The Congressional Impeachment Inquiry has made impressive progress.

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  1. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

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    Fine with me. Once you come up with some proof give us a call. So far no one has proven anything.
     
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    We weren't discussing Trump's call transcripts. We already know that answer. The turds Obama left behind were prone to leaking. Produce the transcripts of the non-inquiry inquiry that prove the progress you boasted.
     
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    Now you just being funny.
     
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    Total BS....

    The House has not voted on an official Impeachment process which is the only way it can be in compliance with the 14th Amendment, "due process," clause.

    You can't obstruct something that has no probable cause attached to it. The entire unredacted transcript was released.

    Trump is the only one who has actually followed the laws and Constitution.

    Schiff is guilty of fraud and coercion by his own actions in front of the public.
     
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    We HAVE the smoking gun (the phone call). What's happening now is they are filling in the blanks.

    They have the texts that support what we saw in the phone call...they have the actions of Rudy the Ghoul and others being documented by witnesses who were in Ukraine.

    We now have Mulvaney admitting to the quid pro quo

    You'll see most of it laid out when they go for a full House vote
     
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    It has actually been proven. That Republicans are pretending the wrong wasn't wrong doesn't make it so.

    In fact the Republican denial of reality is what has led to Trump expanding his corruption further in to the Ukraine. Isn't the Ukraine where Manafort got into the corruption that got him a nice cozy jail cell to live out his days in.

    Over there on the conservative propaganda stream, have they been telling you how two of Trump's shady operatives were caught funneling Russian money into Trump's campaign.
     
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    Duh.... Grasping at your own foul wind again Natty?

    There is nothing illegal about keeping classified information secure in any capacity that is in compliance with government security protocols.

    In contrast, it is illegal to send classified information to an off site server under an assumed name like Obama did.
    And you can add about 38 State Department employees, and counting, that did the same.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    If these are the best excuses Trumpestas can come up with, Trump is toast.
     
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    Lol.... russian roulette.... you taking it right to the end huh?
     
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    Desperate diversion fails. Your brooding about a prior president who was twice elected with over 51% of the popular vote and completed his two terms with 60% approval is irrelevant.

    If you need to pretend that progress has not been made in exposing the Trump Ukraine scandal, especially via the testimony of State Department public servants, that is what you will do.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So in other words, you have nothing.

    Rudy had been asked by the State Department to coordinate his findings.

    Probable cause existed long before Biden announced that he was running.

    Shokin's sworn testimony was enough to actually require Trump to follow the Ukraine-US Treaty.

    Biden needs to be arrested, tried and sentenced for the Felony that he committed.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The inquiry is ongoing, the truth continuing to be revealed, and attempts to obstruct it continuing. Please be patient.
     
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    Legalities and illegalities are determined by out judicial system, not by partisan pretenses.

    Let's allow the National Security Council’s lawyer, John Eisenberg explain why Trump’s call transcripts — including the one documenting his conversation with Zelensky — were placed in a top secret codeword system meant to conceal the records from scrutiny.
     
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    Oh, oh , oh , i know , i know .... because butthurt whistleblowers have been unprecedently leaking his previous conversations with world leaders in an effort to undermine his presidency . Didnt you hear? Imagine , people are stooping that low to unseat our president . I think putin must be behind it , cant be an american trying to rid the american voter of the best POTUS of my lifetime.
     
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    If Trump is toast as you claim, why has there not been a House vote?

    Should be coming any moment then... Right ???
     
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    Why the rush? The inquiry is ongoing, truths are being exposed, and it's not as if we were betraying a stalwart ally where expediency was essential.
     
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    Fake news. We love our POTUS . How could any american believe he stinks . He is bending over backwards all fo we the people . What would hillary have done for we the people ... rake in billions for the clinton foundation ...their favorite charity is the clintons.
     
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    So, you don't have proof to back up your claim of progress? I didn't think you had proof.
     
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    Correct...

    Trump is doing a exceptional job in spite of the, all consuming, dirty political stunts of the Left.

    Under Obama, Putin got uranium, a free pass into Crimea, illegally obtained US manufactured pipeline equipment, an excuse to enter Syria, and was able to try to influence the US 2016 election with a phony dossier.
     
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    Those who bow at the alter of Progressive Globalism and who have already profited at the expense of the American people.
     
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    I understand your desperation to pre-empt the ongoing inquiry by pretending that it is complete, but it's not.

    It is still gathering information about how Trump's personal attorney, Giuliani, circumvented and arrogated the powers of the State Department on US-Ukraine policy, pushing out US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, and urging Zelensky to announce an investigation into the 2016 election and Burisma, the company that hired former Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter.

    Surely, a thorough exposure of the evidence is demanded.
     
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    You are correct. Mueller was asked to investigate even more benign and silly things: "links" and "coordination."
     
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    The Trump and Rudy Show. Effing brilliant.

    Tantrump? I like that ...

    :mrgreen:
     
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    As we see here daily.

    :drool:
     
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    See comment #6.

    :applause:
     

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