The EU wants a superstate, just as Hitler did

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  1. Silver Surfer

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    The bloodline has been diluted so it doesn't count. :wink:
     
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    A very poor reply jeanette. I expected more.
    Indeed, but I would add that the EU easily could become a major military power as well, as powerful as the US. The EU has as much money and as good technology as the US. If we wanted to, we could easily match their military. But we don't really want to, and we don't really need to either. Russia's actions have made us increase spending somewhat, but certainly not to anywhere near US-levels. Because, Russia will never invade the EU anyways unless they are suicidal, we have nukes after all, and NATO. And we don't really care much about having a strong global presence... The US pretty much does that for us already. But, if Trump would become president and cut back on american involvement, my prediction would be that the EU would grow their military much. If the EU survives that is.
    That's not the point. The point is that Mrfirst thinks that Russia accidentally invaded Poland three times in two decades. Ridiculous, don't you agree?
    It has some to do with Putin. Many problems are not caused by Russia, but Russia certainly tries to make them worse. From funding anti-eu parties to spreading propaganda.. A weakened EU is good news for Russia, so of course they try to make things worse.

    Since you're the kind of person who thinks the falklands belong to argentina (that is, an anti-patriot), I wouldn't expect you to agree.
     
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    Boris, may be a bit of a typical Politician that can easily be hated...

    The EU is a dangourous dream that Nepolean & Hitler, like many other European facists have long held. I want no part of that dream & will always disobey their Feberal Europe dream & vote & fight aginast their evil desires.
     
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    I’ve never supported Tories but Thatcher’s speech was a great speech. I couldn’t have had agreed more back then and I couldn’t agree more today. Europe shouldn’t be run by bureaucrats who keep issuing diktats. Concentrating power in one centre is bound to fail. Like the Soviet Union failed.

    Margaret Thatcher's 1988 "Bruges Speech" Explains Why Brits Should Brexit
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ruges-speech-explains-why-brits-should-brexit

     
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    The Blessed Margaret. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    But it's true that she did go dotty at the end. But a true patriot against Pumped-up Dave's traitorousness.
     
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    The Russians under Lenin along with Soviet Ukraine invaded Poland in 1920 they did it again under Stalin with their Nazi allies beginning a brutal 50 year occupation. Why do you support imperialistic wars of aggression and conquest?
     
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    While supporting Russia's aggressive wars of conquest in the East isn't that right?
     
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    And today the Russian Federation is home to more than half the worlds Neo Nazi population. Do you have a source that 50 percent of Europeans supported the Third Reich?
     
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    You're spouting nonsense not even half of the Germans voted for the Nazis.
     
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    There are undoubtedly people in Europe who would like to see the members of the European Union united into a United States of Europe. That doesn't make these people totalitarian. Dragging in Hitler's name was unwarranted. Does American-born and former US citizen Boris Johnson also think that the union of 13 former British colonies in North America into the United States was a totalitarian act?
     
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    I also disagree with the attempt to turn Europe into one entity. Been saying for a long time that they're out to turn it into the United States of Europe. I don't see the need for that, though. Seems to me they're fine with looser form of cooperation than what the EU imposes at present.

    Of course, comparing the EU to Hitler is just comical. But hey, everyone compares someone or something they don't like to Hitler now, right? It's practically standard operating procedure.
     
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    Because I come from an imperialist and conquering nation myself. So that's not a deal breaker for me.

    But mainly, because when the (*)(*)(*)(*) really hit the fan, they were the best allies my country has ever had.
    They do what I do, and those who live in the middle of us had better behave lest our hammer meet their anvil.
     
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    You should learn history a bit. There was no any Russia's invasion, the same as there was no any "Poland" then. There was Duchy of Warsaw that belonged to France. Russia recieved part of Duchy of Warsaw through diplomatic agreement of Congress of Vienna in 1815.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_of_Vienna

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    So deep thought, I can't dive so deep, sorry.
     
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    Poland invaded Russia many times too. It was actually pretty common for neighbouring countries in medieval times. It has nothing to do with the attempts to unite Europe - what exactly Napoleon and Hitler tried to do. Russia together with other European countries participated at wars, at diplomacy and so on, Russia lost and gained new lands - as other empires - but uniting Europe is definitely not Russian idea.

    As someone mentioned here the only weak attempt took place in 1920 - short time Soviet-Polish war. Communists, who came to power in Russia, dreamt about world revolution, that was official political doctrine of then governmen, they won the civil war and sent troops to Warsaw. That was a prompt raid - which completely failed - rather than invasion. The newly revived Poland easily beat off the attack with its antique cavalry (which appeared helpless against Germans twenty years later).
     
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    Nazi Germany had cavalry units too.

    Nazi Germany wouldn't have been so powerful had it not been for all the raw resources they got from Soviets to fuel their war effort, in the German - Soviet Credit Agreement / German - Soviet Commercial Agreement.
     
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    Rather than Soviet pilots it was actually Polish pilots who made up the best squadron in the Battle of Britain the 303 Kosciusko Squadron.
     
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    Looking forward to it and thanks for your support in this endeavour.

    I don't know if we will leave, but I have long thought that it would be either us or you that left first.

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    Props to them. They are not forgotten here.
     
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  19. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    it's not medieval times. It's just before napoleon, in the late 18th century. during the time ca 1770-90 russia attacks poland three times and annexes territory. my point is that this is not "accidental" as you claim it was.
     
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    Well, metaphysical bull(*)(*)(*)(*) blessing to him! Did he win? :blankstare:
     

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