The Greatest Murder Machine in History

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  1. longknife

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    [I tried to clear this before posting so I can't be accused of trolling :roll:]

    Hitler and the Holocaust? Piker. :roll:

    Stalin and the massacre of millions? Also ran. :roll:

    When one reads the various links proving the thread heading, there is no way to refute this claim.

    80 million slaughtered in Indian alone.

    110 million African blacks

    1.25 million Christians on the Barbary Coast

    1.5 million Armenian Christians.

    Add this all up. The African victims. The Indian victims. The European victims. Add in the Armenian genocide. Then add in the lesser known, but no doubt quite large number of victims of Eastern Asia. Add in the jihad committed by Muslims against China, which was invaded in 651 AD. Add in the Crimean Khanate predations on the Slavs, especially their women.

    250 million as a low guess. And this does not include the estimated 125 million women TODAY who have been genitally mutilated for the sake of “honor.”

    And there are those who will instantly claim that Christianity is a cruel religion responsible for many deaths. Well, how about proving it? Give us some numbers?

    Anyhow, read this article with links and FACTS @ http://americanthinker.com/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html
     
  2. dairyair

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    Nothing compares in percentages to the great flood. Only 8 humans and animals on an ark survived.
     
  3. Gorn Captain

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    The God of the Old Testament....beats 'em all.

    From the Flood to the first born of Egypt to the Amalekites (including children and babies).


    BTW, longknife...if there were a Holocaust for American Muslims....an Auschwitz in Arizona? or a Dachau in the Dakotas?.....you'd be personally packing them on the boxcars
     
  4. longknife

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    Don't you bother to READ the OP?

    The FACTS are clear. All your attempts to divert simply cannot obscure what is historically correct.

    Can you REFUTE just one of the claims in the OP? :steamed:
     
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    LOL

    You confuse Crime and Punishment with Murder.

    Theocracies do punish Law Breakers the same way a Democracy or a Dictator or a King does, when Laws are broken.

    Theocracies punish people who revolt by starting a new religion, or refusing to obey the Laws of the present Theocracy.
    This what Kings do.
    This what democratic America did to the Rosenbergers, too.

    These are NOT crimes against people nor murder.
    They are simply Law Enforcement.

    You are bias because you love Democracy and hate Theocracies,... and probably Dictatorships, too.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yep, yep, yep...

    God kills us all.

    And the Reality is that every species MUST adapt to the Reality which continues to unfold, or become an extinct species,... a second "death."
     
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    Let's pretend everything in the OP is correct and accurate. So what? What should be done about this violent religion that should not also be done regarding all of the violent religions (including Christianity)?

    I see a lot of topics complaining about Islam from people who either lack the brains or balls to posit a solution.
     
  8. For Topical Use Only

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    americanthinker?

    That's a website for the intellectually and spiritually stunted. Adored by those who hate Islam, of course. Lost on them is the fact they demonise Islam exactly as the Jews were demonised by the Nazis. Incuriously enough they tend to be the same people who let Israel off the hook for all of its misdeeds.
     
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    Death kills us, CD.....old age at the very least.

    But God KILLED DELIBERATELY or ordered the killing of 1000s...including babies and children.
     
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    I "played a trick" on an Islamophobe (like LK) once.

    I took a quote from a speech by Hitler....substituted "Islam" for "Judaism" ad "Muslims" for "Jews"....left everything else in ti, including Der Furhrer's not-so-veiled threats of extermination. Did NOT tell the Islamophobe WHO said it....but asked him-

    "Do you agree with this sentiment?" He wholeheartedly did.

    For most of these guys, there is NO ONE MOLECULE of difference in their view of Muslims.....and a 1930s Nazi's view of Jews.

    Notice? longknife didn't even get mad or deny what I said to him about how he'd happily load up the boxcars for the death camps, if they were American Muslims. (Not even foregin Muslims...I specifically said American Muslims)
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Wow talking about science then not providing any. So everyone of those people was murdered, according to you, simply because they were not Muslims? Casper says BS!
     
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    Yet when the holocaust is mentioned they'll all spout variations of "it must never happen again!"

    Edited due to duplicate.
     
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    Ahhh! So now you are claiming that the 'Bible' and its story of the flood is a true historical fact? Splendid. So much for your former comments on how that story is not 'true'.

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    Ahhh! So now you are also claiming that the 'Bible' and its story of the flood is a true historical fact? Splendid. So much for your former comments on how that story is not 'true'.
     
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    Unless it's a Holocaust for Muslims.....out of "self-defense" of course, of course. :(

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    If longknife is an atheist or even a theist who doesn't believe in the Bible....I'll drop that line of argument, Incorp.

    But...kinda betting he considers himself a "Bible-believing" "Christian". Just a hunch. :)
     
  15. Incorporeal

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    Positing a suggested solution is not the real problem. The real problem is getting ALL the people to agree with any one suggested solution.
     
  16. Incorporeal

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    And still another admission that the stories of the 'Bible' are true historical facts. I am loving this thread.
     
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    He hasn't even denied the God he follows nearly wiped out the entire earth according to his belief's.
     
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    So discussing a book means one thinks it is historical? Or did you typo and mean hysterical?
    Debating jaws would mean one thinks jaws is/was real?
     
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    God is sinless perfection so therefore he can not do anything wrong.

    So logically anything his followers does is not a cruel and is not a crime because they are only doing God's will.

    After all, God is might, and is justice, so we must all obey his will.
     
  20. Incorporeal

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    "jaws" are real... I have two of them. A maxilla and a mandible. When you are using that book in context to a discussion regarding 'historical fact', then without a disclaimer, the input regarding that book is reasonably taken to be another 'historical fact'.
     
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    It's an irony....that rightwing Christians would slaughter 1000s, 100,000s, millions of Muslims assured in the knowledge that they were "doing God's work"....

    all the while claiming that the people THEY killed were "religious fanatics bent on mass murder"

    An irony of course...they would never see.

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    BTW, Incorp won't give his opinion of longknife's OP.....just your responses to it. :)
     
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    You do understand that the "slaughter" that happened by Christians during the Crusades were the result of a reaction to Muslim aggression, don't you?

    I don't understand why people ignore that in order to vilify Christianity.

    The Crusades and the Middle Ages were a time of everybody doing atrocities to each other. Contrary to popular belief, it wasn't just one group doing it to another.
     
  23. Incorporeal

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    Not all rightwing Christians involve themselves in such conduct; Therefore, your generalization regarding what "rightwing Christians" do amounts to one of those 'logical fallacies' that are so adored by the non-theists on this forum ... Sweeping generalization.

    BTW: I am not obligated to offer an opinion on any specific post on this forum...Shame on you.
     
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    It not based on scientific facts, so much for the false premise of this thread.
     
  25. Incorporeal

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    Who said anything about 'scientific fact"? Are you wanting to change the goal posts?
     

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