The Doctrine and Covenants proves the entire New Testament is true

I read so many posts about how Paul and all his writings are false. Which is a great amount of the New Testament. The Doctrine and Covenants is a book that is cannon law to the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Utah Mormons). It is the restored Church from the great apostacy that began after Paul and John were no longer present in human mortality. Churches sprung up that had no authority to administer the gospel ordinances and had no messenger from God called a Prophet or Apostle. After about 1900 years in the Old World of Europe and about 1400 years in the New World of the Americas, God called a prophet, Joseph Smith to open up this last dispensation before the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord spoke to Joseph often and much of what he was taught was written down and eventually compiled into the Doctrine and Covenants. This book is the instruction book for the Doctrines of Christ for our Latter Days. This, along with the Bible, Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price has paved the way for the establishment of the Church and of Zion for our times.
What has occurred to me is that while the Church was restored in 1830, it wasn't complete for decades after that. In fact, 190 decades. The D&C shows that it takes time for the Church to be established and fully built because of many reasons. First, it has to be built line upon line, precept upon precept. That takes time. Since this is so, why would it have been any different in the meridian of time when Jesus first began to establish His Church at the age of 30? Heck, much of his teaching to the apostles came after his resurrection starting with when he appeared to the apostles in the room without windows and Thomas saw and felt his wounds. 40 days and they were taught and organized. But, the Churches had to then be built up in various parts of the world. Takes time. So, there is no reason to doubt Paul and his writings that we have in the Bible. None whatsoever no matter how long after the resurrection of Jesus Paul became an apostle...The Lord calls his apostles, not people on this forum or any other forum. Nor any other so-called scholar.

 

The truth is always pure. It is people who need time to catch up and come to the truth. Our nations birth is like that. From the Declaration of Independence and birth of our nation to the abolition of slavery took nearly a hundred years. How could Americans, with such a divine concept as God given rights and the equality of man under one God, acknowledge it's great worth and not see our wickedness by the practice of slavery under the light of that truth....for a hundred years no less. Some things take much time. But it does not reflect negatively on or disparage the truth or what is right. It is just owing to the nature of man and the grip of evil upon our hearts, minds and souls. What is important is repentance and the putting away of evil practices. And it is good that God bears our injustices all the while lending his general blessings towards a bountiful outcome. I am often astonished by and thankful for Gods mercy, charity and wisdom. Many look at the faults, real and perceived, so as to condemn the whole of it, and are blind to the harvest. To say that there is no God because they have found a fault with Paul is a contrived leap of faithlessness, not unlike dismissing the collective of science for discovering a fault in a shuttle. As if we should all begin again from fire and stones in an attempt to exhaust patience and stymie the gathering to the truth. It is fear.

 

Two points I would like you to opine on.

1. Lord, indicates a master or one who wishes to be served. Jesus said he came to serve and not be served.

2. Armageddon and Jesus' promised genocide seems to make Jesus look like a genocidal prick who kills when he could just as easily cure. Just like his deadbeat dad.

Why would you or anyone else sign on to such a satanic covenant?

Do you like the idea of a genocidal god and a misogynous and homophobic religion?

Regards
DL

 

Satan's spirit has great hold over your heart and mind. As proof I offer your cursings of a God you don't even know.

 

Satan's spirit has great hold over your heart and mind is a compliment if you mean the light-bringer. Thanks.

If you mean an evil entity, tell us why Yahweh put her in Eden to pester Eve.

Tell us as well, who is more likely to think genocide is justice? Who is more likely to kill than cure?

Satan or Yahweh?

Show who has your miserable immoral soul in hand.

Regards
DL

 

Yet you bring no light in your cursings. And Satan has no plan but the destruction of Gods plan and of mankind. So what has Satan moreso than nothing. Even mere mortal nations progress.

 

I would like you to opine on two points:

1. I choose to live in a world where we have a choice between good and evil. It's called liberty and freedom. Without these, we are nothing more than mindless robots at the will of the Godhead. If the Godhead won't let us make bad choices, then there is no free will nor liberty. There is just oppression like Hitler or Marxism. Note that people are escaping those kinds of countries with oppression to get to America where God still is held as our Creator and where we have unalienable rights. With that, we have to have laws for an orderly society to exist. But, one that has basic rights such as free speech and freedom to express our religious beliefs. We mesh the two together with common consent. Currently, girls are having their opportunities to compete in sports taken away through anarchy of transgender wokism.

2. You come from this idea that the world is here for us to live like the Elois, mindless and controlled by the brutal dictators of the Morlocks. Both basically humans. That there should be no choice of good and evil. All evil based on the Morlock's laws is not up for debate or change. The Elois must adhere to the laws of cannibalism with no choice in the matter. The same belief as Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Mao, Castro, Biden...

My understanding, which is the true understanding, is that we came from a more exalted sphere. We existed as spirit children of our Heavenly Father and Mother. We were unable to progress without the physical perfected bodies that come through the resurrection of the body and spirit. So, the Godhead provided all of us this earth to come and receive a physical body. Just one. We made covenants before coming and being guided by the Light of Christ, our conscience, we are to make good decisions. But, we have that God-given right to choose good or evil. For that, we need to choose leaders that will not be like the Morlocks-Bidens. We need good laws for a good social society that teaches good and evil and the blessings or punishments for our choices. Eventually, the spirit children will all come down to earth and it will be time to end the earth as it is today, Telestial glory and change it into a Celestial world. Those that made poor choices and did not repent that lacked a valiant testimony will be swept off this world but resurrected nonetheless. See, you see death as finite. I don't. God doesn't. Removing large numbers of his children for disobedience isn't final for God nor the people swept away.
From time to time, God has swept many away from lands and even one time all people from the earth except on family, Noah's. The evil became so finite that the Plan of Salvation had to start over. There was no choice at all. Same with Sodom and Gamorrah. Same with other times evil had to be taken way for a time. It's not finite and they are all his children. We are all his children. The Plan is in place and no matter how much of a temper tantrum you want to do, it won't change a thing upon the 2nd coming of Christ.

 

He believes death is finite and there is no resurrection of the body and spirit. So, the sweeping evil persons from the earth is a bad thing for him. Even if those evil people take over our liberty and freedoms. If he had a testimony of God's Plan of Salvation, then he would realize no one really dies.

 

We will chat when you are not such a moral coward and answer moral questions.

Like most Christians, you cannot justify the actions of the prick you call god.

The ancients sent the inquisitors to kill for the same reason.

Regards
DL

 

If your god's plan got derailed, as you indicate, then he is not omni everything the way he is portrayed.

I do not think Christians agree with your derail foolishness, because they sing of Adam's sin being a happy fault and necessary to god's plan.

I also find it quite satanic of Christians to be eager to have Jesus return with Armageddon and yet another genocide of man.

If you prick of a god can only convert by genocide, it shows that he does not have the moral tenets to convert with.

What is it with Christians like you who think genocide and inquisitions are good justice?

Do you pray to St. Hitler?

Who is more likely to use genocide as justice, Yahweh or Satan.

Regards
DL

 

I also am not stupid enough to believe in talking serpents and donkeys.

********* about evil, yet ignore than the prick you adore has given Satan dominion over us with even extra powers to deceive the whole world.

Most of the world is Christian and Muslim and you fools think the rest of us who will not believe in the fiction of the supernatural are deceived, when your own bible says you are.

Try your bitching on explaining why Satan was given dominion over you.

Regards
DL

 

Above is where you begin down the dark path. You don't know any of what you claim for sure.

We all have a story - and some of that story might be correct - but, claiming one's story is "The Truth" is self deception.

 

Can truth be expected from those who cannot show the supernatural that they lie about?

Regards
DL

 

No - it can not. Anyone who thinks they know God's word defacto - via some spirit they think they are encountering - is engaging in self deception. Either God sat down with you for tea - or he didn't.

Most of these folks who think they know God's word directly - also have a stong belief in our friend Sataniel.

Now what kind of a simpleton does one have to be to think Sataniel - aka - greatest deceiver the world has ever known - is going to show up with horns and a red cape ? Clearly that would defeat the purpose of deception.

So the spirits come visit - how can you tell whether it is our enemy YHWH - or our fiend Sataniel. ? or vice versa

 

How can you hate, curse, and loathe a God you don't believe exists unless you are deluded by a fantasy or a false construct. I am in a unique position to know that God is real, that he lives and that he is good. So I marvel at your certainty to the contrary, as well as at your animus that drives you to cursings, vulgarity, and less than dignified behavior. Has it ever occurred to you that you could be completely and utterly wrong?

 

I've had the true privilege to be studying with Latter day Saint Elders and Sisters since 2018 or 2019 and I truly am impressed......

Never once did the LDS Elders or Sisters give me the impression that my being baptized by LDS Elders would be a salvation issue..... they made it clear that if were to get baptized again, in their opinion, it would not be so much an issue of salvation but... would be an opportunity for me to go on to a greater level of glory........

... in my opinion this is an extremely wise approach for the LDS Elders and Sisters to take with somebody who has already accepted Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as my personal Savior and my perfect Passover Lamb......

Something that amazed me was the way in which LDS Elders and Sisters pray at the beginning of and at the end of each one hour mentoring session online........

During 2018 and 2019 I did manage to have some face to face meeting with LDS Elders and Sisters but since 2020 it has mostly been online, (but I did make it out to the local ward in New Glasgow, N. S., several times)......

It is really something to hear young people 18 to twenty six praying for the guidance of the Holy Spirit during each session..... I know that the prayers for me that have been offered up on my behalf by LDS Elders and Sisters and members of the Ward in New Glasgow, N. S., are a big part of the reason why I now feel more fire.... and I feel that my lukewarm attitude of several years ago is being overcame......

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/rev/3?lang=eng

 

Amnesia. If it is God you will recognize and remember him as if from a former time. You will not conclude who he is, or ask or wonder who he is. You will only know him as your eternal Father of whom there is none like. His spirit will fill your heart with warm charity, and light to your mind like the sun pushes away the dark. All your angst and troubles are shown in proper approach, and your ways made straight. And when you part, you will think how can I have lived and not known this. How is Gods kingdom hidden in plain sight. I know my God lives. Unfortunately, all your former challenges remain. And the real work begins. But now you have a sanctuary and knowledge that it is not in vain.

 

Actually, I do know my claim is true for a surety. All of my claim is correct. And, there is but one truth. There cannot be more than one truth.

 

You will find that members sometimes use the words Salvation and Exaltation interchangeably. After all, Exaltation cannot occur unless there is Salvation first. And, "Baptism" is required for Exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom. However, not so for Salvation in the Terrestrial or Telestial Kingdom. So, your past baptisms have prepared you for Terrestrial and Telestial Glory kingdoms. But, for Celestial Glory, you will have to be baptized with one who has the authority and power to do so. The Elders who are teaching you have that authority as does those holding the Aaronic Priesthood and hold the office of a Priest. After that, a Melchizedek Priesthood holder in the office of an Elder must confirm you a member of the Church and give unto you the "Gift" of the Holy Ghost. All other attempts before did not have that authority to do so. Once this is done, you will fully understand. Right now Brother Tate, you are receiving the influence of the Holy Ghost and it's burning in your bosom. Fear not separating from old teaching and traditions, for the Lord is now on your side. I too went through this to move forward from the teaching of my Jewish teacher and traditions. Not for me, but for all those whom I have had the ability to teach and assist in conversion. That is why I feel a baptism is in the near future

 

Having met God once in an NDE - German Measles near took me when I was a young teen .. fever so high the skin was peeling off my John Thomas like a snake sheding its skin .. "Fa Real" I concur with the above .. not so much for the rest of your story.

Not really - kind of a little but this is story telling - guessing - was more just a presence - didn't have a persona that you could lable man or woman - sheep or goat - was just there - but you could not see it -- no bright light .. no flying saucer .. was just there.

Now the dude -and it was a dude "Angel dude if you will" - escorting me around the surreal place I was taken to - .. that was a personage

So we go before "The Entity" - what you would call God - and nothing much happens - just one question - "Do you want to stay - or do you want to go" similar to the lyrics of the Punk Rock "The Clash" tune "Should I stay or Should I go"

Happened to me kind of young so I have kind of always known - changes the way you live life in some respects - certainly the way you think about things.. not that I have any knowledge about "God" more than the next person - because I don't - "I am that I am" the rest is all made up story .. and perhaps even that quote - even though that one happened to be right from my experience ..

and this is the point I am trying to make .. you don't know either.

There is one thing "I Think I know" - and that is that there is a God. That's it .. but this is no small thing - a rather big deal IMO.

You however want to claim "God is here" "God is there" - put God in this some box - like the description of the Character YHWH in the OT .. others prefer the Jesus box .. some combine the two .. none recognize the real "Most High" by name .. God of Abraham and Melchizedek - The "Most High" to the Ancient Israelites - even while worshiping his son YHWH.

What - you were not taught that tale .. ahh right .. need to go to older bibles to find the good stuff but I digress.

Don't speak for God - While I am not 100% sure that this is the unforgivable sin mentioned by HeyZeus - my latinized pronounciation of Brother J .. nothing else I can come up with fits the bill. Don't say "God is like this" God is like that" You have no clue what God is like - and nor do I - and you better hope the Most High is not like that YHWH fellow.

I didn't sense anything nefarious but .. so what - didn't sense anything at all really that I could use to describe this Entity - perhaps that wasn't God at all .. perhaps was just a gate-keeper

 

I address this for the most part in Post 21 to Injeun. Read that and then tell me what "The Truth" is.

Old Viking Credo "The Truth" - is that life is hard and dangerous

 

The truth and fullness of the Gospel that is available in these the latter days. There is only one truth...

 

They are.

Your god-thing isn't even smart enough to remember whether "his only begotten son" (snicker) was crucified on a Thursday or a Friday, because you're gospel writers who wouldn't know truth if they were swimming in it can't figure it out either.

So, does your god-thing have Alzheimer's? Is that why your god-thing can't remember whether "his only begotten son" (snicker) was crucified on a Thursday or a Friday?

Or does your god-thing have vascular dementia?

 

What a load of avoidance - with flowers in hair - dancing around singing mantra's to self - but saying nothing.

"The Truth" is "The Truth" and there is only one - Got it.

Any idea what that one Truth is by chance ? since it is so readily aviailable in these latter days - Enquiring minds want to know