The only reason to load a mag in public is if you are actively shooting in self defense and reloading. In that case, yes, you keep the firearm pointed at the threat. You always train exactly like you would perform in a self defense situation. That’s the point. Someone drawing, reholstering, loading a mag etc. like that in public without being in an active self defense situation is a moron and would be breaking the law in most states. As far as where the gun was pointed we agree. I’ve re-read all our posts and misunderstood the initial post of yours I responded to. That is my error for which you have my formal apology. The trainee did everything correctly, the trainer either didn’t see what we saw from our angle or he lied. I see now that was your point.
It takes a bit of effort to fire a double action revolver with the hammer in the down position so, since we don't have children around, I keep any revolver I may need in a hurry fully loaded. My bedside firearm and carry gun is a HK45 which is double action on the first shot and single action from then until the 10 round magazine is empty. I keep a round in the chamber and the hammer down because it takes a bit of effort to pull the trigger for the first shot. As you said: "...the time it takes to load a round in to say a 9MM could be the defining moment you fail to beat your attackers advance.." The only guns I've heard of that "just go off" are Chinese made SKS rifles that sometimes fire when you're chambering the first round. I also had an M1A that would occasionally fire 2 or 3 rounds with a single trigger pull during the break in period. It doesn't do that any more and otherwise, my guns are very well behaved.
Sorry, I dont believe machines have a mind of their own and do random things without human input, enjoy your make believe.
Nice anecdote. How about some data: Now for my anecdote. The couple living at this home would be dead if not for the guns they owned.
In fact, Cook told The Washington Post that the percentage of people who told Kleck they used a gun in self-defense is similar to the percentage of Americans who said they were abducted by aliens. The Post notes that "a more reasonable estimate" of self-defense gun uses equals about 100,000 annually, according to the NCVS data. https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense
Go tell it to the CDC. I have provided a link for you. I am sure that you know more than the people whose job it is to collect this data. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/fastfact.html
Gee, I bet people with an agenda dont have a tendacy to find what "facts" they want to find. Any word on how many just use the threat of a gun or point or flash and never fire it to stop a crime in progress and then choose not to involve the police as the situation is now resolved without the hassle that comes of calling the police? I myself once did just that but as it's anecdotal, I shall not waste time in the retelling of the details. I'm sure I'm far from the only one, too.
Look man, I got to get ready to load a trailer and head to the dump, did you have some point here? Let's assume you are correct.....what the hell do computers and firearms remotely have in common?
Many people claim to have been abducted by aliens too. While gun owners entertain self defense fantasies instilled in them by the gun lobby the dirty little secret the NRA doesn't want to talk about is people who own guns are more, not less, likely to be involved in gun violence.
You "forgot" to answer my question. Knowing what a hassle it would be, would YOU call the law if there was no longer a need? Face the facts, nothing stops a violent scumbag quite like staring at the wrong end of a gun. Only a naive fool would deny that.
Easy. The thread is about "responsible" gun owners blaming the gun "it just went off by itself" instead of accepting responsibility. Even in the video on page one we have a trainer blame the gun instead of the shooter.