The Falklands War plus 30

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  1. Sab

    Sab Active Member

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    Its not an amicable solution. THEY DON:T WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT. Why should they have to do what you want? Its their choice and they have made their choice. Argentina has NO say in the matter .
     
  2. william walker

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    Many of the Falklands island wouldn't mind being independent, but that question wasn't covered in the referendum. Of course they currently don't have the means to be a independent nation without UK backing and military power.
     
  3. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    Good post, you saved me from having to point this all out. It astounds me how ignorant some people are of economics, finance, and government expenditures.
     
  4. Mushroom

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    Well, most people are really sheeple. Everything is given to them by "the government" (or they want it to be provided), and they never really think of where it comes from, who pays for it, and who actually does it all. Having been a "Government Employee" for 15 years, I have seen how much support it takes to keep a single "working person" in business. For the military for example, that takes 1 civilian for ever 2 people in uniform. And around 25 support personnel for every Infantryman in the field.

    And no, that is nothing "wasteful" or "Government inefficient" about that. Think of how many actual "engineers" work at Boeing designing airplanes, and how many work to support them in everything from finance and legal to benefits, custodial and a thousand other things. Or how many employees a major sports team has for every athlete who actually takes the field-court.

    Most people do not think of all the things and expenses that go to making a large organization running, be it a Corporation or a Government. I guess they think the "Money Fairy" just pays for it all by waving a magic wand. Unless it is some program that they think is "wasteful", in which those behind it should be drawn and quartered, shot, then boiled alive.
     
  5. funinsnow

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    Then let's work it out so that the Falkland Islands can be an independent democratic nation without meddling by Argentina, U.K. or any other nation. Costa Rica has done well without a military since 1949. Let's work again to make Falkland Islands an independent nation. If the :flagus: wants to defend Falkland Islands or las Islas Malvinas, then so be it. Making Falkland Islands independent would end the dispute between Argentina & the U.K. Let's see how that can be done by having economists, businesses & so on doing the strategy.
     
  6. Sab

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    What the (*)(*)(*)(*) has it got to do with you. the islanders can be independent any time they wish and had the option at the referndum to rehject UK rule and move towards Independence
    Why do you need a lack of a military for independence? If an Independant falklands didn;t have a Military the Agentina would invavde again

    The people of those islands call the 'The falklands' so why do you keep saying 'Malvinas'. If they are independent they won;t the 'Malvinas' either

    Argentina would still claim them

    Who is 'us'.

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    please provide evidence of this. Evidence does not mean personal testimony of 'people you know'
     
  7. Sixteen String Jack

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    What a silly thing to say.

    If the Falklanders don't want to be British anymore, why didn't they just vote AGAINST it in the rerefendum?

    The question in the referendum was:

    Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom? YES or NO

    So if most of the islanders don't wish to be British, why did 99.8% of them answer YES to the question? Were they forced at gunpoint to answer in favour of remaining British?
     
  8. Sixteen String Jack

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    The only thing done by the UK is the islands' defence and foreign affairs. The islands have their own, separate health care system. They do not use Britain's NHS. What the Falklands health service can teach the NHS http://www.guardian.co.uk/healthcare-network/2011/oct/19/falklands-health-service-teach-nhs

    And can you give me an example of these Falkland Islands civic projects which are done by thje UK?

    Do you not read what I write?

    I've pointed out already that the islandas are almost entirely self-sufficient, apart from defence and foreign affairs. They export MORE than they import.

    The islands already have their own defence force, so that will not be a new thing for them in the highly unlikely event they become independent anytime soon.

    They pay for everything already on the islands, apart from the British military presence on the islands.

    And even if independence WOULD bakrupt the islands - which it wouldn't - why do the islanders need to worry about that? They aren't going to become independent, so why are you even mentioning it as though it's about to happen?

    Yes, they do. And I've even shown you the fuigures to prove it.

    I'll show you some more if you like:

    the approximate annual value of exports is £120,000, and of imports a little more than half that sum. http://www.theodora.com/encyclopedia/f/falkland_islands.html
     
  9. Sixteen String Jack

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    Here's a good sense of perspective.

    Tourism makes up 8% of the GDP of the Falklands, but it makes up just 2.6% of the GDP of the US. As a percentage of GDP, the tourism industry in the Falklands is just over three times BIGGER than the tourism industry in the US.

    The US makes around $1.4 trillion in tourism annually. So if the Falkland Islands' economy was the same size as the US the Falklands would make a whopping $4.5 trillion annually on tourism every year.
     
  10. SFJEFF

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    Just to be Devil's advocate here- that just means that their economy is more dependent on foreign tourists- not that it is a thriving industry. As a rather isolated island without an abundence of attractions, that industry would be much more susceptable to the things that disrupt tourism- such as rising fuel costs or international terrorism than for example- San Francisco.
     
  11. Sixteen String Jack

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    The US economy is more dependent on certain things than the Falklands economy is - financial services, for instance.

    It works both ways.
     

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