The chilling resemblance between ISIS indoctrination and Eddie Eagle

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  1. barefoot2626

    barefoot2626 Well-Known Member

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    HAHAHAAHAHAHAH!

    Oh my.

    What about nuclear weapons?
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What an ignorant argument, laws prevent criminals from committing crime...whoda thunk :roll::roll::roll:
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    HAHAHAHAHAHA What an ignorant response.
     
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    Almost none of those 2 million would-be buyers were actually prevented from getting a gun. Locking the front door does nothing if the backdoor is open and the windows are unlocked.
     
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    SInce the DOE owns all of the fissionable material in the US, it would be hard to make a working nuclear device. With the proper tax stamp you could build a working model with the actual explosive trigger.
     
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    All of those two million were prevent from getting the gun they tried to buy.

    Why do you insist you can sell guns to strangers?
     
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    How come the Department of Justice has determined that UBCs aren't enforceable if all it takes is a cop enforcing the law? Exactly how does a cop stop a seller and buyer in a private location? What evidence is there that an illegal transaction took place?

    How about we just let private sellers and buyers access NICS directly without having to go through an FFL?
     
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    a) you don't know that.
    b) do you insist owning a firearm is a fundamental human right?
     
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    At that time. Nothing prevented them from a follow on straw purchase, street purchase or theft?

    That's not the issue. I can't even sell a gun to my brother in Colorado without a background check. I have to pay upwards of $40 for the privilege of selling my own property to my friends, or loaning a gun to a cop friend for more than 3 days, and do another background check when he gives it back to me. Give me Sen Tom Coburn's process and I'll have no problem screening strangers.
     
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    The backdoor is the 40 percent of gun sales going through private gun owners who lack the moral fortitude to do background checks.

    Have you lost track of what position you are arguing?

    I am the one that is trying to close the back door.

    It is shut over here.
     
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    Exactly the point. Lets close the loopholes (and yes they are loopholes) on background checks and lock the back door
     
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    Not just me. SCOTUS, in United States v Cruikshank.
     
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    They haven't.

    You are making things up.

    Again.

    You notice I use quotes?
     
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    Actually laws against murder do stop some people from committing murder. This should be painfully obvious
     
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    A right that comes with restrictions
     
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    Here is why. Because your brother might be a violent felon. You may not even know it. We are not willing to take your word on it
     
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    Nawww you are full of it!
     
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    40%? Now who is making up numbers? Better check that source. In Colorado, it's less than 5% of background checks that are for private sales. There are four types of private sales: good guy to good guy, good guy to bad guy, bad guy to good guy, bad guy to bad guy. It's only the good guy to bad guy sales that matter, and those could be handled by allowing direct access to NICS, rather than charging $40 per transaction.

    UBCs also tend to restrict non-sale transfers for no good reason, and without logic.

    Nope. They are unenforceable. If you find a gun in possession of someone, how do you prove that they did or did not acquire it through a private transfer sans background check?

    No idea where "over here" is, but if a bad guy wants to sell a gun to another bad guy, he isn't going to bother to make the crook get a background check first. UBCs do absolutely nothing to stop straw purchases, theft or illegal street sales, and FBI studies show that's where 90% of illegal guns come from.
     
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    HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!

    If you knew something about Cruikshank.then you would know it is listed in the top ten of worst decisions made by the Supreme Court.

    Go ahead.

    Look.

    While you are there, you might also notice that almost all of it has been overturned.
     
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    Straw purchases are MUCH less likely WITH REGISTRATION
     
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    HAHAHAHAHA NO IT'S NOT. Go ahead and look
     
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    Not that part that says "The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence."
     
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    So if you try to influence children then you are like ISIS? Isn't that literally the job of parents and teachers? Yup lets start those drone strikes on those elementary schools.
     
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    Gosh, Colorado has a universal background checks law.

    The rest of the USA , 40 percent? It is probably higher.
     

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