The Church Has Trouble Remembering What They've Preached

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  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    You know Finley99, I have to agree with you on that post of yours. The only thing that you failed to point out is the fact of the Apotheosis in Washington and the fact that the currency and coins does not declare which god that it references. Though the Apotheosis does give a big hint at which particular god or gods/goddesses that they refer to. http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Apotheosis+of+Washington As seen in the display of the Apotheosis, this country (United States... NOT 'United States of America') within all likelihood is not founded on Christianity.


     
  2. Finley99

    Finley99 New Member

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    George Washington got chewed out by a Methodist preacher for not attending church. Thomas Jefferson, Madison and Adams were definitely not taken in by mythological existence. The words Christ, Christian or church are not even found in the declaration of independence or the constitution. I believe you're right about that. All should read everything which is contained or included in our constitution:

    http://constitutionus.com/

    By the way.....all this talking about impeaching the president is nonsense. Treason, high crimes or misdemeanors are the reasons a president can be impeached and removed from office....being a niqqer doesn't count except in the warped minds of Republicans.
     
  3. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)"...?

    More white people voted this guy into office than for any other president.
    The Race Card is a simple way to avoid complaints about guy who about doing things directed at changing the fundamentals of America.

    Isn't he open to criticism?
     
  4. Finley99

    Finley99 New Member

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    LOL! More LGBT's, minorities, women, young people, the poor etc. elected this president than at any other time.

    It takes a set for anybody to talk about who elected who when the worst president I've seen in my life time got beat by Al Gore but with the assistance of the right wing supreme court, his brother and his brother's concubine got the office anyway. Al Gore got over half a million more of the popular vote than W. Bush. The first thing George Bush did was to use reconciliation to block Democrat opposition and cut tax rates for his rich buddies not once but twice...2001 and 2003. Uh Oh....there went that Clinton surplus!
     
  5. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The Gays and feminists ALWAYS vote Dumocrapitic, indeed.

    The Unions and College people join the Abortion groups because they all get the same handouts as the Welfare voters and Black community.

    That is the way Rome went, too.

    But White peopler made a tremendous block voting group for Obama the first time,higher than the usual numbers.
    That shows Race was not involved, except for Back people who will keep saying it is a big factor.
     
  6. Finley99

    Finley99 New Member

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    You are just as much of a hard headed Right Wing hack as Sean Hannity and Bill Oh Really?

    Almost as bad as Lush Rambo'

    It took Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower and John Kennedy to straighten out the mess left by Hoover and his rich man form of politics. Now we'll have to work on the mess left by Reagan and the Bushes. One of the very last things George W. Bush did was to hand nearly a trillion dollars to the most powerful financial institutions in the history of the world. 'Course he gave them two big tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 and evidently didn't feel like that was quite enough.
     
  7. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Actually the only people who elected Obama were the Dem voters in the Blue States. Everyone else could have stayed home since their votes didn't count.

    Clinton never had a surplus since the national debt was over $5.6 trillion in the year 2000. The Clinton "surplus" was supposed to have been about $230 billion. He may have had $230 billion cash on hand but it was a long way from a surplus. Don't hire Clinton as your bookkeeper.
     
  8. Finley99

    Finley99 New Member

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    You are so under informed:

    106th congress

    "In fy's 1998 and 1999, the debt held by the public was reduced by more than $140 billion. The government paid down an additional $223 billion in debt held by the public"

    By the end of fy 2001 the total surpluses used to buy back debt was almost $400 billion.

    Then along came George...cut taxes for his oil buddies twice, 2001 and 2003 and there went the surplus and he ended up doubling the total debt:

    ................................................................Total U S Debt..........................................................................

    09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

    09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

    09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
    09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
    09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
    09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

    09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

    09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

    09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

    09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

    09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

    09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
    09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
    09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
    09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
    09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
    09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
    09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
    09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
    09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
    09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
    09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
    09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
    09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
    09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
    09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
    09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

    09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

    09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
     
  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    When you pay your monthly household bills and debts do you still owe a balance even though you might have a few dollars on hand in cash? If you do then you don't have a surplus. You are in the hole. You don't have a real surplus until you are completely out of debt.

    I hope no one hires you to be their bookkeeper.
     
  10. Finley99

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    I hope I never trust your version of the truth. Why would anybody assume a budget which the year before had generated nearly $200 billion of surplus and had a plan in place to completely pay off the debt in 11 years, immediately cut taxes for the rich not once but twice then double the national debt? By the way....did you actually read the transcript of the 106th congressional record and see their declaration of using nearly $400 billion non social security surplus to buy back debt? I didn't think you did....you probably didn't read any of it......even the Republican version although even they alluded to the surplus during fy's 1998, 1999 and 2000.
     
  11. Finley99

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    You just don't bother to learn what really happened:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_budget_amendment

    Read the section entitled The Clinton Surplus.


    Beginning with the 1998 budget year, during his second term, the federal government ran a yearly budget surplus through FY 2001. During the Clinton administration, there was an official surplus of $419 billion during Fiscal years 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001. The final fiscal year of Clinton's two terms the debt outstanding increased $17.9 billion while about $200 billion of outstanding debt was erased(bought back). Sounds like a good deal to me.
     
  12. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Calculate the total amount of your debts and monthly bills. Count your cash on hand. If you can't pay off your debts you don't have a real surplus although you may have a few dollars left over after paying all of your monthly bills. If you lost your income you would soon get the point.
     
  13. mikezila

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    should faith be any other way?
     
  14. Tram Law

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    Yes.

    Pure and simple.
     
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    mikezila New Member

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    srsly, if you're not 100% convinced that you're right, it's not really faith, is it?
     

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