The Espionage Paraphernalia In Oswald's Sea Bag

Author Anthony Summers in his book Conspiracy details the items found in Oswald's sea bag (left in Ruth Paine's garage) by the Dallas police immediately after the assassination. Among the items were a Minox camera, which is traditionally referred to as the "spy's camera."

Dallas police detective Gus Rose says he found the Minox camera in Oswald’s old Marine sea bag. It was listed with other confiscated possessions in Dallas police headquarters and kept there until the FBI took over the inquiry and carried off all evidence, including the camera, to Washington. Two months later the FBI contacted the Dallas police and tried unsuccessfully to have the manifest of Oswald’s possessions changed. They now claimed that the equipment found had not been a camera at all, but a Minox light meter. The police declined to change the manifest, and today Detective Rose remains adamant that it was indeed a Minox camera he found. He is emphatically supported by Assistant District Attorney Bill Alexander, who saw the Minox camera just after its seizure. He scoffs at FBI attempts to say the camera never existed, recalling that he personally worked the mechanism on Oswald’s Minox. As a professional investigator, Alexander is familiar with the workings of the Minox camera and
owns one to this day. He regards the FBI behavior over the camera as further indication that before the assassination, Oswald had some connection with a government agency. Warren deBrueys, the FBI agent who took Oswald’s possessions to Washington and monitored his activities during part of 1963, today says he “cannot remember” the Minox camera. Now retired from the Bureau, deBrueys adds, however, that there are “limitations as to what I can say. ... I have signed the secrecy agreement before leaving the Bureau.” In the recent proceedings of Congress’ Assassinations Committee, a staff lawyer made it clear that the item seized was indeed a Minox camera. Along with the camera, police confiscated a whole array of other equipment after the assassination, including rolls of exposed film. The majority show scenes shot in Europe, and five show military scenes apparently photographed in Asia or Latin America. Apart from the Minox material, the police also seized three other cameras, a 15-power telescope, two pairs of field glasses, a compass, and even a pedometer. None of those who knew Oswald in the two years before the assassination have remembered him as a cross-country hiking enthusiast. The total cost of all this equipment must have been hundreds of dollars. ----excerpted from Conspiracy by Anthony Summers

Oswald’s address book, also confiscated after the assassination, contained the words “micro dots,” written alongside the entry for the firm of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall. The microdot technique is used to store and transmit intelligence information. By a system of photographic reduction a mass of written material can be transferred to a tiny spot like a punctuation mark and then concealed in an apparently innocent document, such as a letter. It is a technique that has little use outside espionage. Taken together, Oswald's activities, possessions, and associations all jar with his public image of a hard-up workingman. There is no avoiding the strong suspicion that he was, in reality, something else entirely.

 

OSwald loved to read Ian Fleming novels and play act as a spy.

The items he owned were commonly available to the public.

More non evidence of anything

 

Then why was the FBI so concerned with having the manifest altered, Sherlock Nazi????

 

There is no evidence that they were so concerned.

Quotes from conspiracy theorists prove nothing

 

Oswald was CIA connected and the discovery of all this spycraft isn't surprising at all. The "ne'er do well loser" who supposedly hated the president and wanted fame as his killer (though when he got his chance in the spotlight denied he was the killer) was a well crafted persona
cooked up by Oswald and his handlers.

He spent part of his day handing out pro communist newspapers on street corners and the other half meeting with known intelligence
figures in New Orleans. It's a joke.

 

He was not CIA connected or you could provide evidence which you never have done.

He was a proven ne'er do well loser and no one claimed he hated Kennedy. He had no HANDLERS and the facts prove you are wrong.

HE spent no time meeting intelligence agents as you claim.

Total lie and fiction and proven so

 

They were not

 

I would ask you for a link to that but we both know you will not provide any such citation for your statements. As for the "commonly available" nature of the camera, I found this:



Poor Lee Oswald, the man who couldn't afford a car, housing, etc... did have a $140.00 camera. In today's dollars that camera is over $1,100.00.
http://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=100&year=1963

It's one thing to have a $0.35 novel. Another thing to have a severely expensive camera.

 

Finally! A post from you where you start using your head and making pertinent points instead of foul, childish insults.

Where did Oswald get such a camera and for what purpose? And where does this "pro communist loser and loner" get friends
like CIA connected White Russian aristocrat and oil man George de Mohrenschildt? There seems to be much more to this man Oswald
than the Warren Commission lets on. Much more.

I believe you see him as part of the conspiracy to kill Kennedy (a willing complicit part) whereas I see him as a mostly unwitting
victim of the killers (as much as Kennedy was or any of the dozens of witnesses or players in the plot who died in unnatural and violent
ways).

If one rationally looks at all the ways in which the Warren Commission lied about Kennedy's death then one would also have to rationally
question their portrayal of Oswald and other unsubstantiated claims about him. If one changes their view of things, as I did after years
of believing the Warren Commission's story about Oswald (but not believing he was the only shooter), then one has to necessarily
begin to question the entire Warren narrative, which I do.

When the Warren Commission claims Oswald is up on the sixth floor of the Texas Schoolbook Depository, cheap mail order rifle
blazing away, and he's a virulent pro communist who wants to shoot the president and be famous....and there is virtually nothing
about any of that that can be proved or verified, upon closer inspection.

 

Wow, guess I’m not “cut off” any more.

I liked it better when you were threatening to hold your breath unless we take you seriously.

PS: We don’t.

 

My mistake. I thought you could act like a rational adult.
P.S. You can't.

 

Coming from the guy who actually thinks there was two oswalds….LOL

 

Unless he stole it.

or bought it at a pawn shop or thrift store or found it.

The poinht is it proves nothing and is not even suspicious. Unless you wish it were

 

There was just one and the use of doubles (like the guy in Mexico City trying to get into the Soviet embassy
as "Lee Harvey Oswald" ) was a well known technique used by the CIA.
http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/the-two-oswalds/
I've stopped presenting evidence for fools however who are terrified they might discover something.

 

Not known to be a technique used by the CIA as it serves no purpose.

The other guy at the Mexico city embassy was nothing more than an error. In the immediate after math of the shooting of JFK the CIA station in mexico city was asked to provide any photos of Oswald at the Cuban embassy which they had under intermittent surveillance.

However the agents at that station had no idea at the time what Oswald looked like so they simply took their best guess about which photograph pay have been Oswald based on the day and time he was believed to have visited the Cuban embassy. They simply sent the wrong photograph to their superiors in Langley and nothing more.

The idea that second or double Oswalds were deliberately placed by the CIA to fool people is idiotic as no one can even explain a logical purpose that such an operation would serve to assist in the assassination. It would be a great deal of effort which would accomplish .........NOTHING.

Especially since the same people claiming this stupid idea swear that Oswald worked for intelligence and maybe even the CIA ( without a speck of evidence and ignoring much evidence proving he was not ). IF he were it would have made more sense to simply order him to go out in public and be noticed. A double would simply create confusion.

The whole thing is fictitious

 

What use for an expensive "spy" camera would Lee Harvey Oswald have? The Warren Commission Oswald would have none.

But the CIA connected Oswald, who had already been and out of the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War with no
prohibitions or repercussions at all, might have good use to make of such a covert tool.

He didn't have such an expensive item for the fun of it.

 

Why does anyone need to have a use to own anything?
None people own things they have no " use " for so ownership of a commercial camera is not evidence of anything and a commercially sold camera is not a spy camera.

Oswald was not connected to the CIA.

Perhaps you could name such uses that he had only if he were in the CIA as opposed to just anyone who wanted a camera

 

No one can explain the camera.

 

That is because many people even post people own cameras.

It needs no explanation.

What does need an explanation is the conflict in the OP. Apparently the FBI and Dallas police disagree on the very existence and identification of this camera. This makes it just another anomaly with no bearing.

 

Of course you lied when you said I was on ignore. So why should anyone believe a word you say?

See how that works. I quoted you as saying I was “cut off” and demonstrated your inaccuracy by quoting you. You guys should try that with the reports you swear are full of lies.

As for Oswald with a body double…it’s so silly, it need not be commented upon.

 

Now he’s stealing it and buying spyware from a pawn shop…or finding $1,000 dollar photography equipment. This guy has lead the most remarkable life ever. I mean really….

First he defects from the US to the USSR.
The he defects back from the USSR to the US with his Russian wife in tow.
With the total blessing of the State Department.
Is able to outwit the government who was tailing him into Mexico (without using a body double by the way), found a thousand dollar camera somewhere along the way, happened to be working at a place where the President just happened to be driving by at 10mph….

I’m surprised he didn’t win the Publisher’s Clearning House and someone didn’t show up with a big check for him while he was at the jailhouse.

 

Do you deny there are many ways he could have acquired it?

He never defected from the US no one does.
There is no mystery why he was allowed to return to the US with his wife.
They never tried to tail him to Mexico so there was nothing to outwit. thousands go to mexico for reasons of their own all the time. Yes he just happened to be working at a building where the motorcade drove by because they needed to take that road.

No mystery

 

It's shocking how mis-informed you are. This is from PBS's multiple award winning (65 Emmy Awards alone) series, Frontline.

What the Documents Show
Shortly after Oswald’s Sept. 27 visit to the Cuban consulate to try to get a visa, the CIA station in Mexico informed headquarters about it2 and requested information on him. But headquarters lied to its station, saying that no information on Oswald had been received by headquarters since his return to the United States 18 months earlier.3 Documents show, however, that most of the half-dozen agency employees who participated in the drafting and dissemination of this false story had signed for and read various FBI reports received on Oswald during those months, especially during the two weeks before this deception was invented.4

It continues.

Conclusion
The staff of the Mexico CIA station and others at headquarters such as Richard Helms and George Kalaris (in their various memoranda and testimonies during the years after the assassination) would have little reason to contradict the record unless the record is untrue. Lies, as Hoover observed in that scolding note regarding the CIA to his subordinates, were told in the days after the assassination. As much as to protect sources and methods, these lies appear to have been invented to buttress the lone-assassin story — itself ostensibly created for the purpose of preventing war and saving millions of lives. Whether or not this also permitted conspirators to avoid the scrutiny of investigation — a possibility I take seriously — is something we will continue to debate.

While many of the pieces of this story became evident from the early 1993 and 1994 releases of documents to the Assassination Records Review Board, the daunting contours of the Mexico City story and the ensuing national security cover-up were not apparent until the late 1990s when the work of the Assassination Records Review Board was completed and earlier documents, which had been heavily redacted, were released in full.

 

You;re being dishonest.

This is nothing more than evidence of agency infighting and in no way shape or form contradicts anything I said.

Once again he did not defect you cannot defect from a free country it only works the other way.
The soviets have also released documents showing why they allowed him to return with his wife and it is not a mystery. Same for the State Department.
He was not tailed to mexico by anyone in government and travel to mexico is common so their was nothing to outwit. Once he returned from the USSR they had very little interest in him and no reason to have interest in him.
Yes he just happened to be working there before any motorcade was planned.

Nothing contradicts those facts.

 

Well Frontline with 65 Emmys for journalism staunchly disagrees with you. So we can either believe the credentialed news bureau or some guy running around calling himself Soupnazi.
I think you've lost this one (not that there ever was a doubt).