The House IT Scandal

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

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    The money quote.
    He implied he’s a Democrat but said when it comes to national security “political ideology doesn’t matter.”
     
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    Translation....It's all been hushed up and shuffled under the rug as what always happens when dealing with the Democratic Crime Syndicate under mob bosses Hillary and Bill Clinton.
     
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    As usual agree 100%
     
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    Seriously, do you even look at the news at all...well other than fake MSNBC, CNN, and others the like? If you did, you would know so many on the left have been involved in corrupt activities which has caused not only some to get fired such as Comey and McCabe, but others have had to be reassigned or have resigned as in the case of Lisa Page and Baker recently.

    If you were being objective and paying attention, you would wonder why RINO mueller, RINO Rosenstein, and RINO Jeff Sessions are only interested in finding some kind of dirt on Trump for the purpose of unseating a duly elected president the people voted into office. They're looking for anything to impeach him even after having to acknowledge there was no Russia collusion. So now they aren't investigating a crime, but rather investigating a person with hopes of finding something on him. And the fact that it happens to be the president, isn't slowing them down at all in that endeavor but rather making them even more rabid.
    And all for the purpose of impeachment using Gestapo tactics that have never been seen or used before on anyone going way beyond the law hence the reason Judge TS Ellis called Mueller's team on it. And all this while not caring at all about all the criminality of the left which is far more evident, criminal, and downright treasonous.

    Whether you like Trump or hate him, you should be appalled at what this team is doing and the serious overreach which they feel entitled to. Being allowed to resort to these unfettered tactics sends a clear message and sets a precedent for all future actions meaning the U.S. is no longer a nation of laws that protects people's rights to due process. Like German Gestapo they terrorized Manafort's family in the night and raided Cohen's office totally disregarding attorney/client privileges. Remember this if ever you need to talk to an attorney. Better not be straight with the guy and let him write anything on his note pad because if ever raided like these incidents, the GOVERNMENT will be able to get the goods on you to do what they wish. The fact the democrats are also being investigated for spying on Americans and lied to FISA court judges not once but at least 3 times to gain warrants should tell you where all of this is going. Talk about big brother crap.

    If this is allowed to stand, when visiting a lawyer in the future, everyone will have to lie and hope the guy can help even though the client wasn't completely truthful. All humans make mistakes. It could be just the fact you didn't claim something on your taxes. Very few humans are 100% truthful or law abiding ALL the time.

    If Mueller's team was investigated and Gestapo tactics were used, such as what's happening with Trump, and all of THEIR files were confiscated, GUARANTEED they would have some serious explaining before a grand jury as well. So basically, no matter what your party affiliation, this really is a case that fits the cliché "Be careful what you wish for."
     
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    Good summary, K Johnson. You are more civil than some like myself. I am as cynical as I could be at this stage. The only people here who even care about comments such as yours concerning nefarious undercover tactics to gain power or destroy the enemy ---- are the moderators looking to censor. Those on the left are programmed not to notice.

    That lesson is fine, and true. But the larger issues dwarf that admonition. The larger issues include the fact this nation is being run or manipulated by deep state nefarious forces. Forces or power brokers that have complete control of democrat initiatives, mainstream media reporting and/or covering up of scandals, pushing immoral and politically correct messages upon the ambiguous masses, and so on. That is the greater concern.

    Yes, the blatant obvious manner in which these elements get away with murder and no one seems to care --- that is just mind blowing.
     
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    Yeah I don't think liberal supporters in forums realize what it means to back Mueller's team to the point they think he should have a free reign to pull Gestapo tactics, lie to FISA court judges, and Spy on Americans. No doubt they hate Trump and therefore, they think anything should be on the table to get him out but they better think twice hence the reason I said, "Be careful what you wish for."

    They need to realize whenever something like this is allowed, it sets a new precedent. Now because of what Mueller and his team is getting away with, in the future the following scenario will be okay as well. I tried to think up an analogy that everyone right or left could identify with;

    Let's say some construction worker put a roof on a neighbor's house on the weekends as a side job and was paid only $2000 of the agreed $5000. The neighbor didn't follow through paying the entire amount thinking the worker wouldn't dare say anything because if he does, he will have to admit he paid no taxes on it. Therefore, he no longer trusts going to a lawyer to force the guy to pay because lawyer client privileges are no more and his attorney could get raided by IRS causing him to go to jail for tax evasion. This is only a scenario and probably has holes but I was trying to show that this type of thing could happen to anyone. Even someone who pays his fair share of taxes on his job during the week but feels what he does on his off time should not be taxed..
     
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    You are entitled to your erroneous partisan beliefs even though you cannot substantiate them with anything factual and/or credible.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point with your partisan rant.
     
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    Was working on something earlier so wasn't paying close attention. Just reread your post and I think what you're referring to is that the slime on the left are not at the top of the chain of command but take orders from others that are trying to destroy or take over the U.S. and you're right. What was going on during the Obama administration was from all appearances was coming from the Middle East. But I see many different vying for control. George Soros of course with his open border BS, Obama was working for some faction in the Middle East hence the reason everything he did helped them while hurting the U.S. Guessing it was Iran since he sent a planeload of cash to them in that ridiculous nuclear deal. Also why he bowed to the Saudi King and finally admitted to being a Muslim after lying and saying he was a Christian. How he worked hard to divide the nation on several fronts.Anyway while he worked on that, Hillary and her crew were not only COLLUDING with RUSSIA and also had the Pakistani IT connection as well.
    Partisan? I said in the so called "rant" that ALL people no matter what their party affiliation, should be concerned about how Mueller is going outside the law. How is that partisan? And in this post if you and others don't acknowledge and recognize the fact with all that's happened, there are probably other players involved from other countries, you won't even see it coming when it all goes down. Now go stick your head back in the sand.
     
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    Puerile ad hom duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.

    That you cannot recognize your own partisanship is glaringly obvious.

    There is no credible evidence that Mueller has "gone outside the law".
     
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    That Abid Awan — one of the three brothers who the House Inspector General found made “unauthorized access” to congressional servers before the election?

    You think they can use a deposition in an unrelated civil case to ask a witness to reveal what she told FBI agents, to ascertain if they asked about “radical Islamic activities,” and inquire about a grand jury?

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/16/awan-witness-radical-islam/
     
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    The depths of their corruption remain unplumbed.

    Florida Judge Finds Ballots Were Illegally Destroyed in Wasserman-Schultz House Race

    What a pile of crooks. Dirty Debbie was running the DNC while they were rigging the primaries to steal the nomination from Bernie. She then turned it over to Dirty Donna Brazile they tried to cheat Trump, but he WHIPPED THEIR ASSES@!
     
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    yeah you're right..IG, Nunes, Jim Jordan, Gowdy, Mark Meadows, and rest are only beginning to unravel their corruption which runs very deep and goes all the way up the chain of command involving Obama and the Clinton's...it's like a complete crime syndicate
     
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    Let’s just reflect for a moment (with the help of Mollie Hemingway at The Federalist) on the damning revelations in this 4,000-plus article which paint a picture of an Obama White House meddling in a presidential election at a level that would make Vladimir Putin green with envy:

    “The story says the FBI was worried that if it came out they were spying on Trump campaign it would “only reinforce his claims that the election was being rigged against him.” It is easy to understand how learning that the FBI was spying on one’s presidential campaign might reinforce claims of election-rigging.”

    “Now we learn that it wasn’t just Page, but that the government was going after four campaign affiliates including the former campaign manager, the top foreign policy advisor, and a low-level advisor whose drunken claim supposedly launched the investigation into the campaign. The bureau says Trump’s top foreign policy advisor and future national security advisor — a published critic of Russia — was surveiled because he spoke at an event in Russia sponsored by Russia Today, a government-sponsored media outlet.”

    “The surveillance didn’t just include wiretaps, but also national security letters and at least one government informant to spy on the campaign”

    Why wouldn’t the New York Times ask that of their plugged-in, exclusive, anonymous sources? It seems like the most important question in this entire episode, wouldn’t you think? Since Sen. Howard Baker uttered the question in the height of the Watergate hearings in the early 1970s we’ve been told that this was the most fundamental question when breaking down a presidential scandal. Yet the word “Obama” only appears once in the Times article and is only used to reference the president for appointing Sally Yates as Deputy Attorney General.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...-did-he-know-and-when-did-he-know-it-n2482145
     
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    It's almost like they brought in MuellerCo for this fake investigation to give fake news media a plausible reason to ignore the runaway corruption and collusion perpetrated by ObamaCo, the DNC, the Hillary campaign, etc.
     
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    Desperately trying to move the goalposts does NOT alter the FACTS that I provided DEBUNKING your fallacious allegation.
     
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    Wrong!

    ZERO evidence of any "fraud" since all of the ballots have been preserved in DIGITAL form.

    Snipes is only guilty of a destroying the originals 10 months earlier than specified which is nothing more than a technicality given that the DIGITAL images still exist.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Ballots Were Illegally Destroyed In Debbie Wasserman Schultz House Race.

    Broward County Supervisor of Elections Office violated state and federal law Friday, after the office destroyed ballots from a 2016 House race for Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s seat.

    The elections office may also be on the hook for $200,000 in attorneys fees for Tim Canova, who brought a lawsuit against them after he lost to Wasserman Schultz in 2016, the Sun Sentinel reported. Canova lost by a final tally of 28,809 to 21,907 in a Democratic primary.

    Canova requested a closer look at the paper ballots from the race to check for anomalies in March 2017, but Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes did not respond to his requests so he took her to court, according to the Sun Sentinel. Snipes signed off on the illegal destruction of the ballots, 6 MONTHS AFTER THE REQUEST, in September 2017.

    Same crowd that was fixing debates and primaries for crooked Hillary.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/17/b...royed-in-debbie-wasserman-schultz-house-race/
     
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    Bacon asked the witness — the Awans’ stepmother, Samina Gilani — who from Capitol Hill was gathering information about the alleged hack on Congress, like it's any of his damn business, according to a transcript of the deposition, which was conducted in Bacon’s office.

    The deposition was given as part of a different matter entirely, a lawsuit regarding the Awans’ deceased father’s $50,000 life insurance policy.

    Gilani testified that the oldest Awan brother, Imran, was illegally wiretapping her.

    “He has connected my phone, my house phone, with his own phone,” she said. “Whenever I talked to someone in Pakistan, he told me later on that you told this, you said this.”

    The FBI has been investigating Imran Awan, his wife, Hina Alvi, and his two brothers, Abid and Jamal — all of whom were employed as server administrators for Democrats — the brothers were suspected of theft of House equipment and wrongfully accessing congressional servers. The Awans could read all the emails and files of 20% of all House Democrats.

    Imran and Alvi were indicted for bank fraud in August 2017, but more serious charges connected to potential cyber crimes haven’t been issued. Witnesses have said Imran has tried coercing them.

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz kept him on the taxpayers payroll long after these crimes had come to light, suggesting to some that she was deeply compromised and being blackmailed.

    Imran and his wife embezzled $283,000 from The House Bank and wired it to Pakistan on January 18, 2017. The transfer was listed in a criminal complaint by the government after Imran was arrested at the airport attempting to illegally flee to Pakistan. The Awans’ father died two days earlier, on January 16. On January 17, Abid submitted notarized paperwork requesting to remove Gilani as the beneficiary of his father’s $50,000 life insurance policy and replaced her with himself. That led to a civil court dispute in Fairfax County, Virginia.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/16/awan-witness-radical-islam/
     

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