The Delusion of Atheism

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  1. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    A reality where Muslims cannot ally with Jews or Christians just because it says so in the Quran? Sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy to me.
     
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    Point is that all human actions and natural events have no reason whatsoever behind them.


    No, I think my views are generally correct... for the most part. Sure, not all atheists think that way I portray that they do, but many do, and this is based on discussions with them.
     
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    Not really. The struggle between all three religions mirrors that of the past. This is just the reality of things.
     
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    Typing the above was a human action thus the above has no reason whatsoever behind it?

    I am betting that most humans see their views as being generally correct... for the most part. What is your source of information on the topic of atheism?

    Thus anecdotal evidence based upon a statistically insufficient sample size. How you interpret what atheists say says more about you than them. In this thread your OP does not ask clarifying questions and instead makes baseless claims leading me to believe that you are here to lecture rather than learn.

    To me it is silly for a Muslim to define atheism just as it would be silly for a Buddhist to define Islam just as it would be silly for a Sikh to define Buddhism just as it would be silly to have an atheist define Sikhs just as it would be silly to have Hindus define Christianity et cetera ad nauseam.

    A Muslim speaking for atheists is illogical by my measure of logic as would be an atheist speaking for Islam.
     
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    I looked it up, and apparently it actually does have a purpose. It's not crucial to our survival, but it still has one. You learn something new every day.
     
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    Gee sounds like the left's religion of global warming/climate change, heaven forbid you disagree with their 'settled' science. If so, you must be in league with Lucifer (big business). LMAOAYS
     
  7. robini123

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    Which to many is a good argument against the Abrahamic religions that would rather remain at odds than to coexist peacefully. I mean how many centuries have the Jews, Muslims, and Christians been holding a grudge? From my perspective the religions are acting like insolent childeren that need to be sent to their rooms for a time out! And what is absolutely hilarious is they want to lecture atheists on how to act!
     
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    Humans aren't perfect, and they can't help submitting to their vain desires.

    If you think I am lecturing atheists how to act, you are mistaken. I'm simply offering a general description of things.
     
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    Perhaps according to the general atheist who doesn't believe in an absolute reason.



    Their own belief.


    Like I said, I base my observations on the very definition of atheism. The "anecdotal evidence" mere supports my understanding of things.
     
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    Between the two posts you quoted above, there were actually three distinct questions asked of you.1. 'Which sneaky god are we talking about here?' 2. 'So what are you going to do about it?' 3.'why do you even care what an atheist believes?'

    You managed not to answer any of the three. if I did not want to answer any those questions, I would not have drawn attention to them.
     
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    Jebus Kripes...you really have to convince yourself in the worst way...don't you. Here is the bottom line. God/s are all gobbledygook that humans created out of thin air.

    Humans are just predisposed to creating gods...

    https://godfinderarchive.wordpress.com/

    Wake up!!
     
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    I have, though indirectly.
     
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    they cannot answer them for you. Only you can answer which god you are referring to. Only you can tell us what you are going to do about this. Only you can tell us why you care.
     
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    It was a typo. I meant "I."
     
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    As a Christian you worship the same deity as the Muslims and Jews..'God the Father'. The Muslims had contact with their deity via Muhammad after the Jews and Christians. The Prophet said the Muslims were the only religion on the right track and the Jews, Christians and the rest were on the wrong track. So, their way must be right way and yours is the wrong way.

    I don't understand it? The monotheist deity you ALL worship is the same, the Muslims have the last word on the subject. So...why aren't you a Muslim?
     
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    Do you like any of the many threads where Christians and atheists describe Islam in a very negative light? If not then I see it as hypocritical to start a thread titled "The Delusion of Atheism". Honestly the only delusion I see here is in your patently false characterization of atheism.
     
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    Define absolute reason?

    I would say your errant interpretation of their own belief. If your interpretation were correct then atheists would not oppose what you have said in this thread... yet they do. Why? Because you misrepresent them.

    What is your definition of an atheist?
     
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    Funny how their all-powerful God can't defend himself.
     
  19. CKW

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    No, God isn't subtle. That is why most people believe in a god...its obvious we and this world is a creation and planned.. Its just that some people have blinders. Personally...I think the blinders start with a person's contempt for their creator. And it continues with a persons vanity...the feeling that they are the enlightened ones. And of course ego.
     
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    You make the same idiotic mistakes every time you try to address atheism. It would be nice if you tried to address atheism in an honest manner for once but you seem incapable of doing so.

    Taking god out of the picture does not mean nothing happens for a reason or that anything is rando,. This has been pointed out to you before but in fact you ignore it because you are incapable of addressing a simple challenge to your faith.

    Not all atheists believe as you say. Atheists are in fact very diverse in their beliefs. Many are liberal while many others are conservative. Many atheists embrace and learn about science and what it teaches us. Some other atheists ignore science and could not care less.

    This is why your claim that atheists see a random and cold universe is a false assertion. Some atheists may see it that way but not all or even most.

    Science does not teach that the universe is random. As it turns out the universe follows its own laws which are not random. In a nutshell science is a way of trying to understand these laws without simply saying it is some deity's will or design.

    Basically you look at the universe and foolishly try to make everything fit into a preconceived notion of why. Regardless of how much anything contradicts that preconception you try to make it fit. A scientist on the other hand or an atheist who understands science follows the evidence to where ever it leads.

    You in fact have it quite backwards. Scientists and many atheists are the ones putting aside their emotions when considering big questions such as how the universe began and why. It is strictly believers who emotionally attack any evidence that something other than the creator started it all. Nice try at trying to reverse that fact but you are wrong and a failure at trying to spin things.

    You need to be specific about what subtle or not so subtle " nudgings " exist and how you know they were caused by a god.

    Until then you are just spewing hot air
     
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    Actually...if you look at the religious forum....it seems to be the atheists that are enraged people believe in God.
     
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    It is not obvious at all.

    In fact there is no evidence of such a notion.

    Atheists simply start from the null position. As in why should i believe in such nonsense. Existence does not prove a specific cause
     
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    Well, that is what you believe. But you are blinded. A simple look at logic, history and past civiliations should be enough to correlate that belief in a higher power is imperitive to success, power, security, peace and wisdom. But you miss all that because of this huge emotion called contempt. When we have a thriving nation built on the foundations of atheism...you will have an argument. But really atheism is shown to exist in only as a parasitical ideology, a non-beneficial ideology and has shown no impact in the history of mankind.
     
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    Wrong they do not take it out because when it is not causing a problem because it would be needless surgery.

    We do know what purpose it serves and it is no longer needed. The appendix assists in digesting certain foods which we seldom eat an more. It id worthless to modern humans but one does not perform invasive surgery when there is no need.
     

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