about them and claiming that they are afraid.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
     
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  6. Blizzard

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    In the USA, the criminal gangs are not cutting people's heads like in Mexico. At least not yet. It will happen in the future though. As the corruption is increasing, the US government will protect the criminals against their own people. You can call it the "Mexicanization" of USA. Also the wages are much lower in Mexico.

    Here's a fine example for the kind of politicians you'll have in the future, thanks to the Mexicanization:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Louis_Santos
    When Esteban Núñez was first arrested, his father's political influence was evident as many letters pleading for a reduction in his son's $2-million bail were sent to the San Diego County Superior Court. One letter, on official stationery, came from Núñez's longtime friend, then Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa; one letter came on official stationery from Maria Elena Durazo, head of the L.A. County Federation of Labor; one came from California Assembly Republican Leader Michael Villines; and was sent by California State Assemblyman Kevin de León. His bail was reduced to $1 million.
    Núñez’s father was at that moment California Assembly Speaker of the House, Fabian Núñez.

    Dreadful predators, ready to protect the "cortacabeza" anytime for a little bit of money.

    That's because the "leftists" like you are happy to encourage the speculation of the shameless private investors providing the private health care. You said yourself that the government should not interfere in order to make sure there is competition on the market - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-43#post-1068232583

    - Because the "leftists" refuse to tax the rich.
    - Because the leftists (like you) want to export as many jobs to China - and to reduce the incomes of the Americans.
    - Because the "leftists" are happy to encourage the speculation of the shameless private investors providing the private education.

    But when Trump is not in power, the MSM promote clownish economists who claim that a war can create more jobs and therefore a war might be the solution to the economic crisis.

    I never said that US is the "Greatest Nation on Earth".
    By the contrary:
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-45#post-1068248051
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-44#post-1068244927
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-47#post-1068250942
    - http://www.politicalforum.com/index...contradictions.203432/page-47#post-1068251378

    Maybe you are confusing me with someone else?
     
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  7. Kode

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    Much as I did. I immersed myself in it briefly 48 years ago by joining an international communist organization finding out what they thought and planned, plus reading. How did you immerse yourself in it?
     
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    Whomever you are chatting with, I apparently have them on "ignore" and so I don't see what they wrote or who they are, but maybe I should eliminate all on "ignore" so I can "chime in with my two bits worth".

    Nah.
     
  9. LafayetteBis

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    As usual, you've got your facts wrong - this time about crime stats.

    For your edification: Mexico and United States compared: Crime stats

    Note that for the most part, the US is worse than Mexico or - at the very least - at the same level as regards key crime statistics. For instance,
    Etc., etc., etc. - ad nauseam ...
     
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  10. Reiver

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    Cost-plus only requires market power. It would continue even in autarky
     
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    We all have. Some just are honest and admit it. But no need to answer. I've always pinpointed your viewpoint.
     
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    1) if I suggested that I will pay you $10,000. Bet?
    2) a suggestion is not a lie! 1+1=2

    Your posts are long because they lack substance. Length is not substance. Do you understand?
     
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    so you are indifferent as between Hitler and Jesus because you lack the moral IQ to know who is better?
     
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    yes!! what is the most important contradiction is capitalism? Perhaps that West Germany did far better than East Germany? This perfectly contradicts what the libcommies feel; yet it is a fact.
     
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    econ 101: we tax the rich too much( top 1% pay 42% of all taxes). To avoid this tax they move to China. They have no interest whatsoever in reducing the incomes of Americans but rather in maintaining their own incomes and the competitivness of their companies. Now do you understand?
     
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    definitely not!!! It is Ecuador for sure! They saved civilization on earth through two world wars, recreated the world in its Christian capitalist image, won the cold war, became the world's policeman, hold 70% of the world's medical patents, freed 1.5 billion from libcommunism in China thus averting WW3, and are the last best hope for freedom from libcommie govt on earth!! Thank God for Ecuador!!
     
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    Where's the Econ 101? Tax avoidance isn't Economics. It is people abusing the system and forcing others to pay higher tax. They are exploiters, nothing less.

    Now you could refer to the Laffer Curve over the idea of right wing economic taxation (taking into account that supply side factors can lead to tax revenue reductions). However, the evidence tends to suggest that the Curve is multi-peaked and will often argue taxes are too low.
     
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    wrong of course!! A company has a fiduciary duty to avoid taxes.
     
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    ???? no idea what your subject is. If you do why not tell us.
     
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    There isn't a debate here. Avoidance isn't economics. It is playing the legal system in order to benefit at the expense of those who cannot
     
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    You're talking about tax and you don't even know what the Laffer Curve is? Wowsers!
     
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    Avoidance is exactly playing the legal system, the system constructed by those who created the legal/tax system. Care to rethink?
     
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    if you have evidence I don't know what the laffer curve is I'll pay you$10,000. Bet?
     
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    What's the purpose of a threads title if we avoid discussing it?
    Capitalism! Its own contradictions?
     
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    Your last post just said it. Can you stop with the immature bet routine?
     

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