The government can kill you but can't make you buy insurance?

It took Stephen Colbert of all people to put it succinctly. It is an interesting dynamic once you think about it. Legally, in several states, the government can kill you if convicted of certain crimes. Surely that is a bigger intrusion into the lives of anybody, in terms of consequence, than making them buy health insurance. Agree or disagree?

 

haha the insanity grows and grows

 

Soo do you agree with the OP or no?

 

I think both ideas are crazy. Although the death penalty probably needs to be, I don't like it. The idea that the gov can force me to buy anything is crazy. Unless it is my product that they want everyone to buy. Just sayin.....

 

Both concepts are insane. The death penalty is as stupid as the idea of forcing people to buy anything from a for-profit company is corrupt.

 

I think this about sums it up here folks. Good job.

 

Not really the point. The point is that apparently the former is fine for a lot of people and not a second thought is had while the individual mandate (originally a GOP idea) is Socialism and an attempt by Comminazis to oppress you. It's all a bit ridiculous. Really I think the administration did themselves a disservice for arguing for it in a way that didn't make sense. The mandate acts as a tax. You are exempt from this new tax if you purchase health care.

 

Nope. Actions have consequences.

 

Such as not buying health insurance.

 

Well government has seen to it that that does not have consequences.

 

I thought Obama said it wasn't a tax.

You can dress it up anyway you want, but if you don't buy insurance you are being punished with a "tax". You either buy insurance or be punished, so much for that whole pro choice mantra, huh?

I guess you're cool with crony capitalism as well.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with not buying health insurance. The only wrong associated with it is when someone will not accept the personal responsibility and consequences of not buying health insurance. Eliminate welfare, and there will be more personal responsiblity show up rapidly. Would I let someone die if they couldn't afford healthcare? It is irrelevant, because I cannot afford to save them. What if it were me dying? I expect to die. I am not afraid. (I have health insurance at the present time, but haven't always been able to afford it)

 

Obama assassinated a U.S. citizen without due process. Certainly that offends you more than an execution after due process has been provided.

 

It is a tax no matter how he wants to phrase it. Now I've said from day 1 that a public option or single payer would be superior, but I don't get why people are apparently under the impression that the all-powerful government is out to get them on this.

Regarding the bolded, I have no idea what abortion has to do with anything.

 

That's a separate topic but yes I would agree.

 

So, women should free to abort babies, but shouldn't have a choice when it comes to purchasing or not purchasing health insurance?

Maybe you can't wrap your statist mind around the fact that allot of people feel that government has no right to stick their nose in our affairs concerning our personal decisions, like if we want to buy health insurance.


You never answered my question, why are ok with crony capitalism?

 

Why do you portray it as something that necessarily has to go together?

As long as I have to pay for somebody to get emergency care if they don't have insurance, it will always bee an issue for society and not just individuals.

No. Dumb question.

 

what right does the government have to force people to buy health insurance at gun point?

 

None I guess, seeing as how nobody from the government would show up at your door with a gun. I know it's a throwaway line, but you can't come up with anything that actuallly makes sense?

 

Exceptions have to be made for internationally syndicated terrorist leaders regardless of nationality. Capture was beyond possibility and just leaving him be merely because of his nationality is completely and totally assanine.

There is a grey area here why are you trying to be all fundamentalist and absolute?

 

The difference is mandated health insurance forces EVERYONE to buy insurance, where as people who were convicted of murder and/or warcrimes recieve capital punishment.

You have satire, and nothing more.

Which is part of the reason this country is so twisted up right now, people take comedians more seriously than anyone.

 

Nobody is forcing the death penalty upon everyone, and then punishing them for not allowing the government to merc them in case they decline compulsory execution. Most everyone who finds themselves on death row had a choice in the matter from the beginning. They could have refrained from decapitating a woman and then having intercourse with her throat hole... or whatever unspeakable crime that put them there.

In some cases, criminals just need to die. They've done the unspeakable and there is no longer any purpose for their miserable asses. Removing the death penalty would do nothing to affect the crime rate in a positive way. You'd probably see people taking the law in to their own hands if they thought justice would not be served. It'd be like Albania with their blood feuds.

 

Actually they would. How else would they enforce it?

 

I am skeptical of the sources that he was "an internationally syndicated terrorist leader". But, I think that comes from the CIA and we both know that they never lie about anything.

 

It highlights hypocrisy.

Sorry to break it to you, but you don't pay for everyone who doesn't have health insurance. Your assertion that everyone who doesn't have healthcare leaves it to you to foot the bill is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

No, it's not a dumb question, and yes you do apparently support crony capitalism. Sorry, but you using legislation to force people to by a product from a private company is crony capitalism.