The Folly of Atheism, part 2

Your posts prove otherwise!

 

Pointing out the absurdities of your posts is not making assumptions.

 

Well lets take a looksee....

2+2=3+1
2+2=1+3
2+2=2+2
2+2=4
2+2=5-1
2+2=6-2.....and on and on

Which one is the answer in your opinion?

 

Ah, here's another one who can walk out into his back yard, gaze up into the densely-packed night sky, and say to himself, "Yup, I'm sure of it -- nothing, and no one created any of this!"



... and all the rest of it is simply in someone's imagination... right?

 

Apparently he believes in magic because things pop in and out of existence all the time in his imaginary world.

 

Thank you for admitting to your absurdities.

 

That you have FAITH in the stone age concept that the universe required an imaginary "creator" is not my problem.

The universe exists because it has always existed and will always exist in one form or another.

There is zero evidence for your imaginary stone age "creator" but feel free to provide some if you can.

 

Projecting your own shortcomings again?

 

Oh, well said!

His post reflected an 'absurdity' almost as astounding as that which would be expressed by someone who looks up at a jam-packed night sky, which extends farther out in all directions than anyone can observe, and pronounce that 'nothing, and no one created any of this....'

 

Thank you for admitting that you cannot provide a single iota of evidence to support your bogus allegation about your stone age "creator".

 

Oh. It's just "always existed". What... on its own, all by itself. It just magically popped into 'being'...?

You may also be interested in the following concept of the universe. It was quite popular long ago (maybe not quite "the stone age", but among those with your willingness simply to believe that it's "always existed", it may still have quite a lot of appeal....

. Not to worry! The turtle's always "just existed"....

 

The Laws of Physics stipulate that matter can neither be created nor destroyed.

In order for your imaginary "creator" to have made the universe would result in a logical paradox that negates your imaginary "creator".

My position is based upon scientific knowledge, logic and observation.

Your position is based upon a stone age belief that originated from ignorance.

 

I have made no "allegation" about any "stone age creator". I have merely pointed out, with so little effort required, that anyone who can try to explain the whole damned universe as something that has just "always existed" -- with nothing whatever to support that statement, is very simple-minded, indeed!

Thus: there may have been a "creator" of some kind (anthropomorphic or otherwise), or, there may not have been. This approach provides "wiggle-room" that prevents those who are truly agnostic from being regarded as insensate morons.

But to be a true atheist is to forbid even the possibility that some thing or some entity or some creative 'force' of some kind. I can't imagine any approach that would be more "stone age" than that!

Incidentally, there have been numerous times when 'the best minds' in science have blown it completely, only to have their 'axioms' thrown out in the trash and replaced with others, which may, or may not stand 'the test of time'....

. So, to you, it's THIS, or nothing...? How very scientific!

 

Excellent, you can look at that and know that it is created, can you show which bits have not been created, and how you tell between the two?

 

Argument of ignorance asserted without evidence.

You jumped on the regression of ignorance.

Application rejected.

 

Well actually since you made the statement you are required to provide the proof.

 

Ooh... very 'Haiku'. I might even be impressed with your imitation of a breathy sort of 'Zen'-esque pronouncement, except for the fact that I know the difference between an atheist and an agnostic.

Not even one (ONE) of us knows when the universe began, how it began, how large it is, how far it extends, or can prove who/what brought any of it into being. But we may agree that it is not just randomly-assorted blobs and globs of crap that have no organization, order, or functions. So, what the hell. "Your guess is as good as mine"...?

But the atheist says that there is NO way that any of this was created by anything or anyone. Surely, minds that close so tightly, this easily, must be very small to begin with....

 

Still got SQUAT to support your imaginary "creator"?

Same as always!

Rinse and repeat!

 

You persist with the theist fallacy that there had to be a "beginning" of the universe.

That fallacy erroneously presumes the existence of an imaginary "creator" which places you in the logical paradox of claiming that your imaginary "creator" has ALWAYS existed but the universe has not.

The actual evidence we have is of the existence of the universe and none whatsoever for your imaginary "creator".

So you are denying reality and substituting your illogical faith in an imaginary "creator" as an "explanation" for deriding atheists who are basing their position on the ACTUAL EVIDENCE we have all around us.

 

Invoked ignorance? Check.
Fine tuning invoked? Check
Closed minds accusation? Check.
All system go, proceed to poison everything with religion.

Application rejected.

 

The fact that there is no evidence of a "creator' yet the universe exists kind of shows that the universe doesn't need a creator.

 

yeh buh buh! Thats what I'm talkn bout!

black pot callin kettle black!

Hint: atheists have no evidence God does not exist, and lack of evidence is not evidence of lack. The hypocrisy is amazing. They dont care and have no shame.

 

sure, a dog could care less about who created a rubber ball, nor would he be able to comprehend it if he did know. What makes this situation any different? Oh look theres a ball, and another one, cool! No clue we created it.

 

I am an atheist, I lack belief.

 

Math is absurd to you? I thought that would be the case.