The Case For a Black Egypt

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    Based on my research and scattering for some good information on the internet, I can easily tell you people that Egypt was undoubtedly a black African nation. I'm going to prove this through looking at the similarities between other African regions and Ancient Egypt, some ancient historical accounts from Greece, as well as historical accounts from people who went to Egypt, and some DNA tests that have occurred that give away the fact that Egypt was an African nation.

    Historical Accounts

    Vivant Denon in 1798 had etched an image of the Sphinx (with the nose). He described the Sphinx as an African woman.
    In 1787, French orientalist Count Constantine de Volney travelled to Egypt and described the population as "black with woolly hair", and "true Negroes of the same type as all native-born Africans".

    Read more here: http://www.freemaninstitute.com/sphinx.htm

    There's an article from Rasta Livewire titled, "Kemit Ta Meri - The Land of the Blacks", where quotes, ranging from Greek historians to DNA research, are gathered.

    http://www.africaresource.com/rasta...rcules/kemit-ta-muuri-the-land-of-the-blacks/

    Culture

    Here are some articles from a website "theakan.com", where they compare some of the Egyptian symbols with the Akan symbols.

    Akan-Asante Fertility Doll and the Egyptian Ankh:
    http://www.theakan.com/Akan Fertility doll & the Egyptian Ankh.html

    Akan linguist staff and Ptah's Djed:
    http://www.theakan.com/Akan_Linguist_staff_Ptah_Djed.html

    Akan traditional hairstyles and Egyptian similarities:
    http://www.theakan.com/Akan-Females.html

    I have a book entitled Ethiopic: The First Language, written by Ras Iadonis Tafari. Here are some quotes from various scholars that the book uses that shows possible evidence that Egyptian hieroglyphics could have derived from the ancient Ethiopic (Ge'ez).

    "From these facts it might be inferred a priori that there would be an essential resemblance between the Egyptian Hieroglyphic and Ethiopic, and this is true as a matter of fact."
    - Proceedings of the Canadian Institute, page 29; 1886

    "... The Ethiopians affirm that most of the Egyptian laws are the same with those of Ethiopia, the colony still observing the customs of their ancestors; and that they learnt from the Ethiopians to make statues, and the character of their letters. For, whereas the Egyptians have two sorts of characters, namely the ordinary characters used promiscuously by all the inhabitants, and those which they call sacred, known only by the priests, yet the Ethiopians use both sort without any difference or distinction. The Ethiopic beasts; parts and members of human bodies, instead of expressing any thing by composition of syllables, they express it by images and metaphoric representations; the meaning of them being ingraven and fixed in memory by use and exercise."
    - Diodorus, Greek Historian

    DNA

    There was a study done by DNA Tribes Digest in January 1, 2012, where they were looking at the DNA of the Amarna dynasty. They found that the majority of their genetic make-up came from Southern African, West African, Central African, North African, and East African regions. You can read the study done here:

    http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

    Alright, my case here is closed for now until further research.
     
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    Ive met many Egyptians who are not "Negroid".
     
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    Egyptian by Nationality today is different from the actual race of the Ancient Egyptians. And that statement by itself is ignorant; just because the people who now call themselves Egyptians (aka. Mulattoes) occupy that land today, does not make them the original people in the Ancient days.
     
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    ah, so you have photos of Egyptian people from 15,000 years ago?

    let's see em'.
     
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    I believe there is this book that you can get on Amazon called Unmistakably Black: Sculpture and Paintings From The World's First Civilizations, by Anu M'Bantu. I don't have it (yet), but the front cover says it all considering that it seems to show an Egyptian who is completely black.

    However, there is a website called the Freeman Institute, which is the first website that I cited as a source above. The article is titled, "The Nose, Lips, Gender & Ethnicity of The Sphinx of Giza", where there are quotes from people like Vivant Denon and Constantine de Volney that describe the race of the Egyptians, as well as portraits of the Sphinx with a nose in which Vivant Denon described as "African".

    There's also a picture of Tuthmosis III who looks dark that came from the same website that I am showing below.

    tuthmosisIIIRelief.jpg

    Like I said, more research is coming - soon or later, I don't know. This thread is part of a continuing research project where I compile research together, so you will see more coming, I can tell you that.
     
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    race politics is very sad.
     
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    A continuation....

    Below here is an article from the Biblioteca Pleyades website, in which they talk about the background of a Saharan tribe known as the Dogon. The article speaks of the Dogon believing to be of Egyptian descent, but here's something deeper. The article talks of their knowledge of Sirius (A and B), which also relates to the Egyptians' knowledge of Sirius as well. Could it be coincidence? Or could there be another linkage between Egypt and the Saharan West African peoples?

    Dogon Creational Myths
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mitos_creacion/esp_mitoscreacion_1.htm

    Sirius, the God * Dog Star
    http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/sirius/siriusgodstar.html
     
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    reclaiming a history that has been white-washed is sad?
     
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    how will dealing with this issue solve the problems of poverty, drugs, crime, single-parent homes, high school drop-outs, and other diseases of the African-American community?

    it won't. its a massive useless diversion.
     
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    Egyptian don't appear to be black in their artwork..
     
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    no, they look like Arabs.
     
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    Well, those issues, while connected to their stolen legacy, must be left alone in this thread. This here is just a thread in which historical review and discussion could be engaged in.
     
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    1345 BC, Egyptian Museum of Berlin
     
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    Well that I am sure is easy for you to tell me, and frankly, I don't have a bias either way, but first of all define what you mean by 'black'.
     
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    its insane to suggest that all Egyptians looked the same.

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    Frankly its insane to suggest that all 'black' Africans look alike.
     
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    [video=youtube;sSMqKOQspHc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSMqKOQspHc&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    if they aren't black, they aren't black Africans.
     
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    Proven Physical Remains: the Anu People


    Let us focus initially on the work of the French Egyptologist Emile Amélineau (1850-1915), who devoted himself to the first dynasties and who excavated, for the first time, the tombs of the pharaohs of the first (official) dynasty. In his excavations in the south of Egypt he discovered evidence of the existence of already advanced people earlier than the Pharaohs of the first dynasty. He discovered in particular the people of black race, the Anu (sometimes called "Aunu"). (Nothing to do with the Annunaki, although it sounds like a similar word.)

    They raised livestock and practised extensive agriculture all along the Nile and protected themselves inside the defensive walls of cities. They founded the towns of Esna (Anu Tseni), Erment (Anu Menti), Qush, Gebelein (Anti) and even Heliopolis (which was originally named "Anu"). These cities include in their written names the characteristic symbol designating the Anu people, the three columns. And according to many researchers (Chandler, etc), the greatest figures of ancient Egypt, such as Osiris, Isis, Hermes and Horus came from this ancient Anu race. May I remind you that according to the ancient texts, Osiris, for example, is known as "Son of Geb and Nut, born in Thebes in Upper Egypt", which gives him a reality in historical life; the texts even say that he taught the arts of agriculture and established the rule of law. (For my part, I do not totally agree with the thesis that these beings originated only among the Anu.)

    In any case the Anu knew the use of metals and ivory, they were very organized and knew how to write. This was proven by many artefacts found by Amélineau in the region of Abydos and described in his Nouvelles Fouilles d'Abydos. The archaeologist pointed out: "If Osiris was of Nubian origin, although born in Thebes, then it would be easy to understand why the fight between Osiris and Seth took place in Nubia." (Prolégomènes, pp.124-5). Let us not forget that according to certain researchers, Anu is a term applied to Osiris himself. Amélineau comments that it was "in an ethnic sense that we must read the term Anu applied to Osiris." He also quotes a passage from Chapter 15 of The Book of the Dead (of which the real title is The Book of Coming Out into the Light): "O Thou God Anu in the mountainous land of Antem! O Great God of the double solar mountain!" It was the name of Osiris in his role as fourth Pharaoh on Earth which the Greeks translated by Onnuphris, that is to say, "the Good".

    We have an extraordinary object from pre-dynastic Anu found by the great English Egyptologist William Flinders Petrie (1853-1942) in Abydos. It is a glazed and inscribed earthenware tile, unearthed from below the dynastic temple. The inscription bears the portrait of the Anu ruler, Tera-neter. There is even his address at the top: "Palace of the Anu at Ermant, Tera-neter."




    http://www.gigalresearch.com/uk/publications-pharaohs.php
     
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    Why ask if you already have your answer?
     
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    They do in the artwork ive seen. On another note, if we were to go by the american 'one drop' rule [which served a purpose then] then conversely 'american' law would be stating that the entire dynastic rule was 'black'.

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    Arabs are black in case you didnt notice. The white Arabs you are thinking of have been mixed with ottomans.
     
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    Thats a well known fake btw. Didnt you read the history behind the berlin fake?
     
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    no, most Arabs are indeed Caucasian.
     

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